Quote from: zork on October 03, 2010, 09:45:02 AMQuote from: PizzaPlanet on October 03, 2010, 09:16:04 AMQuote from: markjo on October 03, 2010, 09:13:31 AMHumans are good at finding patterns in cause and effect, even when they don't necessarily exist.As well as baselessly refuting them when they exist, as mentioned above. So, what base you have for the dangers of moonlight? Haven't still seen anything except for your belief.Obvious coincidences and accidents, of course.
Quote from: PizzaPlanet on October 03, 2010, 09:16:04 AMQuote from: markjo on October 03, 2010, 09:13:31 AMHumans are good at finding patterns in cause and effect, even when they don't necessarily exist.As well as baselessly refuting them when they exist, as mentioned above. So, what base you have for the dangers of moonlight? Haven't still seen anything except for your belief.
Quote from: markjo on October 03, 2010, 09:13:31 AMHumans are good at finding patterns in cause and effect, even when they don't necessarily exist.As well as baselessly refuting them when they exist, as mentioned above.
Humans are good at finding patterns in cause and effect, even when they don't necessarily exist.
They happen even without the moonlight. And if you go out at the cold night with the moon and don't have sufficient clothing then the cold which you catch isn't because of the moonlight. There are hundreds of more things out there which can cause your problems.
In 2008, doctors at the Department of Clinical and Experimental Epilepsy, Institute of Neurology UCL concluded a 341 day study that linked epileptic seizures to moonlight. The doctors, in their blameless ignorance, erroneously attributed not only the light from the moon as being reflected off the sun (It's from moon-dwelling bioluminescent fungus/bacteria and sonoluminescent shrimp-like creatures, the latter of which are the primary cause of the deleterious effects), but also a correlation between the intensity of the light produced and seizures incurred; when they moved their patients out of the moonlight, the seizures dropped in frequency and duration.The obvious conclusion, overlooked by scientists locked in a rigid and credulous system geared to reinforcing their own ideas, is that the moon's rays are the direct cause of the observed seizures and not the extra, and notably negligible, addition of light by the moon in the night sky. If this were the case, the test subjects would succumbing to seizures anytime they passed a soft-glowing light bulb or streetlamp.Be warned, the moon's rays are proven to be harmful and everyone should avoid them at all costs.http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6WDT-4T1X2HG-1&_user=10&_coverDate=10%2F31%2F2008&_rdoc=1&_fmt=high&_orig=search&_origin=search&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view=c&_searchStrId=1480274888&_rerunOrigin=google&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=c3bbe0a5e8946f2eeb34000147e5a1ea&searchtype=a#implicit0
Quote from: Pongo on September 30, 2010, 10:52:15 AMIn 2008, doctors at the Department of Clinical and Experimental Epilepsy, Institute of Neurology UCL concluded a 341 day study that linked epileptic seizures to moonlight. The doctors, in their blameless ignorance, erroneously attributed not only the light from the moon as being reflected off the sun (It's from moon-dwelling bioluminescent fungus/bacteria and sonoluminescent shrimp-like creatures, the latter of which are the primary cause of the deleterious effects), but also a correlation between the intensity of the light produced and seizures incurred; when they moved their patients out of the moonlight, the seizures dropped in frequency and duration.The obvious conclusion, overlooked by scientists locked in a rigid and credulous system geared to reinforcing their own ideas, is that the moon's rays are the direct cause of the observed seizures and not the extra, and notably negligible, addition of light by the moon in the night sky. If this were the case, the test subjects would succumbing to seizures anytime they passed a soft-glowing light bulb or streetlamp.Be warned, the moon's rays are proven to be harmful and everyone should avoid them at all costs.http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6WDT-4T1X2HG-1&_user=10&_coverDate=10%2F31%2F2008&_rdoc=1&_fmt=high&_orig=search&_origin=search&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view=c&_searchStrId=1480274888&_rerunOrigin=google&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=c3bbe0a5e8946f2eeb34000147e5a1ea&searchtype=a#implicit0How do you know the siezures weren't caused by light in general, rather than specifically moonlight? Any kind of bright light has been known to induce siezures.
Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
It is just the way it is, you understanding it doesn't concern me.
