# Flat Earth Map

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#### jimjojo

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##### Flat Earth Map
« on: July 25, 2010, 12:38:56 PM »
Can someone please post a flat earth map with a scale on it (miles or kilometers, don't care)

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#### TheJackel

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##### Re: Flat Earth Map
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2010, 01:43:19 PM »
Can someone please post a flat earth map with a scale on it (miles or kilometers, don't care)

This is the best you will ever get, and this in reference to their cartoon map.. If you are looking for a real map, they will never provide one LOL. There is a reason why their maps are cartoons and not actual atlases, or maps in exact detail, they don't want people knowing how ridiculous and laughable a 486 million sq mile planet is.  But for fun I will re-post the data here so we can make this the official FE map thread

A: No GPS coordinate would ever work on this map
B: Here we have severe warping of the continents
C: Distances between continents ridiculously increase as you get further out
D: No information or detail in terms of coordinates, or exact scale.
E: Boston is now facing completely away from Africa and Portugal. This is completely wrong according to GPS, or using the Sun to calculate my longitude and latitude.

So lets do some math based on the scale provided in this cartoon map being displayed here..

Your Faq states the following information:
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Circumference: 125,891 km (78,225 miles)
Diameter: 40,073 km (24,900 miles)

Firstly there is a small mathematical correction to make. A diameter of 40,073 Km is 24,900.2077 miles. When you take this and times it by 3.14(PI), you get the circumference of 78226.3095 miles. So let's move along here and get into more detail.

This map is 12x24 blocks, or 288 blocks all together.
Here we have a grid radius of 12 blocks starting at the north pole extending out to the edge of the Earth. These 12 blocks for sake of argument will all be equal in raidius (height). Here we take the diameter of 24,900.2077 and divide it by 24 blocks across the diameter to get 1,037.5086 miles in height for each block of the 24 blocks.

So each of the 24 blocks has a radius height of 1,037.5086 miles in height or length depending on how you look at it

The center Angle is 15 degrees with a radius of 12450.10385 going out to the circumference.

Segment Legend for FE map:

Number of Segments: 288 12x24

1) Segment 0 = What would be the North Pole

2)Segments 1-12 = 12 segment blocks extending out  from Segment 0 to to the Edge Circumference and ending with Segment 12

3)All segments are equal in Radius Length.. (R/12) = 1,037.5086, Or (D/24) = 1,037.5086

Diameter by segment:

0:           0 miles
1:      2,075.0173 miles
2:      4,150.0346 miles
3:      6,225.0519 miles
4:      8,300.0692 miles
5:    10,375.0865 miles
6:    12,450.1038 miles
7:    14,525.1211 miles
8:    16,600.1384 miles
9:    18,675.1557 miles
10:  20,750.1730 miles
11:  22,825.1903 miles
12:  24,900.2077 miles

per Block: 1,037.5086

Circumferences by segment distance from center:

0:         0.xxxx miles
1:     6,518.8591 miles
2:    13,037.7182 miles
3:    19,556.5773 miles
4:    26,075.4364 miles
5:    32,594.2955 miles
6:    39,113.1546 miles
7:    45,632.0137 miles
8:    52,150.8728 miles
9:    58,669.7319 miles
10:   65,188.5910 miles
11:   71,707.4501 miles
12:   78,226.3095 miles

The Area by segment distance from center:

0:                      0 miles
1:         3,381,686.3551 sq miles
2:       13,526,745.4206 sq miles
3:       30,435,177.1965 sq miles
4:       54,106,981.6827 sq miles
5:       84,542,158.8793 sq miles
6:     121,740,708.7862 sq miles
7:     165,702,631.4035 sq miles
8:     216,427,926.7311 sq miles
9:     273,916,594.7691 sq miles
10:   338,168,635.5174 sq miles
11:   409,184,048.9760 sq miles
12:   486,962,839.0564 sq miles

Total Area Comparison:

FE:
486,962,839.0564 sq miles

percent of Earth's ocean 70% - 340,873,987.33948 sq miles
percent of Earth's  land: 30% - 146,088,851.71692 sq miles

RE:
196,935,000 sq miles
percent of Earth's ocean 70% - 137,854,500 sq miles
percent of Earth's land: 30% -  59,080,500 sq miles

