PSA: Moonlight Causes Seizures: avoid at all costs

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Re: PSA: Moonlight Causes Seizures: avoid at all costs
« Reply #60 on: October 03, 2010, 11:41:56 AM »
Humans are good at finding patterns in cause and effect, even when they don't necessarily exist.
As well as baselessly refuting them when they exist, as mentioned above.
So, what base you have for the dangers of moonlight? Haven't still seen anything except for your belief.
Obvious coincidences and accidents, of course.
They happen even without the moonlight. And if you go out at the cold night with the moon and don't have sufficient clothing then the cold which you catch isn't because of the moonlight. There are hundreds of more things out there which can cause your problems.
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Re: PSA: Moonlight Causes Seizures: avoid at all costs
« Reply #61 on: October 03, 2010, 11:58:58 AM »
They happen even without the moonlight. And if you go out at the cold night with the moon and don't have sufficient clothing then the cold which you catch isn't because of the moonlight. There are hundreds of more things out there which can cause your problems.
I agree. This is why I said I can't conclusively prove anything here, and that I'm only talking about my beliefs. To me, it seems too convenient to be a coincidence. To you, it might not. I have nothing but non-conclusive observation and gut feeling to support my claim, and it'd be ridiculous for me to expect you to prove that it's not moonlight. I believe we'll just have to agree to disagree.
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Re: PSA: Moonlight Causes Seizures: avoid at all costs
« Reply #62 on: October 04, 2010, 04:13:35 AM »
In 2008, doctors at the Department of Clinical and Experimental Epilepsy, Institute of Neurology UCL concluded a 341 day study that linked epileptic seizures to moonlight.  The doctors, in their blameless ignorance, erroneously attributed not only the light from the moon as being reflected off the sun (It's from moon-dwelling bioluminescent fungus/bacteria and sonoluminescent shrimp-like creatures, the latter of which are the primary cause of the deleterious effects), but also a correlation between the intensity of the light produced and seizures incurred; when they moved their patients out of the moonlight, the seizures dropped in frequency and duration.

The obvious conclusion, overlooked by scientists locked in a rigid and credulous system geared to reinforcing their own ideas, is that the moon's rays are the direct cause of the observed seizures and not the extra, and notably negligible, addition of light by the moon in the night sky.  If this were the case, the test subjects would succumbing to seizures anytime they passed a soft-glowing light bulb or streetlamp.

Be warned, the moon's rays are proven to be harmful and everyone should avoid them at all costs.


http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6WDT-4T1X2HG-1&_user=10&_coverDate=10%2F31%2F2008&_rdoc=1&_fmt=high&_orig=search&_origin=search&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view=c&_searchStrId=1480274888&_rerunOrigin=google&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=c3bbe0a5e8946f2eeb34000147e5a1ea&searchtype=a#implicit0

How do you know the siezures weren't caused by light in general, rather than specifically moonlight?  Any kind of bright light has been known to induce siezures.

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Re: PSA: Moonlight Causes Seizures: avoid at all costs
« Reply #63 on: October 04, 2010, 06:25:14 AM »
In 2008, doctors at the Department of Clinical and Experimental Epilepsy, Institute of Neurology UCL concluded a 341 day study that linked epileptic seizures to moonlight.  The doctors, in their blameless ignorance, erroneously attributed not only the light from the moon as being reflected off the sun (It's from moon-dwelling bioluminescent fungus/bacteria and sonoluminescent shrimp-like creatures, the latter of which are the primary cause of the deleterious effects), but also a correlation between the intensity of the light produced and seizures incurred; when they moved their patients out of the moonlight, the seizures dropped in frequency and duration.

The obvious conclusion, overlooked by scientists locked in a rigid and credulous system geared to reinforcing their own ideas, is that the moon's rays are the direct cause of the observed seizures and not the extra, and notably negligible, addition of light by the moon in the night sky.  If this were the case, the test subjects would succumbing to seizures anytime they passed a soft-glowing light bulb or streetlamp.

Be warned, the moon's rays are proven to be harmful and everyone should avoid them at all costs.


http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6WDT-4T1X2HG-1&_user=10&_coverDate=10%2F31%2F2008&_rdoc=1&_fmt=high&_orig=search&_origin=search&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view=c&_searchStrId=1480274888&_rerunOrigin=google&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=c3bbe0a5e8946f2eeb34000147e5a1ea&searchtype=a#implicit0

How do you know the siezures weren't caused by light in general, rather than specifically moonlight?  Any kind of bright light has been known to induce siezures.

