Flat Earth theories without conspiracy?

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Thork

Re: Flat Earth theories without conspiracy?
« Reply #90 on: September 20, 2010, 11:53:07 AM »
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Luckily I live far away from your flight corridor.

Give me your GPS Co-ords. I'll fly by at 45000'.


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Re: Flat Earth theories without conspiracy?
« Reply #91 on: September 20, 2010, 12:07:10 PM »
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Luckily I live far away from your flight corridor.

Give me your GPS Co-ords. I'll fly by at 45000'.


Sure, latitude 59.251114 longitude 27.556023. But be cautious at crossing the borders.
Rowbotham had bad eyesight
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http://thulescientific.com/Lynch%20Curvature%202008.pdf - Visually discerning the curvature of the Earth
http://thulescientific.com/TurbulentShipWakes_Lynch_AO_2005.pdf - Turbulent ship wakes:further evidence that the Earth is round.

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Thork

Re: Flat Earth theories without conspiracy?
« Reply #92 on: September 20, 2010, 12:11:55 PM »
Would you like a wing or some of the fuselage?

Re: Flat Earth theories without conspiracy?
« Reply #93 on: September 20, 2010, 12:17:07 PM »
From the wiki article posted above

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The FAA is concerned that as jet aircraft become more common, less experienced pilots will be flying those aircraft closer to the altitude of their coffin corners, and that catastrophic accidents will occur as a result

You see, more threats. Catastophic 'accidents' will occur. Its something the pilot community takes very seriously.

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Why do you think aren't every car designed to lift such weights as crane? Or why aren't every car designed in same time to race as the F1 car?
So its coincidence they are designed to operate 5000' feet below the stated altitude, you can allegedly see earth's curve. You guys love hiding behind coincidence.

learn how to use a camera and a weather balloon for less than 300 bucks
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Re: Flat Earth theories without conspiracy?
« Reply #94 on: September 20, 2010, 12:24:58 PM »

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learn how to use a camera and a weather balloon for less than 300 bucks
You can't just go launching balloons. Its Illegal!
I live in the UK. I would have to travel a very long way to find free airspace. Right now at home the limit above me is Flight Level 55. As I travel towards London that diminishes to just 2500 feet. Over London is no go full stop. Up towards Birmingham I get FL 105. 10500' isn't going to prove very much. Its all air-spaced off ... CLASS A only. Just adds more weight to the conspiracy I suppose.

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Re: Flat Earth theories without conspiracy?
« Reply #95 on: September 20, 2010, 12:25:49 PM »
passenger planes. ones where you can observe the shape of earth for yourself. Keep up. Before you bring up concorde read back through the thread

As a paying customer, you are a passenger in the back seat of a Mig observing the shape of the earth from an altitude greater than 20km.  I see no reason why military planes should be excluded from this discussion seeing as they are generally designed to fly higher than civilian aircraft.
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
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It is just the way it is, you understanding it doesn't concern me.

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Thork

Re: Flat Earth theories without conspiracy?
« Reply #96 on: September 20, 2010, 01:53:19 PM »
Do you know how those mig flights work? A paying customers pays for a flight. The pilot does not then just climb until very high and come down again. He runs through an aerobatic routine until the punter is sick. With nose in bag for the remainder of the flight you aint seeing very much of anything. Check this out. Not a mig but quite funny.



This is what you get. No trip to the edge of space. Just loops, rolls g-force and a small bag to take your lunch home in.
http://www.flymigsokol.com/flights/aerobatics-flight

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Thork

Re: Flat Earth theories without conspiracy?
« Reply #97 on: September 20, 2010, 01:57:00 PM »
Oh damn it. You do get a trip to the edge of space.

http://www.flymigsokol.com/flights/aerobatics-flight

Nevermind. Take one and tell me what you see. Stupid internet contradicting me at every turn. Its all part of the conspiracy you know.

Re: Flat Earth theories without conspiracy?
« Reply #98 on: September 20, 2010, 02:20:45 PM »
Oh damn it. You do get a trip to the edge of space.

http://www.flymigsokol.com/flights/aerobatics-flight

Nevermind. Take one and tell me what you see. Stupid internet contradicting me at every turn. Its all part of the conspiracy you know.

