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Marijuana
« on: June 28, 2010, 04:10:49 PM »
What's your thoughts on Marijuana?  :)

I think it is terrible and it should be banned. People think it's safe and cool right now (especially on the internet) but I think it's very bad for your lungs and brain (forgetfullness, schizophrenia, brain damage reduces IQ). They all say that it's different than other drugs (because it's a plant) but the truth is a lot of people that take it move on to other drugs too.

The whole culture of saying that it's good and it's medicinal and stuff like that sounds, to me, very dangerous.. because it could convince people who wouldn't otherwise even dare to try it.. And that could ruin their life (it has happened before). Maybe it's a scheme by dealers to get more customers? I'm not saying people who do it are bad just that the drug itsself is bad.

anyway it's a difficult topic and there are a lot of issues to it so what do you think?

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Re: Marijuana
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2010, 04:12:04 PM »
Any drug being illegal is stupid. It's not the government's place to protect people from themselves.
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« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2010, 04:13:47 PM »
Any drug being illegal is stupid. It's not the government's place to protect people from themselves.

Well I think it should be illegal (as well as tobacco).. don't have to put people in jail for having it but just make it illegal so people know it's not right to do it.

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« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2010, 04:15:16 PM »
make it illegal so people know it's not right to do it.

What makes it not right?
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« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2010, 04:15:23 PM »
Any drug being illegal is stupid. It's not the government's place to protect people from themselves.

Well I think it should be illegal (as well as tobacco).. don't have to put people in jail for having it but just make it illegal so people know it's not right to do it.

What makes it not right to do it? The fact that you don't like it?
I'm going to side with the white supremacists.

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« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2010, 04:20:25 PM »
Any drug being illegal is stupid. It's not the government's place to protect people from themselves.

Well I think it should be illegal (as well as tobacco).. don't have to put people in jail for having it but just make it illegal so people know it's not right to do it.

What makes it not right to do it? The fact that you don't like it?

well I explained some of my reasons... I'm waiting to hear other peoples opinions

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« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2010, 04:20:59 PM »
Any drug being illegal is stupid. It's not the government's place to protect people from themselves.

Well I think it should be illegal (as well as tobacco).. don't have to put people in jail for having it but just make it illegal so people know it's not right to do it.

What makes it not right to do it? The fact that you don't like it?

well I explained some of my reasons... I'm waiting to hear other peoples opinions

and it's not because I got told "drugs ar bad" it's because I think this myself.

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« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2010, 04:26:20 PM »
There are other, less harmful ways to consume marijuana than smoking.  I agree that smoking it is as bad for your health as smoking cigarettes, but I don't agree that it should be banned. Adults should be allowed to decide for themselves. 

Do you also think alcohol should be banned?
I'm sorry. Am I to understand that when you have a boner you like to imagine punching the shit out of Tom Bishop? That's disgusting.

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« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2010, 04:27:52 PM »
Marijuana, in moderation, is not so bad for the lungs, it hasn't been proven to contain carcinogenic substances. Mild short term memory loss can be a side affect, however, is usually mild. Marijuana use doesn't reduce your IQ either. Anyway, none of this matters. The government should not outlaw things that may harm us. Should they ban certain foods? Certain sports and activities?
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« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2010, 04:28:37 PM »
Darn. Space Cowgirl beat me to my thoughts. GET OUT OF MY HEAD!!

Anyways, I'm high right now. Although, I think I'm a bad example.

Walking away now....

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« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2010, 04:32:57 PM »
Mild short term memory loss can be a side affect, however, is usually mild.

Have you been smoking weed?

Also, buses can kill people if they collide with them while moving. Therefore, I propose that the government makes buses illegal.
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« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2010, 04:33:33 PM »
That was subtle, huh?
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« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2010, 04:34:39 PM »
Actually, I'm pretty sure there are carcinogens in marijuana smoke.  It can also cause emphysema. I still don't think it should be outlawed, though.  
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« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2010, 04:42:48 PM »
No cancer-marijuana connection doesn't mean there aren't carcinogenic hydrocarbons in the smoke. 
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« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2010, 04:49:03 PM »
Weed is bad and should stay outlawed.
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« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2010, 04:54:03 PM »
No cancer-marijuana connection doesn't mean there aren't carcinogenic hydrocarbons in the smoke. 

Yeah, I was just about to correct myself. Thanks, my mistake.
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« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2010, 04:57:06 PM »
I think nothing should be outlawed.
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« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2010, 05:08:49 PM »
Alcohol, tobacco, weed, and all non-medical drugs should be outlawed. People who ruin their lives can not help the state, and only hurt the state. The state, a compilation of the numerous individuals within a country, is inherently more important than anyone individual's thoughts or feelings.