Quote from: Hessy on October 04, 2010, 04:13:35 AMQuote from: Pongo on September 30, 2010, 10:52:15 AMIn 2008, doctors at the Department of Clinical and Experimental Epilepsy, Institute of Neurology UCL concluded a 341 day study that linked epileptic seizures to moonlight. The doctors, in their blameless ignorance, erroneously attributed not only the light from the moon as being reflected off the sun (It's from moon-dwelling bioluminescent fungus/bacteria and sonoluminescent shrimp-like creatures, the latter of which are the primary cause of the deleterious effects), but also a correlation between the intensity of the light produced and seizures incurred; when they moved their patients out of the moonlight, the seizures dropped in frequency and duration.The obvious conclusion, overlooked by scientists locked in a rigid and credulous system geared to reinforcing their own ideas, is that the moon's rays are the direct cause of the observed seizures and not the extra, and notably negligible, addition of light by the moon in the night sky. If this were the case, the test subjects would succumbing to seizures anytime they passed a soft-glowing light bulb or streetlamp.Be warned, the moon's rays are proven to be harmful and everyone should avoid them at all costs.http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6WDT-4T1X2HG-1&_user=10&_coverDate=10%2F31%2F2008&_rdoc=1&_fmt=high&_orig=search&_origin=search&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view=c&_searchStrId=1480274888&_rerunOrigin=google&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=c3bbe0a5e8946f2eeb34000147e5a1ea&searchtype=a#implicit0How do you know the siezures weren't caused by light in general, rather than specifically moonlight? Any kind of bright light has been known to induce siezures.I like how the OP fails to mention in his warning that those in the study already have seizure disorder (epilepsy) and were already prone to seizures. Perhaps I'm reading too much into the warning, but it almost seems as if the OP is suggesting that moonlight can cause seizures in people who are not otherwise prone to them.
So, lights make people prone to epileptic seizures more likely to have a seizure. Got it, thanks, definitely didn't know that already.
Pro tip: your link is broken, Pongo.
Quote from: Hessy on December 17, 2010, 09:30:44 AMPro tip: your link is broken, Pongo.It's not my link, I do not own the web space where it resides... or once resided.
Funny coincidence, but I just spent the last four months sleeping under the stars (and frequently moonlight) and I experienced no ill effects. Then I come back and see this thread is still going....
Only one thing can save our future. Give Thork a BanHammer for Th*rksakes!
Quote from: EireEngineer on March 23, 2011, 08:19:24 PMFunny coincidence, but I just spent the last four months sleeping under the stars (and frequently moonlight) and I experienced no ill effects. Then I come back and see this thread is still going.... Funny coincidence, but friends of mine have been smoking for some years and they're all healthy. Then I read the carton and it says that cigarettes kill.....
Particle Person for FES!
It's a lump of rock that on which shrimp live that produce light.That is all.
Quote from: global6 on March 24, 2011, 07:59:58 PMIt's a lump of rock that on which shrimp live that produce light.That is all.Fix'd that for you. Common mistake!
What is this, you can't just go posting pictures of moonshrimp. It's dangerous. Luckily I was wearing shades when I opened this page.Please mods, remove the images to prevent unsuspecting victims.
Quote from: EnglshGentleman on March 24, 2011, 08:58:52 PMQuote from: global6 on March 24, 2011, 07:59:58 PMhttp://www.moonwallpapers.net/media/cache/1/1/150x150-1-1-7-11703-moon.jpgIt's a lump of rock that on which shrimp live that produce light.That is all.Fix'd that for you. Common mistake!I don't see any shrimp.
Quote from: global6 on March 24, 2011, 07:59:58 PMhttp://www.moonwallpapers.net/media/cache/1/1/150x150-1-1-7-11703-moon.jpgIt's a lump of rock that on which shrimp live that produce light.That is all.Fix'd that for you. Common mistake!
http://www.moonwallpapers.net/media/cache/1/1/150x150-1-1-7-11703-moon.jpgIt's a lump of rock that on which shrimp live that produce light.That is all.
Quote from: markjo on March 25, 2011, 06:45:43 AMQuote from: EnglshGentleman on March 24, 2011, 08:58:52 PMQuote from: global6 on March 24, 2011, 07:59:58 PMhttp://www.moonwallpapers.net/media/cache/1/1/150x150-1-1-7-11703-moon.jpgIt's a lump of rock that on which shrimp live that produce light.That is all.Fix'd that for you. Common mistake!I don't see any shrimp.But you do see the light from them!