Marijuana

I gotta agree with Parsifal

And when I was in school a fair few of my friends smoked it but I never tried it. We used to hangout at the Brewery which was always full of potheads with plenty of smoking out the back and I never felt the urge to try it

You are all wrong about it not being an addiction. I know loads of people that can't go even a few hours without a spliff.

You are all wrong about it not being an addiction. I know loads of people that can't go even a few hours without a spliff.

That could just be a psychological addiction.  Marijuana has been proven to not be physically addictive.  And you can't blame something that's psychologically addictive on the substance itself.  You can get psychologically addicted to anything.

Quote from: frozen_berries on July 03, 2010, 04:22:07 AM

You are all wrong about it not being an addiction. I know loads of people that can't go even a few hours without a spliff.

That could just be a psychological addiction.  Marijuana has been proven to not be physically addictive.  And you can't blame something that's psychologically addictive on the substance itself.  You can get psychologically addicted to anything.

Best example, Gambling.

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Quote from: frozen_berries on July 03, 2010, 04:22:07 AM

You are all wrong about it not being an addiction. I know loads of people that can't go even a few hours without a spliff.

That could just be a psychological addiction.  Marijuana has been proven to not be physically addictive.  And you can't blame something that's psychologically addictive on the substance itself.  You can get psychologically addicted to anything.

Best example, Gambling.

Better example, FES.

On the subject of gambling being addictive, I hate the way that so many states over here very tightly regulate it, and even completely outlaw it in a few places.  I don't mean to sound callous, but if you're psychologically addicted to something, then it's really your problem, no one else's, and it's not right for the government to blame something just because of how a few people react to it.

Yes, marijuana has been proven to not be physically addicting in any way. Very few people get "mentally" addicted to it but as Hussein said, that can't be blamed on the substance itself if someone gets themselves into that situation.

And Parsifal... Glad to know you're clearly a stuck up asshole. Nice to meet you.

And Parsifal... Glad to know you're clearly a stuck up asshole. Nice to meet you.

Don't take it personally.

Don't listen to Lotso-Huggin Bear, he's Franklin's alt.

You are all wrong about it not being an addiction. I know loads of people that can't go even a few hours without a spliff.

Don't spliffs have tobacco in them?

Quote from: frozen_berries on July 03, 2010, 04:22:07 AM

You are all wrong about it not being an addiction. I know loads of people that can't go even a few hours without a spliff.

Don't spliffs have tobacco in them?

Weed is always smoked with tobacco unless you are a hardcore rasta or using a bong.

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Peer pressure is an excuse parents came up with so they could blame someone besides themselves for their kids being fucked up.

Nah, it does exist.  You don't think it does, but the need for acceptance is very strong in most teenagers.  I was lucky: I didn't like most people in my school so it was easy to avoid being pressured into doing anything.

I was a teenager once  I know how desperate parents get when they can't accept that they've made huge mistakes.  It has to be the fault of someone else, it can't possibly be their fault for ignoring what was going on in their kid's life.  It's not their fault their kid turned to drugs for comfort instead of them (BAWWWWW!).  Besides, there are many kinds of acceptance for teens. If a teen is desperate for acceptance from his peers, he can always choose peers who don't smoke weed.  The ones who choose the smokers were going to end up trying it anyway.  

I was a big pothead in high school, I never pressured anyone to smoke, in fact I didn't really want to be around people who didn't.  I just gravitated towards people I knew were potheads too. Birds of a feather.  Same with all the other drugs I tried or used regularly.  I sought out the people I needed to know, so that I could have friends who were into it.

Oh yes, because it's so easy for shy/strange people to choose their friends...  

Seriously, why do you think people talk about being "cool" all the time?  Well, teenagers anyway.

Was?
So why not now?  Doesn't do it for you anymore?

Do you think it's any easier for a shy/strange kid to make friends with potheads? Why would they automatically gravitate towards the potheads? You want to find someone to blame for drug use, without laying the blame on the person who chooses to use. I find it weird how our culture has infantilized teens to the point where we don't hold them responsible for their actions.  

What does talking about being "cool" all the time have to do with smoking pot?

Was. If pot was legal, I'd be smoking it still, but I stay away from illegal activities these days.  It's part of growing up, you give up some of your rebellious ways. A part of me wants to say a big "fuck you" to the ridiculous laws against pot use, but I'm not anxious to go to jail.  When I was younger, I didn't care.. or more accurately, I believed that somehow I was immune from the consequences of breaking the law.

Quote from: Areweonfiya on July 03, 2010, 09:49:41 AM

Quote from: frozen_berries on July 03, 2010, 04:22:07 AM

You are all wrong about it not being an addiction. I know loads of people that can't go even a few hours without a spliff.

Don't spliffs have tobacco in them?

Weed is always smoked with tobacco unless you are a hardcore rasta or using a bong.

What? No, it isn't always smoked with tobacco.  Mixing it with tobacco is disgusting.

Quote from: Areweonfiya on July 03, 2010, 09:49:41 AM

Quote from: frozen_berries on July 03, 2010, 04:22:07 AM

You are all wrong about it not being an addiction. I know loads of people that can't go even a few hours without a spliff.

