The actual problem with this conspiracy theory

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The actual problem with this conspiracy theory
« on: August 24, 2010, 10:10:43 AM »
The problem with this theory is that it can't have contradictory evidence.

It's not that there isn't contradictory evidence to this theory, it's just that the bottom line is that there is no possible evidence that could ever exist that WOULD disprove this theory, for anyone who believes it. For the die hards, if they were personally flown into space and looked at a round earth outside their space-shuttle window, they would still be able to come up with a reason that the earth was flat. Maybe the window was secretly a tv, or the round earth was a picture taped up over the outside, or they were dreaming.

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Re: The actual problem with this conspiracy theory
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2010, 01:14:36 PM »
The problem with this theory is that it can't have contradictory evidence.

It's not that there isn't contradictory evidence to this theory, it's just that the bottom line is that there is no possible evidence that could ever exist that WOULD disprove this theory, for anyone who believes it. For the die hards, if they were personally flown into space and looked at a round earth outside their space-shuttle window, they would still be able to come up with a reason that the earth was flat. Maybe the window was secretly a tv, or the round earth was a picture taped up over the outside, or they were dreaming.

Theistic fanatics Know the truth, they just can't handle the truth even when it is shown to them. They will make no such effort to even validate it, or even self scrutinize. However, there are like 2 or 3 die hard FE'rs here and they probably are only here for the LULZ as well. It's more of an internet circular gun fight. So I wouldn't worry too much ;)
« Last Edit: August 24, 2010, 06:21:07 PM by TheJackel »
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Re: The actual problem with this conspiracy theory
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2010, 03:37:18 PM »
The problem with this theory is that it can't have contradictory evidence.

It's not that there isn't contradictory evidence to this theory, it's just that the bottom line is that there is no possible evidence that could ever exist that WOULD disprove this theory, for anyone who believes it. For the die hards, if they were personally flown into space and looked at a round earth outside their space-shuttle window, they would still be able to come up with a reason that the earth was flat. Maybe the window was secretly a tv, or the round earth was a picture taped up over the outside, or they were dreaming.
I agree, there is no evidence that would disprove to most brainwashed theistic round earthers the globularist theories that are indoctrinated into our youth.
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Re: The actual problem with this conspiracy theory
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2010, 03:51:51 PM »
The problem with this theory is that it can't have contradictory evidence.

It's not that there isn't contradictory evidence to this theory, it's just that the bottom line is that there is no possible evidence that could ever exist that WOULD disprove this theory, for anyone who believes it. For the die hards, if they were personally flown into space and looked at a round earth outside their space-shuttle window, they would still be able to come up with a reason that the earth was flat. Maybe the window was secretly a tv, or the round earth was a picture taped up over the outside, or they were dreaming.
I agree, there is no evidence that would disprove to most brainwashed theistic round earthers the globularist theories that are indoctrinated into our youth.
You're quite right, but you don't go far enough. There is no evidence contrary to RET that would cause more than a moment's hesitation to any reasonable person, regardless of philosophy or religion. FET presents no evidence worthy of consideration. Reference, for example, the FEW's determination of the height of the Sun.
Keep it serious, Thork. You can troll, but don't be so open. We have standards

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Re: The actual problem with this conspiracy theory
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2010, 06:25:21 PM »
The problem with this theory is that it can't have contradictory evidence.

It's not that there isn't contradictory evidence to this theory, it's just that the bottom line is that there is no possible evidence that could ever exist that WOULD disprove this theory, for anyone who believes it. For the die hards, if they were personally flown into space and looked at a round earth outside their space-shuttle window, they would still be able to come up with a reason that the earth was flat. Maybe the window was secretly a tv, or the round earth was a picture taped up over the outside, or they were dreaming.
I agree, there is no evidence that would disprove to most brainwashed theistic round earthers the globularist theories that are indoctrinated into our youth.

Fail, RE has data and evidence to support. FE has nothing other than circular pissing contests. Please try again when you can actually support your position. Show the evidence, data, and work or shut your trap I say.

Ahh you can't do that because FE is faith based pseudoscience ;)
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Re: The actual problem with this conspiracy theory
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2010, 04:45:54 AM »
FE has nothing other than circular pissing contests. 

How do you know what I do at the weekend?

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Re: The actual problem with this conspiracy theory
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2010, 09:36:15 AM »
FE has nothing other than circular pissing contests. 

How do you know what I do at the weekend?

You should try not to advertise it ;)
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Re: The actual problem with this conspiracy theory
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2010, 12:25:01 PM »


Ahh you can't do that because FE is faith based pseudoscience ;)

Where did you get that idea?
I don't remember anything. Well, I do, but it's really vague. Like I was on drugs the whole time.

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Re: The actual problem with this conspiracy theory
« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2010, 12:53:28 PM »


Ahh you can't do that because FE is faith based pseudoscience ;)

Where did you get that idea?

No data to back up your scientific assertions = pseudoscience

Arguing from a position of phantom data does not grant you credibility, or anything other than tossing scientific terminology into a tossed salad wrapped within an ideological construct. Please try again.
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Re: The actual problem with this conspiracy theory
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2010, 01:39:21 PM »
The problem with this theory is that it can't have contradictory evidence.