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We can also see that there is 12 by 24 blocks. So let's outline the area in square miles per segment (Block) by finding the values below:

Legend:

Diameter 24900.2077 miles
Circumference: 78226.3095 miles
total area: 486962839.0564 sq miles
center angle: 15 degrees
Segments: 288, 12hx24w
Sector Area: 20290118.294016666666666666666667 sq miles
Sector Sector Arch Legnth: 3,259.4296 miles
Sector Chord Length 3,250.1293 miles
Segment Area:  230,984.1378 sq miles

1:  1037.508654
2:  2075.017308
3:  3112.525962
4:  4150.034616
5:  5187.543270
6:  6225.051925
7:  7262.560579
8:  8300.069233
9:  9337.577887
10: 10375.08654
11: 11412.59519
12: 12450.10385

Segment Area Arc Lengths:(Miles)

1:  271.6191
2:  543.2383
3:  814.8574
4:  1,086.4765
5:  1,358.0957
6:  1,629.7148
7:  1,901.3339
8:  2,172.953
9:  2,444.5722
10: 2,716.1913
11: 2,987.8104
12: 3,259.4296

Segment Area Chord lengths: (Miles)

1:      270.8441
2:      541.6882
3:      812.5323
4:   1,083.3764
5:   1,354.2205
6:   1,625.0646
7:   1,895.9088
8:   2,166.7529
9:   2,437.5970
10: 2,716.1913
11: 2,979.2852
12: 3,250.1293

Segment Areas:

1:  1,604.0565
2:  6,416.226
3:  14,436.5086
4:  25,664.9042
5:  40,101.4128
6:  57,746.0345
7:  78,598.7691
8:  102,659.6168
9:  129,928.5775
10: 160,405.6512
11: 194,090.8378
12: 230,984.1378

Total Area Per Segment Block on the Map: (sq miles)

1:      140,903.59812916666666666666666667
2:      422,710.79439583333333333333333333
3:      704,517.9906625
4:      986,325.186925
5:   1,268,132.3831916666666666666666667
6:   1,549,939.5794541666666666666666667
7:   1,831,746.7757208333333333333333333
8:   2,113,553.9719833333333333333333333
9:   2,395,361.16825
10: 2,677,168.3645125
11: 2,958,975.560775
12: 3,240,782.9200166666666666666666667

To get total Area of FE, add 1-12 and multiply by 24 to get: 486962839.0564 sq miles

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In a few months I am planning to travel from Melbourne to Perth (Australia). According to this map that would be about 10000 km, which would take at least 12 hours by airplane.
Lets see...

What Airport are you leaving from? And this greatly depends on flight path too. So time estimations of RE vs FE would depend on these factors .. Hence the same path would be longer on FE than RE.. We can simply determine this by using a speed distance calculator.

10,000 KM's at 600mph would take 10 hours, 21 mins, and 22 seconds.. The average passenger plane does about 540-600mph. So at 580mph (likely avg) . 10 hours, 42 Mins, and 47 sec's .. And this is regardless of Re or FE

The Key thing to note here is that I made these calculations to show why GPS wouldn't work at all on the FE map, as well as why I could never use the Sun to plot my longitude and latitude according to spherical calculations if the Earth were flat. Hence, I would get lost at sea, or never reach my destination if FE was a fact.

The other key note is to understand that the most significant differences are notable as you expand out to the circumference. Hence, America only gained 430k sq miles by visual reference to a cartoon map not in scale according to my calculations..(hence the FE provided map is under scale by a large margin) However, even when using this map as a visual reference, even Australia doubled it's sq miles entirely to over 5 million sq miles by visual reference to this FE cartoon map!.. And I'm sure New Zealand would know if their Country was twice it's size and distance from Australia .. However, this shows it to be far less of a significant problem than it really is vs if we go according to scale percentages of land mass area in accordance to the RE scale.

But let's see where some of the largest changes occur in visual cartoon map reference not in scale vs land mass area calculations.. For this, lets go into South America:

RE:

South America has an area of 17840000 square kilometers (6890000 sq mi) This is roughly 3.5% of Earths 196,935,000 total sq miles.

FE:

According to this map provided and my rough visual calculation, I got 12,977,221.3879 sq miles.. Visualizing the FE map isn't very helpful considering it's not even close to scale.. But I still ended up way over 6.8 million sq miles to where South Africa would be twice it's current size..!