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« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2010, 06:11:15 PM »
Any drug being illegal is stupid. It's not the government's place to protect people from themselves.

That's why we have laws.  If people were smart enough to protect themselves, we wouldn't have to have a legal drinking limit, seatbelt laws, or even laws against polluting the environment.  The problem is that not only are people stupid BUT they have a tendency to hurt others when they act stupid.

To me, any drug that is not designed to heal you or help you in any way AND alters your brain chemistry should be illegal.  Yes that includes alcohol.
Not only does it bring our general population's intelligence down when they hit the teen years BUT contrary to what you hear, Marijuana does lead to other, harder drugs in the same way that a pack of cigarettes a week can lead to 2 packs a day, and a few beers a week can lead to whiskey daily.  Why?
Tolerance.  When your body has some form of drug, be it medical or not, in your body often, you get used to it; You build a tolerance.  The same effect that was harmless before now doesn't do it for you so you go after more.  Few people have the ability to avoid this.  Hell, this happens with caffeine too!

I grew up in the weed capital of my little, apple orchard area.  I sat next to the weed supplier (he grew it himself) for the whole town during 9th grade math. 
He burned down his barn while high. 
Next, the girl I had a crush on?  Weed.  Promised me she'd NEVER do speed.  What happens?  She started taking speed.  Ended up breaking and entering for drug money.  Last I heard she was in jail.
And when you're on an LSD trip, you can do some fucked up shit.  Unprotected sex, self-inflicted injuries, abuse, rape, and who knows what else.

When you're not yourself, you never know who you'll be.
You have been ignored for common interest of mankind.

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« Reply #20 on: June 28, 2010, 06:16:28 PM »
I grew up in the weed capital of my little, apple orchard area.  I sat next to the weed supplier (he grew it himself) for the whole town during 9th grade math. 
He burned down his barn while high. 
Next, the girl I had a crush on?  Weed.  Promised me she'd NEVER do speed.  What happens?  She started taking speed.  Ended up breaking and entering for drug money.  Last I heard she was in jail.
And when you're on an LSD trip, you can do some fucked up shit.  Unprotected sex, self-inflicted injuries, abuse, rape, and who knows what else.

When you're not yourself, you never know who you'll be.

I don't know what to say that is such a sad story :( :'(

sorry that it had to happen to you, wishing all the best

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« Reply #21 on: June 28, 2010, 06:21:23 PM »
I grew up in the weed capital of my little, apple orchard area.  I sat next to the weed supplier (he grew it himself) for the whole town during 9th grade math. 
He burned down his barn while high. 
Next, the girl I had a crush on?  Weed.  Promised me she'd NEVER do speed.  What happens?  She started taking speed.  Ended up breaking and entering for drug money.  Last I heard she was in jail.
And when you're on an LSD trip, you can do some fucked up shit.  Unprotected sex, self-inflicted injuries, abuse, rape, and who knows what else.

Marijuana, speed and LSD are all illegal already, so I don't understand why you think them being illegal would fix anything. People are going to abuse them whether they're legal or not, all that changes if you make them illegal is that the people who take them recreationally and don't do stupid shit suddenly become criminals.

Some people drive irresponsibly and cause deaths on the road, does this mean we should ban all cars?
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« Reply #22 on: June 28, 2010, 06:24:58 PM »
Alcohol, tobacco, weed, and all non-medical drugs should be outlawed. People who ruin their lives can not help the state, and only hurt the state. The state, a compilation of the numerous individuals within a country, is inherently more important than anyone individual's thoughts or feelings.

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« Reply #23 on: June 28, 2010, 06:39:37 PM »
I grew up in the weed capital of my little, apple orchard area.  I sat next to the weed supplier (he grew it himself) for the whole town during 9th grade math. 
He burned down his barn while high. 
Next, the girl I had a crush on?  Weed.  Promised me she'd NEVER do speed.  What happens?  She started taking speed.  Ended up breaking and entering for drug money.  Last I heard she was in jail.
And when you're on an LSD trip, you can do some fucked up shit.  Unprotected sex, self-inflicted injuries, abuse, rape, and who knows what else.

When you're not yourself, you never know who you'll be.

I don't know what to say that is such a sad story :( :'(

sorry that it had to happen to you, wishing all the best

Worry not.  She wouldn't go out with me cause I wasn't a druggie, but that saved me since she had more STDs than a $3 hooker.