Why would I spend that much money when I can do it with a digital camera and a weather balloon?

Also, how much do you know about radar? This is a very important question btw ;)
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Re: Flat Earth theories without conspiracy?
« Reply #99 on: September 20, 2010, 02:26:03 PM »

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learn how to use a camera and a weather balloon for less than 300 bucks
You can't just go launching balloons. Its Illegal!
I live in the UK. I would have to travel a very long way to find free airspace. Right now at home the limit above me is Flight Level 55. As I travel towards London that diminishes to just 2500 feet. Over London is no go full stop. Up towards Birmingham I get FL 105. 10500' isn't going to prove very much. Its all air-spaced off ... CLASS A only. Just adds more weight to the conspiracy I suppose.

This is false, you can launch balloons through legal means. I believe the only states that have those laws are as follows:

Connecticut, Florida, Tennessee, New York, Texas, California and Virginia.
Cities of Ocean City, Maryland; Louisville; Huntsville, Ala.; San Francisco; and Baltimore.
Legislation is pending in other states including Massachusetts, Maryland, and New York.


 Do some research. And I would do it regardless lol.. It's highly unlikely the FEDS are going come knocking on my door for releasing a weather balloon and retrieving it unless it hits an airplane lol.
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Re: Flat Earth theories without conspiracy?
« Reply #100 on: September 20, 2010, 02:33:59 PM »
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Also, how much do you know about radar?
I know if I go somewhere I shouldn't at work, it grasses me up.

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This is false, you can launch balloons through legal means.
Not in the UK you can't. You need to get permission from the CAA with lots of prior notice so they can issue NOTAMs. Can you imagine if people just let off weather balloons willy-nilly and one ended up getting sucked into a jet engine passing overhead. Seriously, you need permission. If I told them it was because I was trying to prove the earth was flat, I suspect they would decline my enquiry. They are in on it too.

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And I would do it regardless lol
Is a £3000 infringement fine funny?

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Re: Flat Earth theories without conspiracy?
« Reply #101 on: September 20, 2010, 03:15:16 PM »
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This is false, you can launch balloons through legal means.
Not in the UK you can't. You need to get permission from the CAA with lots of prior notice so they can issue NOTAMs.
Like he said, you can do it through legal means.


If I told them it was because I was trying to prove the earth was flat, I suspect they would decline my enquiry.
Why would you tell them that you are trying to prove the earth flat?  Surely you can come up with a more conspiracy friendly reason for wanting to launch a high altitude weather balloon.  Tell them that you're researching global warming.
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
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It is just the way it is, you understanding it doesn't concern me.

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Thork

Re: Flat Earth theories without conspiracy?
« Reply #102 on: September 20, 2010, 03:25:52 PM »
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Like he said, you can do it through legal means.
The Met Office can. Some idiot who bought a balloon and spent $300 on a camera can't. They would say bog off. The balloon would also need to be tethered. They do this at Cardington hangars.

http://badc.nerc.ac.uk/data/cardington/
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Tell them that you're researching global warming.

I could tell them I want to watch my next door neighbour in the shower and would happily forward my research for their perusal, but they would still say no. The balloon idea is a non-starter.

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Re: Flat Earth theories without conspiracy?
« Reply #103 on: September 20, 2010, 03:42:27 PM »
Some idiot who bought a balloon and spent $300 on a camera can't.

It has been done, therefore it is possible.  How hard is that to understand?
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
Quote from: Robosteve
Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
Quote from: bullhorn
It is just the way it is, you understanding it doesn't concern me.

Re: Flat Earth theories without conspiracy?
« Reply #104 on: September 20, 2010, 07:06:58 PM »
What is the motive to cover up the shape of Earth?

Its like saying that WW2 started because Hitler broke up with Ignacy Moscicki, it just makes no sense at all.

Poor Ignacy..... he never let himself love again.....  ;)  ::)

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