Don't spliffs have tobacco in them?

Weed is always smoked with tobacco unless you are a hardcore rasta or using a bong.

Wow, talk about being uneducated! Very few people ever mix weed and tobacco.

My main reason for supporting drugs being legal extends far beyond the realm of drugs. In general, I think it's as important for people to understand why they shouldn't abuse things as it is for them to not be abused. If the government protects people by fencing off everything that might possibly harm them, then we start placing faith in the government to tell us what is Bad™, rather than learning for ourselves. This opens the door to authoritarian regimes whereby the government "protects" us from things they don't want us to know about.

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Quote from: Areweonfiya on July 03, 2010, 09:49:41 AM

Quote from: frozen_berries on July 03, 2010, 04:22:07 AM

You are all wrong about it not being an addiction. I know loads of people that can't go even a few hours without a spliff.

Don't spliffs have tobacco in them?

Weed is always smoked with tobacco unless you are a hardcore rasta or using a bong.

Wow, talk about being uneducated! Very few people ever mix weed and tobacco.

Oh sorry I don't have a diploma on Weed.

Quote from: frozen_berries on July 03, 2010, 10:37:55 AM

Quote from: Areweonfiya on July 03, 2010, 09:49:41 AM

Quote from: frozen_berries on July 03, 2010, 04:22:07 AM

You are all wrong about it not being an addiction. I know loads of people that can't go even a few hours without a spliff.

Don't spliffs have tobacco in them?

Weed is always smoked with tobacco unless you are a hardcore rasta or using a bong.

What? No, it isn't always smoked with tobacco.  Mixing it with tobacco is disgusting.

Tobacco helps it burn better. I should probably rephrase that and say a lot of people in Europe prefer to mix it.

Eh, I guess it could since tobacco stays lit better than weed does. But if people are addicted to a combination of weed and tobacco, it's ONLY because of the tobacco and the nicotine in it. They have no chemical addiction to the marijuana.

The times I tried smoking weed mixed with tobacco I thought the tobacco ruined the taste.  I never minded having to relight a joint.

The times I tried smoking weed mixed with tobacco I thought the tobacco ruined the taste.  I never minded having to relight a joint.

For me without tobacco a lot of the weed gets wasted because it doesn't burn properly. How much tobacco did you add?

I usually added just enough to let it burn properly. Usually 75% weed, 25% tobacco. The tobacco didn't really ruin the taste for me.

Eh, I guess it could since tobacco stays lit better than weed does. But if people are addicted to a combination of weed and tobacco, it's ONLY because of the tobacco and the nicotine in it. They have no chemical addiction to the marijuana.

I guess it's just the psychological addiction.

I have no idea what the ratio of tobacco to weed was, but I won't ever waste my time mixing them again.  Also, I never really worried about a little weed getting wasted in the process.  It's not like crack where you worry about the crumbs.

Quote from: Areweonfiya on July 03, 2010, 09:49:41 AM

Quote from: frozen_berries on July 03, 2010, 04:22:07 AM

You are all wrong about it not being an addiction. I know loads of people that can't go even a few hours without a spliff.

Don't spliffs have tobacco in them?

Weed is always smoked with tobacco unless you are a hardcore rasta or using a bong.

No. Weed is never smoked with tobacco unless you are a dirty bum.

Quote from: frozen_berries on July 03, 2010, 10:37:55 AM

Quote from: Areweonfiya on July 03, 2010, 09:49:41 AM

Quote from: frozen_berries on July 03, 2010, 04:22:07 AM

You are all wrong about it not being an addiction. I know loads of people that can't go even a few hours without a spliff.

Don't spliffs have tobacco in them?

Weed is always smoked with tobacco unless you are a hardcore rasta or using a bong.

No. Weed is never smoked with tobacco unless you are a dirty bum.

Or Mexicans. That's not racism, it's just more standard in Mexico to smoke weed with tobacco.

Quote from: frozen_berries on July 03, 2010, 10:37:55 AM

Quote from: Areweonfiya on July 03, 2010, 09:49:41 AM

Quote from: frozen_berries on July 03, 2010, 04:22:07 AM

You are all wrong about it not being an addiction. I know loads of people that can't go even a few hours without a spliff.

Don't spliffs have tobacco in them?

Weed is always smoked with tobacco unless you are a hardcore rasta or using a bong.

No. Weed is never smoked with tobacco unless you are a dirty bum.

Not true.  Smoking weed straight is more an American thing.  Europe, Australia, etc go the other way. 

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Quote from: frozen_berries on July 03, 2010, 10:37:55 AM

Quote from: Areweonfiya on July 03, 2010, 09:49:41 AM

Quote from: frozen_berries on July 03, 2010, 04:22:07 AM

You are all wrong about it not being an addiction. I know loads of people that can't go even a few hours without a spliff.

Don't spliffs have tobacco in them?

Weed is always smoked with tobacco unless you are a hardcore rasta or using a bong.