It's not that there isn't contradictory evidence to this theory, it's just that the bottom line is that there is no possible evidence that could ever exist that WOULD disprove this theory, for anyone who believes it. For the die hards, if they were personally flown into space and looked at a round earth outside their space-shuttle window, they would still be able to come up with a reason that the earth was flat. Maybe the window was secretly a tv, or the round earth was a picture taped up over the outside, or they were dreaming.
I agree, there is no evidence that would disprove to most brainwashed theistic round earthers the globularist theories that are indoctrinated into our youth.
Oh it's very easy for me.
Give me a picture that shows the entire lit surface of the Flat Earth taken from a camera that went into space.  It really shouldn't be hard since amateurs can send pictures up all the time.  They should be able to see the entire lit area... right?
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Re: The actual problem with this conspiracy theory
« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2010, 03:52:32 PM »


Ahh you can't do that because FE is faith based pseudoscience ;)

Where did you get that idea?

No data to back up your scientific assertions = pseudoscience

Arguing from a position of phantom data does not grant you credibility, or anything other than tossing scientific terminology into a tossed salad wrapped within an ideological construct. Please try again.

There is data, you RE'rs just conveniently explain it way as pseudoscience. Talk about lack of falsifiableity... 
I don't remember anything. Well, I do, but it's really vague. Like I was on drugs the whole time.

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Re: The actual problem with this conspiracy theory
« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2010, 04:22:45 PM »


Ahh you can't do that because FE is faith based pseudoscience ;)

Where did you get that idea?

No data to back up your scientific assertions = pseudoscience

Arguing from a position of phantom data does not grant you credibility, or anything other than tossing scientific terminology into a tossed salad wrapped within an ideological construct. Please try again.

There is data, you RE'rs just conveniently explain it way as pseudoscience. Talk about lack of falsifiableity... 
Someone might actually believe your claim--if you backed it up with evidence. Nice word-creating, by the way.
Keep it serious, Thork. You can troll, but don't be so open. We have standards

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Re: The actual problem with this conspiracy theory
« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2010, 04:46:40 PM »


Ahh you can't do that because FE is faith based pseudoscience ;)

Where did you get that idea?

No data to back up your scientific assertions = pseudoscience

Arguing from a position of phantom data does not grant you credibility, or anything other than tossing scientific terminology into a tossed salad wrapped within an ideological construct. Please try again.

There is data, you RE'rs just conveniently explain it way as pseudoscience. Talk about lack of falsifiableity... 

Cough it up and stop making excuses for yourself.
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Anteater7171

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Re: The actual problem with this conspiracy theory
« Reply #13 on: August 25, 2010, 06:18:32 PM »
Cough it up and stop making excuses for yourself.

We have, many a time...

Nice word-creating, by the way.

Can't claim I invented it, falsifiability is an RE term.
I don't remember anything. Well, I do, but it's really vague. Like I was on drugs the whole time.

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TheJackel

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Re: The actual problem with this conspiracy theory
« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2010, 06:22:36 PM »
Cough it up and stop making excuses for yourself.

We have, many a time...

Nice word-creating, by the way.

Can't claim I invented it, falsifiability is an RE term.

Your Fallibility is your inability to substantiate your case, provide data, real world observation to which can be verified, or even remotely attempt to logically falsify RE. At this time, I can only conclude you are unable to comply. Thus this thread has come to a close, and so has your argument.
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Re: The actual problem with this conspiracy theory
« Reply #15 on: August 25, 2010, 06:43:19 PM »
Cough it up and stop making excuses for yourself.

We have, many a time...

Nice word-creating, by the way.

Can't claim I invented it, falsifiability is an RE term.

Your Fallibility is your inability to substantiate your case, provide data, real world observation to which can be verified, or even remotely attempt to logically falsify RE. At this time, I can only conclude you are unable to comply. Thus this thread has come to a close, and so has your argument.

No it hasn't.
I don't remember anything. Well, I do, but it's really vague. Like I was on drugs the whole time.

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Re: The actual problem with this conspiracy theory
« Reply #16 on: August 25, 2010, 06:46:38 PM »
Cough it up and stop making excuses for yourself.

We have, many a time...

Nice word-creating, by the way.

Can't claim I invented it, falsifiability is an RE term.

Your Fallibility is your inability to substantiate your case, provide data, real world observation to which can be verified, or even remotely attempt to logically falsify RE. At this time, I can only conclude you are unable to comply. Thus this thread has come to a close, and so has your argument.

No it hasn't.

Good, because your rationalilty in the previous posts have been correct and superior to the counter arguments.

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TheJackel

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Re: The actual problem with this conspiracy theory
« Reply #17 on: August 25, 2010, 07:43:38 PM »
Cough it up and stop making excuses for yourself.

We have, many a time...

Nice word-creating, by the way.

Can't claim I invented it, falsifiability is an RE term.