So let's do a more non visual calculation and go by total area percentage of 3.5%. So
I took the total FE area of 486,962,839.0564 and multiplied it by 3.5% to get : 17,043,699.365 million sq miles!

HOT DAM! That would make South America about as large as Asia within the RE model!

So remember this when you go on your trip, if it's FE, it's likely to be a lot further than 10k kilometers We really can't use that map as a scale because their Block size is larger than what my block sizes would be on the same map provided .. And this is because if you look carefully, their blocks are not even, or accurately spaced.

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And here is some very important figures to consider when debating me on this issue..

FE:
486,962,839.0564 sq miles

percent of Earth's ocean 70% - 340,873,987.33948 sq miles
percent of Earth's  land: 30% - 146,088,851.71692 sq miles

RE:
196,935,000 sq miles
percent of Earth's ocean 70% - 137,854,500 sq miles
percent of Earth's land: 30% -  59,080,500 sq miles

If you are going to keep things in scale, and actually be some what accurate in regards to that,  you are going to have to consider these figures and how it relates to the real world, navigation, and the time, speed, and distance calculations to anything from walking to the mall, driving across the country, sailing around the world, or flying to another destination.
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#### PizzaPlanet

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##### Re: Flat Earth Map
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2010, 01:46:53 PM »
Please note that the numbers posted above have nothing to do with TFES or FET and are just a product of an angry RE'er. I apologize for any inconvenience or wasted time that may have been caused.
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#### TheJackel

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##### Re: Flat Earth Map
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2010, 01:56:43 PM »
Please note that the numbers posted above have nothing to do with TFES or FET and are just a product of an angry RE'er. I apologize for any inconvenience or wasted time that may have been caused.

Who's angry? LOL. Please do feel free to point us to the official TFES or FET maps and data LOL. Funny coming from a kid that tells people to "lurk moar" in the magical FAQ.

Your Faq states the following information:
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Circumference: 125,891 km (78,225 miles)
Diameter: 40,073 km (24,900 miles)

Yeah but you know that I'm just sooo angry . So let's see Pizzaplanet produce some actual information here vs trolling for magical credibility points Lurk more into your own FAQ silly kid!

And you do realize that they have to use the diameter of 24,900.2077 correct? Math, scale, time, distance, and speed is your friend. LEARN IT!

Cheers!
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#### PizzaPlanet

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##### Re: Flat Earth Map
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2010, 02:04:25 PM »
Please note that the numbers posted above have nothing to do with TFES or FET and are just a product of an angry RE'er. I apologize for any inconvenience or wasted time that may have been caused.

Who's angry? LOL. Please do feel free to point us to official TFES or FET maps and data LOL. Funny coming from a kid that tells people to "lurk moar" in the magical FAQ. Yeah but you know that I'm just sooo angry . So let's see Pizzaplanet produce some actual information here vs trolling for magical credibility points

Cheers!

If you did lurk more, as I suggested numerous times, you would know that we do not have an accurate map. You would also know why we don't.
Your "numbers" are bogus for two reasons:
• They are based on a guesstimate map, which is by no means not intended nor ready for "number crunching".
• You assume RE as default in your "calculations", which renders them entirely useless regardlessly of what map you use.
I hope this clarifies the unnecessary confusion.
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#### Roundy the Truthinessist

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##### Re: Flat Earth Map
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2010, 02:05:17 PM »
Please note that the numbers posted above have nothing to do with TFES or FET and are just a product of an angry RE'er. I apologize for any inconvenience or wasted time that may have been caused.

Who's angry? LOL. Please do feel free to point us to official TFES or FET maps and data LOL. Funny coming from a kid that tells people to "lurk moar" in the magical FAQ. Yeah but you know that I'm just sooo angry . So let's see Pizzaplanet produce some actual information here vs trolling for magical credibility points

Cheers!

I admire you personally.  I thought I was some kind of champion of wasting time myself but... wow.  You win.
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?

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#### TheJackel

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##### Re: Flat Earth Map
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2010, 02:19:37 PM »
Please note that the numbers posted above have nothing to do with TFES or FET and are just a product of an angry RE'er. I apologize for any inconvenience or wasted time that may have been caused.

