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Johannes

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Crustinator Banned?
« on: July 06, 2010, 04:28:04 PM »
Some new account claiming to be crustinator PMed me and asked why he was banned.

Anyone want to explain.

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Re: Crustinator Banned?
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2010, 04:46:10 PM »
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Crustinator got banned for flaming and troublemaking after the fact.  I did not ban him.

Anyone that posted in original now gone thread won't get banned for those posts.  In general we are moving the threads to RM.

If you want to flame someone, keep it to RM.  If you don't like being flamed, don't go to RM.  Thats as simple as I can make it.
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Re: Crustinator Banned?
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2010, 04:47:15 PM »
About time, too. How long's he gone for?
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Re: Crustinator Banned?
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2010, 06:07:39 PM »
Quote from: Johannes on July 06, 2010, 04:28:04 PM
Some new account claiming to be crustinator PMed me and asked why he was banned.

Anyone want to explain.

thanks

Maybe you should explain to him that creating alts to circumvent a ban is a perma-ban offense.
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Re: Crustinator Banned?
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2010, 06:18:16 PM »
Quote from: markjo on July 06, 2010, 06:07:39 PM
Quote from: Johannes on July 06, 2010, 04:28:04 PM
Some new account claiming to be crustinator PMed me and asked why he was banned.

Anyone want to explain.

thanks

Maybe you should explain to him that creating alts to circumvent a ban is a perma-ban offense.
Actually, it's not. Saddam and The Drifter have done it, and were not banned.
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Re: Crustinator Banned?
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2010, 07:13:36 PM »
Quote from: Benjamin Franklin on July 06, 2010, 06:18:16 PM
Quote from: markjo on July 06, 2010, 06:07:39 PM
Quote from: Johannes on July 06, 2010, 04:28:04 PM
Some new account claiming to be crustinator PMed me and asked why he was banned.

Anyone want to explain.

thanks

Maybe you should explain to him that creating alts to circumvent a ban is a perma-ban offense.
Actually, it's not. Saddam and The Drifter have done it, and were not banned.

The Drifter was repeatedly re-banned, although no reason was no ever given for his initial ban in the first place.
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Re: Crustinator Banned?
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2010, 07:36:10 PM »
Quote from: Benjamin Franklin on July 06, 2010, 06:18:16 PM
Quote from: markjo on July 06, 2010, 06:07:39 PM
Quote from: Johannes on July 06, 2010, 04:28:04 PM
Some new account claiming to be crustinator PMed me and asked why he was banned.

Anyone want to explain.

thanks

Maybe you should explain to him that creating alts to circumvent a ban is a perma-ban offense.
Actually, it's not. Saddam and The Drifter have done it, and were not banned.
Actually it is, it just isn't always enforced.
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Benjamin Franklin

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Re: Crustinator Banned?
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2010, 08:28:30 PM »
Quote from: markjo on July 06, 2010, 07:36:10 PM
Quote from: Benjamin Franklin on July 06, 2010, 06:18:16 PM
Quote from: markjo on July 06, 2010, 06:07:39 PM
Quote from: Johannes on July 06, 2010, 04:28:04 PM
Some new account claiming to be crustinator PMed me and asked why he was banned.

Anyone want to explain.

thanks

Maybe you should explain to him that creating alts to circumvent a ban is a perma-ban offense.
Actually, it's not. Saddam and The Drifter have done it, and were not banned.
Actually it is, it just isn't always enforced.
It was, in both bases, condoned by mods to circumvent it to contact the forum to discuss the legitimacy. It's not a case of negligent moderation, it's accepted precedent.
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Saddam Hussein

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Re: Crustinator Banned?
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2010, 08:39:50 PM »
I wouldn't go that far, Franklin.  The mods went easy on me, frankly, and threatened a ban extension if I didn't back off.  Also, I don't recall The Drifter ever getting his ban reversed.  All I remember are all his alts getting shot down one by one.
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Benjamin Franklin

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Re: Crustinator Banned?
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2010, 08:44:56 PM »
Quote from: Saddam Hussein on July 06, 2010, 08:39:50 PM
I wouldn't go that far, Franklin.  The mods went easy on me, frankly, and threatened a ban extension if I didn't back off.  Also, I don't recall The Drifter ever getting his ban reversed.  All I remember are all his alts getting shot down one by one.
IIRC, one of his alts was allowed to stay. I remember it posting on 8/30.
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Re: Crustinator Banned?
« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2010, 09:07:24 PM »
AFAIK making alts for whatever reason is against the rules.  At the very least anyone should be able to find Daniels email if they wish to contest the ban or any one of ours.  Hopefully more often we'll start putting email addies in our emails.  We were talking about a public email account for all of us, but that has yet to materialize.
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Re: Crustinator Banned?
« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2010, 10:08:41 PM »
Quote from: John Davis on July 06, 2010, 09:07:24 PM
Hopefully more often we'll start putting email addies in our emails.

wat
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Re: Crustinator Banned?
« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2010, 10:12:50 PM »
Quote from: Parsifal on July 06, 2010, 10:08:41 PM
Quote from: John Davis on July 06, 2010, 09:07:24 PM
Hopefully more often we'll start putting email addies in our emails.

wat
Hopefully future bans will have our email addresses mailed with the reason to the person banned.
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Re: Crustinator Banned?
« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2010, 10:19:11 PM »
Quote from: John Davis on July 06, 2010, 10:12:50 PM
Hopefully future bans will have our email addresses mailed with the reason to the person banned.

o rite
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Re: Crustinator Banned?
« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2010, 02:45:24 AM »
Was he banned for insulting levee in RM?  Don't get me wrong, there are a dozen valid reasons why he ought to be banned, but it seems a silly reason to choose.
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Re: Crustinator Banned?
« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2010, 05:45:20 AM »
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Re: Crustinator Banned?
« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2010, 07:21:17 AM »
Quote from: John Davis on July 06, 2010, 10:12:50 PM
Quote from: Parsifal on July 06, 2010, 10:08:41 PM
Quote from: John Davis on July 06, 2010, 09:07:24 PM
Hopefully more often we'll start putting email addies in our emails.

wat
Hopefully future bans will have our email addresses mailed with the reason to the person banned.

