Ok, just to clear this up. I left YEC after i realised the ''days'' in Genesis 1 are not the time period God created, but the time period God revealed the creation to man. This means the days are still literal 24 hour periods but that this time was when Adam recieved the revelation about creation during the 6 days, about 6,000 years ago. What changed my mind? I noticed that God was giving personal names for what He had created i.e calling the light 'day'. Why would God do this, unless He is speaking directly to man? If we take the standard YEC position that God created the light before man, why is the light named before man? It becomes obvious from this perspective that the entire Genesis creation account is God revealing to man about the creation, but not the creation itself in the sense of the sequence of how it was done during six days. The six days though were as i said still literal 24 hours days as we know them, but rather than being the six days God created they were the sic days that God revealed to Adam about the creation. This happened about 6,000 years ago.This means as far as time, cosmology etc is concerned there are no problems for vast ages as having existed. However, Wiseman's view (the guy who developed the revelation theory about creation) is that we can not put a date for the age of the universe, earth etc. I therefore now hold nothing against YEC (Young Earth Creationism), OEC (Old Earth Creationism) or any other age theories. We don't have a time machine, so arguing over this is also pointless and i've wasted a lot of time on this issue when it isn't even relevant.Regarding the age and history of man, we are about 6,000 years old. Adam is dated 1656 years prior to the flood, and so we have an exact dating for him. Recorded history only began about 5,000 years ago and therefore there is no evidence man is anything older than a few thousand years old. I still believe evolution is a fairytale/hoax and always will do. Evolution is opposed by the Bible but also by science. Real science is what we can observe, test and repeat. Evolution has never been observed and cannot be tested.
Quote from: Cassiterides on November 01, 2010, 12:48:39 PMOk, just to clear this up. I left YEC after i realised the ''days'' in Genesis 1 are not the time period God created, but the time period God revealed the creation to man. This means the days are still literal 24 hour periods but that this time was when Adam recieved the revelation about creation during the 6 days, about 6,000 years ago. What changed my mind? I noticed that God was giving personal names for what He had created i.e calling the light 'day'. Why would God do this, unless He is speaking directly to man? If we take the standard YEC position that God created the light before man, why is the light named before man? It becomes obvious from this perspective that the entire Genesis creation account is God revealing to man about the creation, but not the creation itself in the sense of the sequence of how it was done during six days. The six days though were as i said still literal 24 hours days as we know them, but rather than being the six days God created they were the sic days that God revealed to Adam about the creation. This happened about 6,000 years ago.This means as far as time, cosmology etc is concerned there are no problems for vast ages as having existed. However, Wiseman's view (the guy who developed the revelation theory about creation) is that we can not put a date for the age of the universe, earth etc. I therefore now hold nothing against YEC (Young Earth Creationism), OEC (Old Earth Creationism) or any other age theories. We don't have a time machine, so arguing over this is also pointless and i've wasted a lot of time on this issue when it isn't even relevant.Regarding the age and history of man, we are about 6,000 years old. Adam is dated 1656 years prior to the flood, and so we have an exact dating for him. Recorded history only began about 5,000 years ago and therefore there is no evidence man is anything older than a few thousand years old. I still believe evolution is a fairytale/hoax and always will do. Evolution is opposed by the Bible but also by science. Real science is what we can observe, test and repeat. Evolution has never been observed and cannot be tested.Nope sorry, I don't get it. God was speaking directly to man when he dictated the book of Genesis so what other words could he have used to convey his meaning of the Creation which would have made it clearer that he made the world in 6 days, just prior to the creation of man? Why should God giving 'personal names' and speaking directly to man mean that the Universe may actually be ancient and not just 6000 years old? If you accept that Adam is the first man and that God created him 6000 years ago, and that was on the 6th day, then clearly the Earth is only 6000 years and six days old isn't it? Unless you are saying that the preceding 5 x 24 hour periods were not consecutive days but spaced apart by who knows how many years...? Sounds to me like to all intents and purposes you are still a YEC, but desperately trying to reconcile your beliefs with your belief in an ancient universe.