Who's angry? LOL. Please do feel free to point us to official TFES or FET maps and data LOL. Funny coming from a kid that tells people to "lurk moar" in the magical FAQ. Yeah but you know that I'm just sooo angry . So let's see Pizzaplanet produce some actual information here vs trolling for magical credibility points

Cheers!

I admire you personally.  I thought I was some kind of champion of wasting time myself but... wow.  You win.

I'm here for the LULZ, and watching people plead apparently . And I don't find exposing frauds trying to teach stupidity as a some religious cult wasting time either.. So either join the topic of debate or continue proving how FE only has circular games as their means of argument..

Essentially, this is what we call a derail, dishonest discourse, and a failure in one's ability to adhere to the topic. Trolling does not give you relevance, especially when you have nothing substantial to add.

So perhaps you can please point us to this magical source of data. If not, don't bother posting.
« Last Edit: July 25, 2010, 02:22:46 PM by TheJackel »
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#### jimjojo

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##### Re: Flat Earth Map
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2010, 02:22:21 PM »
Please note that the numbers posted above have nothing to do with TFES or FET and are just a product of an angry RE'er. I apologize for any inconvenience or wasted time that may have been caused.

Who's angry? LOL. Please do feel free to point us to official TFES or FET maps and data LOL. Funny coming from a kid that tells people to "lurk moar" in the magical FAQ. Yeah but you know that I'm just sooo angry . So let's see Pizzaplanet produce some actual information here vs trolling for magical credibility points

Cheers!

I admire you personally.  I thought I was some kind of champion of wasting time myself but... wow.  You win.
GTFO, I've been reading posts and even your own people don't like you. I made this post for one reason, to get a picture of the map. I got it, quit flaming and get a fucking life...

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#### TheJackel

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##### Re: Flat Earth Map
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2010, 04:02:53 PM »
Please note that the numbers posted above have nothing to do with TFES or FET and are just a product of an angry RE'er. I apologize for any inconvenience or wasted time that may have been caused.

Who's angry? LOL. Please do feel free to point us to official TFES or FET maps and data LOL. Funny coming from a kid that tells people to "lurk moar" in the magical FAQ. Yeah but you know that I'm just sooo angry . So let's see Pizzaplanet produce some actual information here vs trolling for magical credibility points

Cheers!

If you did lurk more, as I suggested numerous times, you would know that we do not have an accurate map. You would also know why we don't.
Your "numbers" are bogus for two reasons:
• They are based on a guesstimate map, which is by no means not intended nor ready for "number crunching".
• You assume RE as default in your "calculations", which renders them entirely useless regardlessly of what map you use.
I hope this clarifies the unnecessary confusion.

This right here show's your failure to comprehend math.. And you are correct, you don't have a map worth wiping an ass with lol. The number crunching is specifically in relation to the Diameter and circumference given by your FAQ son, or do you not comprehend this? And you do realize that I gave both visual estimations and percentages based on the numbers correct?.

What I see here is a kid lacking math skills, and the FET caught with their pants down looking for excuses to worm their way out of it. Learn math before you make such moronic comments son. And just so you comprehend your stupidity further in terms of math, I will repeat the following:

I'm not talking about the math. I'm talking about the FAQ numbers.
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Really, so now FE can't even agree on numbers LOL.. Let's put it this way, when converting spherical data into circle data, you will screw the pooch on scale and accuracy no matter what you attempt to do here . And the other problem is that you have to use RE Earth's circumference for FE's diameter, because if you don't, you end up with severe shrinkage or way over expansion of land mass, and surface area .. You can attempt to play the numbers game with me and it's not going to work

Feel free however to give me an Official map, or data.. And you do realize that this really show's how poor the FE argument is correct?..

When you can keep up pizzaplanet, you let me know . And the fact that you don't have a map, or can't even establish where you get the diameter and circumference for the FE from, really show's how pathetically weak your argument is. Hence, please list your magical explorers that actually went around the edge of the Earth to measure it, or even to establish it's even a circle.. You do realize that many Christian bibles say the Earth has 4 corners and is not a circle correct?

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##### Re: Flat Earth Map
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2010, 04:11:44 PM »
Yeah, you still keep using RET as default for the numbers. Meh, nothing new to see here.
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#### jimjojo

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« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2010, 04:13:23 PM »
Yeah, you still keep using RET numbers. Meh, nothing new to see here.

why are they used? because they are the real numbers...

also what does RE and FE mean?
I assume RE means Real Earth and FE means Fake Earth right?