Your Fallibility is your inability to substantiate your case, provide data, real world observation to which can be verified, or even remotely attempt to logically falsify RE. At this time, I can only conclude you are unable to comply. Thus this thread has come to a close, and so has your argument.

No it hasn't.

Then please to get off your tuff and start complying.  8)
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Re: The actual problem with this conspiracy theory
« Reply #18 on: August 25, 2010, 08:30:22 PM »
I'm fairly confident that there isn't a single user who actually thinks the Earth is flat. But it's a fun place to chat about ridiculous stuff and make memes etc...

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Re: The actual problem with this conspiracy theory
« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2010, 08:55:25 PM »
I'm fairly confident that there isn't a single user who actually thinks the Earth is flat. But it's a fun place to chat about ridiculous stuff and make memes etc...

I dont believe u've read too much here then. many people here identify themselves as flat earthers.

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Re: The actual problem with this conspiracy theory
« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2010, 09:14:17 PM »
I'm fairly confident that there isn't a single user who actually thinks the Earth is flat. But it's a fun place to chat about ridiculous stuff and make memes etc...

You are incorrect. I'd estimate 3-4 users who are true believers.
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Re: The actual problem with this conspiracy theory
« Reply #21 on: August 25, 2010, 09:32:59 PM »
Nice word-creating, by the way.
Can't claim I invented it, falsifiability is an RE term.
Oh, I think you're confused in two ways, though dishonest might apply.
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There is data, you RE'rs just conveniently explain it way as pseudoscience. Talk about lack of falsifiableity... 
Oh, and it comes from all of Science, not just RET. Then again perhaps you're just admitting that FET isn't science.
Keep it serious, Thork. You can troll, but don't be so open. We have standards

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Re: The actual problem with this conspiracy theory
« Reply #22 on: August 25, 2010, 10:16:52 PM »
I don't think that anyone is under the illusion that Zeteticism is science.
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Re: The actual problem with this conspiracy theory
« Reply #23 on: August 25, 2010, 10:31:30 PM »
I'm fairly confident that there isn't a single user who actually thinks the Earth is flat. But it's a fun place to chat about ridiculous stuff and make memes etc...

I dont believe u've read too much here then. many people here identify themselves as flat earthers.

I lol'd when i read both their post counts

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Re: The actual problem with this conspiracy theory
« Reply #24 on: August 27, 2010, 10:42:10 AM »
I'm fairly confident that there isn't a single user who actually thinks the Earth is flat. But it's a fun place to chat about ridiculous stuff and make memes etc...

I dont believe u've read too much here then. many people here identify themselves as flat earthers.

I lol'd when i read both their post counts

whatre you talking about?

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Re: The actual problem with this conspiracy theory
« Reply #25 on: August 27, 2010, 09:43:52 PM »
I'm fairly confident that there isn't a single user who actually thinks the Earth is flat. But it's a fun place to chat about ridiculous stuff and make memes etc...

I dont believe u've read too much here then. many people here identify themselves as flat earthers.

I would say most are pretending ;) It's like a game of D&D here lol.
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Re: The actual problem with this conspiracy theory
« Reply #26 on: August 27, 2010, 09:58:12 PM »
I'm fairly confident that there isn't a single user who actually thinks the Earth is flat. But it's a fun place to chat about ridiculous stuff and make memes etc...

I dont believe u've read too much here then. many people here identify themselves as flat earthers.

I lol'd when i read both their post counts

whatre you talking about?

3804 posts vs. 241 posts.

I think Fortuna knows the people here better than you :P

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Re: The actual problem with this conspiracy theory
« Reply #27 on: August 31, 2010, 12:40:22 PM »
I'm fairly confident that there isn't a single user who actually thinks the Earth is flat. But it's a fun place to chat about ridiculous stuff and make memes etc...

I dont believe u've read too much here then. many people here identify themselves as flat earthers.
And many of them are not.  However, you are right; some of us are.
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Re: The actual problem with this conspiracy theory
« Reply #28 on: August 31, 2010, 01:15:29 PM »
I'm fairly confident that there isn't a single user who actually thinks the Earth is flat. But it's a fun place to chat about ridiculous stuff and make memes etc...

I dont believe u've read too much here then. many people here identify themselves as flat earthers.
And many of them are not.  However, you are right; some of us are.

You really should put in new labels like "Devil's Advocate" and "Pretender". 
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Re: The actual problem with this conspiracy theory
« Reply #29 on: September 23, 2010, 06:35:30 AM »
The problem with this theory is that it can't have contradictory evidence.

It's not that there isn't contradictory evidence to this theory, it's just that the bottom line is that there is no possible evidence that could ever exist that WOULD disprove this theory, for anyone who believes it. For the die hards, if they were personally flown into space and looked at a round earth outside their space-shuttle window, they would still be able to come up with a reason that the earth was flat. Maybe the window was secretly a tv, or the round earth was a picture taped up over the outside, or they were dreaming.
I agree, there is no evidence that would disprove to most brainwashed theistic round earthers the globularist theories that are indoctrinated into our youth.

Good thing there is no evidence then too.
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