I like how the OP fails to mention in his warning that those in the study already have seizure disorder (epilepsy) and were already prone to seizures.  Perhaps I'm reading too much into the warning, but it almost seems as if the OP is suggesting that moonlight can cause seizures in people who are not otherwise prone to them. 
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Re: PSA: Moonlight Causes Seizures: avoid at all costs
« Reply #64 on: October 04, 2010, 08:26:10 AM »
In 2008, doctors at the Department of Clinical and Experimental Epilepsy, Institute of Neurology UCL concluded a 341 day study that linked epileptic seizures to moonlight.  The doctors, in their blameless ignorance, erroneously attributed not only the light from the moon as being reflected off the sun (It's from moon-dwelling bioluminescent fungus/bacteria and sonoluminescent shrimp-like creatures, the latter of which are the primary cause of the deleterious effects), but also a correlation between the intensity of the light produced and seizures incurred; when they moved their patients out of the moonlight, the seizures dropped in frequency and duration.

The obvious conclusion, overlooked by scientists locked in a rigid and credulous system geared to reinforcing their own ideas, is that the moon's rays are the direct cause of the observed seizures and not the extra, and notably negligible, addition of light by the moon in the night sky.  If this were the case, the test subjects would succumbing to seizures anytime they passed a soft-glowing light bulb or streetlamp.

Be warned, the moon's rays are proven to be harmful and everyone should avoid them at all costs.


http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6WDT-4T1X2HG-1&_user=10&_coverDate=10%2F31%2F2008&_rdoc=1&_fmt=high&_orig=search&_origin=search&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view=c&_searchStrId=1480274888&_rerunOrigin=google&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=c3bbe0a5e8946f2eeb34000147e5a1ea&searchtype=a#implicit0

How do you know the siezures weren't caused by light in general, rather than specifically moonlight?  Any kind of bright light has been known to induce siezures.

I like how the OP fails to mention in his warning that those in the study already have seizure disorder (epilepsy) and were already prone to seizures.  Perhaps I'm reading too much into the warning, but it almost seems as if the OP is suggesting that moonlight can cause seizures in people who are not otherwise prone to them. 

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Re: PSA: Moonlight Causes Seizures: avoid at all costs
« Reply #65 on: December 17, 2010, 09:30:44 AM »
Pro tip: your link is broken, Pongo.

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Re: PSA: Moonlight Causes Seizures: avoid at all costs
« Reply #66 on: December 17, 2010, 02:11:34 PM »
So, lights make people prone to epileptic seizures more likely to have a seizure.  Got it, thanks, definitely didn't know that already.
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Re: PSA: Moonlight Causes Seizures: avoid at all costs
« Reply #67 on: December 17, 2010, 03:52:46 PM »
So, lights make people prone to epileptic seizures more likely to have a seizure.  Got it, thanks, definitely didn't know that already.

Groundbreaking stuff right here

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Re: PSA: Moonlight Causes Seizures: avoid at all costs
« Reply #68 on: December 18, 2010, 03:48:53 AM »
Pro tip: your link is broken, Pongo.

It's not my link, I do not own the web space where it resides... or once resided.

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Re: PSA: Moonlight Causes Seizures: avoid at all costs
« Reply #69 on: December 18, 2010, 07:05:56 AM »
Pro tip: your link is broken, Pongo.

It's not my link, I do not own the web space where it resides... or once resided.

But you did provide the link.
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Re: PSA: Moonlight Causes Seizures: avoid at all costs
« Reply #70 on: December 20, 2010, 04:16:31 AM »
Pro tip: your link is broken, Pongo.

It's not my link, I do not own the web space where it resides... or once resided.

I'd just like you to find your source again.  I wanted to see it again to make fun of/disprove it.

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Re: PSA: Moonlight Causes Seizures: avoid at all costs
« Reply #71 on: March 23, 2011, 08:19:24 PM »
Funny coincidence, but I just spent the last four months sleeping under the stars (and frequently moonlight) and I experienced no ill effects. Then I come back and see this thread is still going.... ;D
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Re: PSA: Moonlight Causes Seizures: avoid at all costs
« Reply #72 on: March 23, 2011, 11:01:33 PM »
Funny coincidence, but I just spent the last four months sleeping under the stars (and frequently moonlight) and I experienced no ill effects. Then I come back and see this thread is still going.... ;D

Funny coincidence, but friends of mine have been smoking for some years and they're all healthy. Then I read the carton and it says that cigarettes kill..... ;D
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Re: PSA: Moonlight Causes Seizures: avoid at all costs
« Reply #73 on: March 23, 2011, 11:05:34 PM »
Funny coincidence, but I just spent the last four months sleeping under the stars (and frequently moonlight) and I experienced no ill effects. Then I come back and see this thread is still going.... ;D

Funny coincidence, but friends of mine have been smoking for some years and they're all healthy. Then I read the carton and it says that cigarettes kill..... ;D

The ill effects that some here are claiming to be caused by the moon are more immediate and noticeable than the side effects of smoking.