#### PizzaPlanet

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« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2010, 04:15:13 PM »
Yeah, you still keep using RET numbers. Meh, nothing new to see here.

why are they used? because they are the real numbers...
Not necessarily, but my wording of the point was faulty. I corrected it.

also what does RE and FE mean?
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#### jimjojo

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« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2010, 04:16:33 PM »
Yeah, you still keep using RET numbers. Meh, nothing new to see here.

why are they used? because they are the real numbers...
Not necessarily, but my wording of the point was faulty. I corrected it.

also what does RE and FE mean?

I know what RE and FE means, get out of your parents basement little boy, run outside and play, and stop taking things so literal.

#### Roundy the Truthinessist

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« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2010, 04:18:52 PM »
GTFO, I've been reading posts and even your own people don't like you.

Huh?
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« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2010, 04:19:15 PM »
I know what RE and FE means, get out of your parents basement little boy, run outside and play, and stop taking things so literal.

GTFO, I've been reading posts and even your own people don't like you.

Huh?
Face it, Roundy. Everyone hates you.
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#### Roundy the Truthinessist

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« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2010, 04:19:47 PM »
Face it, Roundy. Everyone hates you.

I feel so betrayed!
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« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2010, 04:20:34 PM »
Face it, Roundy. Everyone hates you.

I feel so betrayed!

Aww, you know I secretly love you. Quite literally.
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#### jimjojo

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« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2010, 04:23:04 PM »
I know what RE and FE means, get out of your parents basement little boy, run outside and play, and stop taking things so literal.

Kind of sad when you have to point out a grammatical error when you have nothing to say.

#### PizzaPlanet

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« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2010, 04:23:55 PM »
I do have something to say. Perhaps you omitted it.
Oh, and mind you, those were several errors, and not just grammatical ones.
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#### jimjojo

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« Reply #19 on: July 25, 2010, 04:26:39 PM »
I do have something to say. Perhaps you omitted it.
Oh, and mind you, those were several errors, and not just grammatical ones.

Nope, you're either a 12 year old boy or a pedo who likes little boy pictures on all his posts...

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« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2010, 04:29:14 PM »
Nope, you're either a 12 year old boy or a pedo who likes little boy pictures on all his posts...
I'm 11.

Kind of sad when you have to resort to ad hominem when you have nothing to say.
Wait... that sentence just here... it looks familiar... suspiciously familiar...

Kind of sad when you have to point out a grammatical error when you have nothing to say.

Oh, and are you suggesting that people's avatars reflect their sexual preferences? Are you asexual? Are you saying that sexual minorities are such a majority?
Also, lol Taters.
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#### TheJackel

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« Reply #21 on: July 25, 2010, 04:32:12 PM »
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Not necessarily, but my wording of the point was faulty. I corrected it.

Yes necessarily, RE numbers are factually accurate. Displaying your lack of education isn't helping you. And you do realize that GPS is stated by you as being "consisted" after being proved wrong in your earlier statements. Oh how the self-contradiction has no bounds with theists these days.

You need to make up your mind son, it seems you are conflicted. Like I said kid, all I need is a time, speed, and distance calculation to continuously slap your FET in the face So don't bother posting until you can understand the math, and why the math show's your arguments to be completely moronic. This isn't something you can magically fix pizzaplanet, or ever fix.  LOL.

Funny how simply general math can collapse the entire FET. This is like taking a marker to bypass Sony's DRM protection to which they spent millions of dollars on developing lol.. Except in this case, you are intentionally, or simply too dumb to figure out why you have so easily been circumvented, and why your concept will never functionally be viable in regards to the real world.

It took me less than 10 mins of math calculations to collapse the entire FE theory. And I wonder how long it took them to come up with it lol.

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#### jimjojo

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« Reply #22 on: July 25, 2010, 04:33:32 PM »
Nope, you're either a 12 year old boy or a pedo who likes little boy pictures on all his posts...
I'm 11.

Kind of sad when you have to resort to ad hominem when you have nothing to say.
Wait... that sentence just here... it looks familiar... suspiciously familiar...