I grew up in the weed capital of my little, apple orchard area.  I sat next to the weed supplier (he grew it himself) for the whole town during 9th grade math. 
He burned down his barn while high. 
Next, the girl I had a crush on?  Weed.  Promised me she'd NEVER do speed.  What happens?  She started taking speed.  Ended up breaking and entering for drug money.  Last I heard she was in jail.
And when you're on an LSD trip, you can do some fucked up shit.  Unprotected sex, self-inflicted injuries, abuse, rape, and who knows what else.

Marijuana, speed and LSD are all illegal already, so I don't understand why you think them being illegal would fix anything. People are going to abuse them whether they're legal or not, all that changes if you make them illegal is that the people who take them recreationally and don't do stupid shit suddenly become criminals.

Some people drive irresponsibly and cause deaths on the road, does this mean we should ban all cars?

It keeps it behind closed doors. It keeps people from openly doing stupid shit.  Look at how often people get drunk and act like retards in public?  At least illegal the drugs are handled in back alleys and closed doors where they're less likely to hurt others.

Also it allows police to slow the supply.
Personally I'm a big fan of wiping out the marijuana plant as well as the tobacco plant.  But, alas, that's not going to happen.


I know your position on most enforcement "It's not working so get rid of it" but you're wrong.  You can never stop something completely but you can slow it down and that's all we can do.
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« Reply #24 on: June 28, 2010, 06:43:21 PM »
It keeps it behind closed doors. It keeps people from openly doing stupid shit.  Look at how often people get drunk and act like retards in public?  At least illegal the drugs are handled in back alleys and closed doors where they're less likely to hurt others.

Or, less likely for drug problems to be recognised until it's too late.
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« Reply #25 on: June 28, 2010, 06:47:53 PM »
It keeps it behind closed doors. It keeps people from openly doing stupid shit.  Look at how often people get drunk and act like retards in public?  At least illegal the drugs are handled in back alleys and closed doors where they're less likely to hurt others.

Or, less likely for drug problems to be recognised until it's too late.

By your reasoning, they'd do it anyway. 
Also, the public school system is full of people who know who does drugs.  It's really not hard to spot them, smell it on them, see the patterns, ect...
Know how successful intervention is? 
It's not.  It would be great if we could legally force them into a drug program or expel them from school but, alas, we can't do either very easily.
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« Reply #26 on: June 28, 2010, 06:53:47 PM »
It would be great if we could legally force them into a drug program or expel them from school

No, it wouldn't. People don't respond well to being forced into things, and denying them an education achieves nothing. What we need is a voluntary rehabilitation program, but with some kind of psychological incentive for people to sign up. They need to feel as if they're making the decision to enter it themselves; it needs to be legally, if not practically voluntary.
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« Reply #27 on: June 28, 2010, 06:58:42 PM »
Or, less likely for drug problems to be recognised until it's too late.
Any drug being illegal is stupid. It's not the government's place to protect people from themselves.

Make up your mind.  If the government shouldn't protect people form themselves then who cares if people have a drug problem?


Drugs should stay illegal. They destroy lives.  I will agree that some drugs are worse than others, but that doesn't mean anything.  I'm partly hypocritical because i enjoy alcohol but humans have been drinking alcohol for thousands of years, whether intentional or not. Maybe in a couple thousand years when a person can go to a meth bar and get high and then the next day be find, have all their teeth, and not steal for money, and so on, then I will change my opinion.

Cigarettes should also be banned.  They cost me a shit ton of money and I don't smoke. Rolling your own tobacco is a little better because it lacks some chemicals.  But stepping up to weed with THC falls on the paragraph above.  
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« Reply #28 on: June 28, 2010, 07:01:25 PM »
Make up your mind.  If the government shouldn't protect people form themselves then who cares if people have a drug problem?


Drugs should stay illegal. They destroy lives.  I will agree that some drugs are worse than others, but that doesn't mean anything.  I'm partly hypocritical because i enjoy alcohol but humans have been drinking alcohol for thousands of years, whether intentional or not. Maybe in a couple thousand years when a person can go to a meth bar and get high and then the next day be find, have all their teeth, and not steal for money, and so on, then I will change my opinion.

Cigarettes should also be banned.  They cost me a shit ton of money and I don't smoke. Rolling your own tobacco is a little better because it lacks some chemicals.  But stepping up to weed with THC falls on the paragraph above.

You are dumb and you post dumb things.
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« Reply #29 on: June 28, 2010, 07:05:43 PM »
I think we need a bigger box to contain all of you liberal freaks.