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Re: PSA: Moonlight Causes Seizures: avoid at all costs
« Reply #74 on: March 24, 2011, 05:33:48 AM »
Funny coincidence, but I just spent the last four months sleeping under the stars (and frequently moonlight) and I experienced no ill effects. Then I come back and see this thread is still going.... ;D

Funny coincidence, but friends of mine have been smoking for some years and they're all healthy. Then I read the carton and it says that cigarettes kill..... ;D

Considering he hasn't experienced the dizziness and aching experienced within 24 hours nor the grossly exaggerated effects described by Rowboat/James. . .

Re: PSA: Moonlight Causes Seizures: avoid at all costs
« Reply #75 on: March 24, 2011, 07:59:58 PM »


It's a lump of rock that reflects light.

That is all.

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Re: PSA: Moonlight Causes Seizures: avoid at all costs
« Reply #76 on: March 24, 2011, 08:58:52 PM »


It's a lump of rock that on which shrimp live that produce light.

That is all.

Fix'd that for you. Common mistake!

Re: PSA: Moonlight Causes Seizures: avoid at all costs
« Reply #77 on: March 24, 2011, 09:34:24 PM »


It's a lump of rock that on which shrimp live that produce light.

That is all.

Fix'd that for you. Common mistake!
how do the shrimp survive on the moon?

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Re: PSA: Moonlight Causes Seizures: avoid at all costs
« Reply #78 on: March 24, 2011, 11:47:34 PM »
What is this, you can't just go posting pictures of moonshrimp. It's dangerous. Luckily I was wearing shades when I opened this page.

Please mods, remove the images to prevent unsuspecting victims.
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« Reply #79 on: March 25, 2011, 12:26:11 AM »
What is this, you can't just go posting pictures of moonshrimp. It's dangerous. Luckily I was wearing shades when I opened this page.

Please mods, remove the images to prevent unsuspecting victims.


It's a picture, lol, overreacting much?

moon shrimp also taste delicious with fake cake.
the cake is a lie

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Re: PSA: Moonlight Causes Seizures: avoid at all costs
« Reply #80 on: March 25, 2011, 06:45:43 AM »


It's a lump of rock that on which shrimp live that produce light.

That is all.

Fix'd that for you. Common mistake!

I don't see any shrimp.
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Re: PSA: Moonlight Causes Seizures: avoid at all costs
« Reply #81 on: March 25, 2011, 09:03:23 AM »
http://www.moonwallpapers.net/media/cache/1/1/150x150-1-1-7-11703-moon.jpg

It's a lump of rock that on which shrimp live that produce light.

That is all.

Fix'd that for you. Common mistake!

I don't see any shrimp.

But you do see the light from them!

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Re: PSA: Moonlight Causes Seizures: avoid at all costs
« Reply #82 on: March 25, 2011, 09:15:46 AM »
http://www.moonwallpapers.net/media/cache/1/1/150x150-1-1-7-11703-moon.jpg

It's a lump of rock that on which shrimp live that produce light.

That is all.

Fix'd that for you. Common mistake!

I don't see any shrimp.

But you do see the light from them!

No, I see light that is reflected off the dusty dry surface of the moon that is merely a reflection of the sun's light as it travels the globular earth ... I don't see any shrimp at all.

Note: (I'm really tired of trying to keep an open mind on this...If some people are going to insist that the light originates from shrimp and that light is therefor proof of shrimp (circular argument), I'm just going back to RET and stubbornly sticking with that.)

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Re: PSA: Moonlight Causes Seizures: avoid at all costs
« Reply #83 on: March 25, 2011, 10:58:30 AM »
What is this, you can't just go posting pictures of moonshrimp. It's dangerous. Luckily I was wearing shades when I opened this page.

Please mods, remove the images to prevent unsuspecting victims.

Thank you dearly. I agree as well. Pictures of the moon should be banned. Moonshrimplight itself is harmful, who knows what the effects of looking at a picture of it could do to you!

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Re: PSA: Moonlight Causes Seizures: avoid at all costs
« Reply #84 on: March 25, 2011, 11:29:01 AM »
Unless the moon shrimp live under the surface, and the surface is see-through, I don't think if the entire moon was covered in shrimp, and the shrimp was the only source of light on the moon, that you would be able to see the surface at all.

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Re: PSA: Moonlight Causes Seizures: avoid at all costs
« Reply #85 on: March 25, 2011, 07:05:37 PM »
Post a pic 100 times again and you'll be banned.
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