Kind of sad when you have to point out a grammatical error when you have nothing to say.

Oh, and are you suggesting that people's avatars reflect their sexual preferences? Are you asexual? Are you saying that sexual minorities are such a majority?
Also, lol Taters.

Wow, uh little boy, for 1. I did have something to say so it makes your first statement irrelevant. And 2. Being a pedo is not a sexual preference, a sexual preference is by gender whether it is both, the same, or the other. I feel so sorry for you. Its sad when a child has to be exposed to such nonsensical bullshit.
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#### PizzaPlanet

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« Reply #23 on: July 25, 2010, 04:41:51 PM »
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Not necessarily, but my wording of the point was faulty. I corrected it.

Yes necessarily
Sigh.

RE numbers are factually accurate.
Most of them, yes.

Displaying your lack of education isn't helping you.
Are you stuck on an endless loop?

And you do realize that GPS is stated by you as being "consisted" after being proved wrong in your earlier statements.
What? Consisted? Consisted in what? By what?

Oh how the self-contradiction has no bounds with theists these days.
All I'm saying is that you can't prove a round Earth by assuming a round Earth as default. That would be circular logic, of which you accuse people ever so often.

You need to make up your mind son, it seems you are conflicted.
Not at all. Perhaps you just don't understand? Let me know once you catch up, grandpa.

Like I said kid, all I need is a time, speed, and distance calculation to continuously slap your FET in the face
Sure, pa, just do that without assuming RE as default. Oh, wait, then it won't prove anything. Damn.

Wow, uh little boy, for 1. I did have something to say so it makes your first statement irrelevant.

And 2. Being a pedo is not a sexual preference, a sexual preference is by gender whether it is both, the same, or the other. I feel so sorry for you. Its sad when a child has to be exposed to such nonsensical bullshit.
What you just defined is a sexual orientation. Sexual preferences are something else. If you prefer to have sex with kids, then it's your preference. That's how the English language works. Choices are what you choose. Needs are what you need. Desires are what you desire. Preferences are what you prefer.
Also, more ad hominem. How cute.
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#### jimjojo

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« Reply #24 on: July 25, 2010, 04:46:24 PM »
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Not necessarily, but my wording of the point was faulty. I corrected it.

Yes necessarily
Sigh.

RE numbers are factually accurate.
Most of them, yes.

Displaying your lack of education isn't helping you.
Are you stuck on an endless loop?

And you do realize that GPS is stated by you as being "consisted" after being proved wrong in your earlier statements.
What? Consisted? Consisted in what? By what?

Oh how the self-contradiction has no bounds with theists these days.
All I'm saying is that you can't prove a round Earth by assuming a round Earth as default. That would be circular logic, of which you accuse people ever so often.

You need to make up your mind son, it seems you are conflicted.
Not at all. Perhaps you just don't understand? Let me know once you catch up, grandpa.

Like I said kid, all I need is a time, speed, and distance calculation to continuously slap your FET in the face
Sure, pa, just do that without assuming RE as default. Oh, wait, then it won't prove anything. Damn.

Wow, uh little boy, for 1. I did have something to say so it makes your first statement irrelevant.

And 2. Being a pedo is not a sexual preference, a sexual preference is by gender whether it is both, the same, or the other. I feel so sorry for you. Its sad when a child has to be exposed to such nonsensical bullshit.
What you just defined is a sexual orientation. Sexual preferences are something else. If you prefer to have sex with kids, then it's your preference. That's how the English language works. Choices are what you choose. Needs are what you need. Desires are what you desire. Preferences are what you prefer.
Also, more ad hominem. How cute.

Very sad that there is actually an 11 year old child who would rather waste his time posting stuff like this rather than go outside and hang out with friends. I pray for you young child.

#### PizzaPlanet

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##### Re: Flat Earth Map
« Reply #25 on: July 25, 2010, 04:53:22 PM »
Kind of sad when you have to resort to ad hominem when you have nothing to say.
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#### jimjojo

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« Reply #26 on: July 25, 2010, 04:58:28 PM »
Kind of sad when you have to resort to ad hominem when you have nothing to say.

Wow, its not ad hominem, because there was nothing to reply to...I was just making a true statement...Sorry...