No. Weed is never smoked with tobacco unless you are a dirty bum.

Not true.  Smoking weed straight is more an American thing.  Europe, Australia, etc go the other way. 

Meh. Bowls and bongs are rather popular here. In my experience tobacco is far too harsh to add to most smoking devices.

My real point was that smoking marijuana straight does not make you a hardcore rasta, and is in fact the norm in a lot of places.

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Quote from: frozen_berries on July 03, 2010, 10:37:55 AM

Quote from: Areweonfiya on July 03, 2010, 09:49:41 AM

Quote from: frozen_berries on July 03, 2010, 04:22:07 AM

You are all wrong about it not being an addiction. I know loads of people that can't go even a few hours without a spliff.

Don't spliffs have tobacco in them?

Weed is always smoked with tobacco unless you are a hardcore rasta or using a bong.

No. Weed is never smoked with tobacco unless you are a dirty bum.

Not true.  Smoking weed straight is more an American thing.  Europe, Australia, etc go the other way. 

Meh. Bowls and bongs are rather popular here. In my experience tobacco is far too harsh to add to most smoking devices.

My real point was that smoking marijuana straight does not make you a hardcore rasta, and is in fact the norm in a lot of places.

Your skinny straight marijuana joints don't really count. Can you even get high from that?

Quote from: Raist on July 03, 2010, 09:09:28 PM

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Quote from: Raist on July 03, 2010, 03:44:26 PM

Quote from: frozen_berries on July 03, 2010, 10:37:55 AM

Quote from: Areweonfiya on July 03, 2010, 09:49:41 AM

Quote from: frozen_berries on July 03, 2010, 04:22:07 AM

You are all wrong about it not being an addiction. I know loads of people that can't go even a few hours without a spliff.

Don't spliffs have tobacco in them?

Weed is always smoked with tobacco unless you are a hardcore rasta or using a bong.

No. Weed is never smoked with tobacco unless you are a dirty bum.

Not true.  Smoking weed straight is more an American thing.  Europe, Australia, etc go the other way. 

Meh. Bowls and bongs are rather popular here. In my experience tobacco is far too harsh to add to most smoking devices.

My real point was that smoking marijuana straight does not make you a hardcore rasta, and is in fact the norm in a lot of places.

Your skinny straight marijuana joints don't really count. Can you even get high from that?

Doing the same thing with less marijuana would?

Quote from: frozen_berries on July 04, 2010, 02:49:06 AM

Quote from: Raist on July 03, 2010, 09:09:28 PM

Quote from: John Davis on July 03, 2010, 09:06:58 PM

Quote from: Raist on July 03, 2010, 03:44:26 PM

Quote from: frozen_berries on July 03, 2010, 10:37:55 AM

Quote from: Areweonfiya on July 03, 2010, 09:49:41 AM

Quote from: frozen_berries on July 03, 2010, 04:22:07 AM

You are all wrong about it not being an addiction. I know loads of people that can't go even a few hours without a spliff.

Don't spliffs have tobacco in them?

Weed is always smoked with tobacco unless you are a hardcore rasta or using a bong.

No. Weed is never smoked with tobacco unless you are a dirty bum.

Not true.  Smoking weed straight is more an American thing.  Europe, Australia, etc go the other way. 

Meh. Bowls and bongs are rather popular here. In my experience tobacco is far too harsh to add to most smoking devices.

My real point was that smoking marijuana straight does not make you a hardcore rasta, and is in fact the norm in a lot of places.

Your skinny straight marijuana joints don't really count. Can you even get high from that?

Doing the same thing with less marijuana would?

Who said anything about less marijuana?

Quote from: Raist on July 03, 2010, 09:09:28 PM

Quote from: John Davis on July 03, 2010, 09:06:58 PM

Quote from: Raist on July 03, 2010, 03:44:26 PM

Quote from: frozen_berries on July 03, 2010, 10:37:55 AM

Quote from: Areweonfiya on July 03, 2010, 09:49:41 AM

Quote from: frozen_berries on July 03, 2010, 04:22:07 AM

You are all wrong about it not being an addiction. I know loads of people that can't go even a few hours without a spliff.

Don't spliffs have tobacco in them?

Weed is always smoked with tobacco unless you are a hardcore rasta or using a bong.

No. Weed is never smoked with tobacco unless you are a dirty bum.

Not true.  Smoking weed straight is more an American thing.  Europe, Australia, etc go the other way. 

Meh. Bowls and bongs are rather popular here. In my experience tobacco is far too harsh to add to most smoking devices.

My real point was that smoking marijuana straight does not make you a hardcore rasta, and is in fact the norm in a lot of places.

Your skinny straight marijuana joints don't really count. Can you even get high from that?

Uh.... yeah. Diluting a drug (adding tobacco) makes the drug less effective. As for smoking devices, I found out long ago that a joint is the biggest waste of weed that has ever been created. If I'm going to take the time to roll something up it is generally a blunt.

OM NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM BROWNIES.

I'm not a fan of joints, blunts aren't THAT much better. I like bowls, bongs, and hookahs.