But you have not yet started including the mail yourself?
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Re: Crustinator Banned?
« Reply #17 on: July 07, 2010, 08:24:47 AM »
Crusty's ban was hilarious. It's like 1984 on the internet.
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Re: Crustinator Banned?
« Reply #18 on: July 07, 2010, 09:50:54 AM »
Quote from: Dino Piranha on July 07, 2010, 08:24:47 AM
Crusty's ban was hilarious. It's like 1984 on the internet.

Where are the flesh eating rats?
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Saddam Hussein

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Re: Crustinator Banned?
« Reply #19 on: July 07, 2010, 10:15:36 AM »
Honestly, I'm willing to give the mods the benefit of the doubt on this one.  Like I said, I do think it's a little bit silly that he got banned for getting into a squat with levee, but Crusty can be a real dick, and he's had something like this coming for a while.  For example, he's gotten reported a few times recently for trolling and derailing in the "Monty Hall" and "Moving to free software" threads.  I'm assuming that the mods took those kinds of things into consideration.

Unless, of course, it was levee who threw down the banhammer immediately without consulting anyone first. :-\
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Re: Crustinator Banned?
« Reply #20 on: July 07, 2010, 10:18:50 AM »
Him being banned at this time, in this current FES political climate, cannot be a coincidence.
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Re: Crustinator Banned?
« Reply #21 on: July 07, 2010, 10:36:07 AM »
I'm not saying it is a coincidence, I'm just saying that it might be a little bit more complicated than him simply insulting levee.
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Re: Crustinator Banned?
« Reply #22 on: July 07, 2010, 10:48:01 AM »
Whatever the reason, I miss him so.
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Re: Crustinator Banned?
« Reply #23 on: July 07, 2010, 11:55:01 AM »
Quote from: Saddam Hussein on July 07, 2010, 10:36:07 AM
I'm not saying it is a coincidence, I'm just saying that it might be a little bit more complicated than him simply insulting levee.
It being more complicated sounds like a convenient excuse.
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Re: Crustinator Banned?
« Reply #24 on: July 07, 2010, 12:01:54 PM »
Quote from: PizzaPlanet on July 07, 2010, 11:55:01 AM
Quote from: Saddam Hussein on July 07, 2010, 10:36:07 AM
I'm not saying it is a coincidence, I'm just saying that it might be a little bit more complicated than him simply insulting levee.
It being more complicated sounds like a convenient excuse.

Where did he insult levee? If it was outside RM, then he had it coming.  If it was in RM, then I don't understand why someone banned him.  He can be an asshole, but he's pretty funny most of the time. I haven't paid attention to what he posts in the srs bsns forums, though.
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Re: Crustinator Banned?
« Reply #25 on: July 07, 2010, 12:05:43 PM »
It was the Lounge, which is funny, because the rules specifically state that you can make threads about people being stupid there. Apparently that's a misunderstanding, but it is stated there quite firmly.
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Re: Crustinator Banned?
« Reply #26 on: July 07, 2010, 12:09:35 PM »
Well, as much as I enjoy Crusty's sense of humor, I'm gonna have to side with the mods then.  Really the only forum we're allowed to flame each other in is RM.  I don't exactly remember what Wilmore meant when he wrote that post about what the Lounge is for, but he didn't mean the Lounge was for calling other members stupid.  Perhaps he should clarify it for the noobs. 
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Re: Crustinator Banned?
« Reply #27 on: July 07, 2010, 12:18:52 PM »

Quote from: Roundy the Truthinessist on July 07, 2010, 12:13:50 PM

It's extremely silly and something I really think should just be dropped.
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Re: Crustinator Banned?
« Reply #28 on: July 07, 2010, 12:50:35 PM »
Well, in that case I think the guidelines post should be edited. However, his insults were in no way more severe than the original thread. He made several threads that referred to the original one, such as "Levee is nuts", "Levee likes nuts", or "Certain people are nuts". They way I see it, the guidelines suggest that we call each other stupid in the Lounge (sure, I understand that wasn't the original intention, but that's what it says), and Crusty's offense wasn't that much compared to, well, anything.
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Re: Crustinator Banned?
« Reply #29 on: July 07, 2010, 01:26:57 PM »
Quote from: Saddam Hussein on July 07, 2010, 10:15:36 AM
Honestly, I'm willing to give the mods the benefit of the doubt on this one.  Like I said, I do think it's a little bit silly that he got banned for getting into a squat with levee, but Crusty can be a real dick, and he's had something like this coming for a while.  For example, he's gotten reported a few times recently for trolling and derailing in the "Monty Hall" and "Moving to free software" threads.  I'm assuming that the mods took those kinds of things into consideration.
This. I have no problem with the mods making a judgment call, in this case, because Crusty has done so much shitty trolling in serious forums, and hardly has a productive history here.
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