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#### TheJackel

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##### Re: Flat Earth Map
« Reply #27 on: July 25, 2010, 05:24:40 PM »
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RE numbers are factually accurate.
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Most of them, yes.

You're getting there Pizzaplanet Education is just right around the corner for you. Just backpedal just a little bit more and you might have a light bulb ignite above your head for the very first time in your life.

Can you show me where accuracy variance would equal the falsification of RE? Yeah I didn't think so;). How about we go back to your earlier posts on flight times? Should we revisit those? I'm sure we can do a time, speed, and distance calculation for you

So let's do a simple example :

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flight Roundtrip: from  \$820
11:50 pm Depart Los Angeles (LAX)
Arrive Sydney (SYD) 7:25 am Wed 4-Aug
Duration: 14hr 35mn

RE calculation:

Origin: Los Angeles
Destination: Sydney Australia
Distance in miles: 7,508 miles
Distance in kilometers: 12,081
Speed avg: 515 mph
Time to Arrival: 14 hours, 34 mins, 43 seconds

Time to Tavel around the world along the equator (24,900miles) at the same speed: 48 hours, 20 mins and  58 seconds on rounded number.

To put this into clarity for you we can compare distance and time:

24,900 - 7,508 = 17,392 mile differentiation. The Time differentiation is 33 hours, 46 minutes, and 15 sec's.. Add this to the time Arrival in Sydney Australia and you get a perfectly consistent match of 48 hours,  20 minutes, and 58 sec's at 515 mph according to a 196 million sq mile planet with a circumference of 24,900 miles.

However, they could do in even less time over the same flight path going 580mph, but speed greatly depends on the Jet Stream, and the speed capabilities of the aircraft.. And that is taking the "long way". And this directly matches up with RE distance accuracy and a 196 million sq mile planet! Yeah there is a reason why it's consisted pizzaplanet!

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#### PizzaPlanet

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##### Re: Flat Earth Map
« Reply #28 on: July 25, 2010, 06:46:01 PM »
Can you show me where accuracy variance would equal the falsification of RE? Yeah I didn't think so;).
No, the measurements were taken from the Earth, so they're quite blatantly mostly precise, or precise-ish.
The shape has nothing to do with that, though.

RE calculation:
You're still not getting this, are you?

The Time differentiation is 33 hours, 46 minutes, and 15 sec's.. Add this to the time Arrival in Sydney Australia and you get a perfectly consistent match of 48 hours,  20 minutes, and 58 sec's at 515 mph according to a 196 million sq mile planet!
And that is covered by the FAQ. Read it. It's not part of Rowbotham's model, so saying it's outdated doesn't do much.
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#### TheJackel

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« Reply #29 on: July 25, 2010, 06:56:36 PM »
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No, the measurements were taken from the Earth, so they're quite blatantly mostly precise, or precise-ish.
The shape has nothing to do with that, though.

Actually it does, again learn your math.. The scales in the RE can only be applied to the spherical equation and mathematical calculation to maintain it's exact scale son. It can not be applied to a circular calculation no matter how hard you try to deny it, or manipulate it LOL... Learn what GPS coordinates are, and how they are translated as well.  Learn what scale means in terms of differentiation of circumference, diameter, and sq miles of a circle vs a sphere and you might once again learn some real science

Now if you want to get technical about "precise-ish", there will never be an atom to atom measurement of the Earth lol, especially when it's dynamic. However, FE will never have even a "precise" map, or even remotely close to it.  Hence, keep dreaming bud, you can't turn a circle into a sphere, or sphere into a circle and have it work according to scale, or being precise..

You are essentially a kid trying to ram a square block through a circle hole to which it doesn't fit through lol.. Me telling you to learn math is like me telling you to learn your fn shapes kid! LOL

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You're still not getting this, are you?

Oh, it's not me that's not getting it LMAO!..

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And that is covered by the FAQ. Read it. It's not part of Rowbotham's model, so saying it's outdated doesn't do much.

Actually it's not covered in the FAQ, I suggest you re-read it to figure out why it doesn't. Again, you seem to have a major problem understanding why the FAQ is a laughable joke. You can feel free to link me to this magical data.

Like I said, no matter what data you attempt to give me for a Flat Earth, it's going to completely fail when I whip out the time, distance, and speed calculation Have fun trying to prove me wrong LMAO.

Math is your friend, embrace it and give it some love.

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