If the world is Flat

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AdmiralAckbar

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If the world is Flat
« on: June 27, 2010, 12:55:55 PM »
If the world is flat why does a ship traveling on water from a beach look as though it is sinking?  :o
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Re: If the world is Flat
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2010, 01:13:29 PM »
It's a perspective effect.
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?

Re: If the world is Flat
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2010, 02:11:22 PM »
It's a perspective effect.

A fixed perspective causes things to appear smaller when further away, not lower::)
The only case where an object would appear to become lower would be if it was entirely higher than the PoV's vanishing point when it began, while things lower than the PoV's vanishing point appear to rise.  Things to the left begin moving right and things to the right begin moving left (seeing a pattern yet?).  When travelling in a line parallel to the PoV's line of sight, all objects appear to approach the vanishing point from wherever they are (they certainly DON'T cross it), and lessen in speed by their apparently closing proximity to it; this causes the effect of objects moving further away appearing to shrink.  You lose, roundy.

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Re: If the world is Flat
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2010, 02:26:42 PM »
It's a perspective effect.

A fixed perspective causes things to appear smaller when further away, not lower::)
The only case where an object would appear to become lower would be if it was entirely higher than the PoV's vanishing point when it began, while things lower than the PoV's vanishing point appear to rise.  Things to the left begin moving right and things to the right begin moving left (seeing a pattern yet?).  When travelling in a line parallel to the PoV's line of sight, all objects appear to approach the vanishing point from wherever they are (they certainly DON'T cross it), and lessen in speed by their apparently closing proximity to it; this causes the effect of objects moving further away appearing to shrink.  You lose, roundy.

That doesn't change that the official FE explanation is that it's a perspective effect.  Read ENaG for more info.  Of course, I favor the electromagnetic radiation explanation myself.
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?

Re: If the world is Flat
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2010, 02:30:29 PM »
[Read ENaG for more info.

Oh, that book that says objects travelling parallel to a line of sight can somehow pass the vanishing point and show up on the other side, which was exactly what I refuted?  Yeah, I've heard of it.

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Re: If the world is Flat
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2010, 02:31:03 PM »
[Read ENaG for more info.

Oh, that book that says objects travelling parallel to a line of sight can somehow pass the vanishing point and show up on the other side, which was exactly what I refuted?  Yeah, I've heard of it.

I'm glad.
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?

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Re: If the world is Flat
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2010, 03:37:50 PM »
It's a perspective effect.

A fixed perspective causes things to appear smaller when further away, not lower::)
The only case where an object would appear to become lower would be if it was entirely higher than the PoV's vanishing point when it began, while things lower than the PoV's vanishing point appear to rise.  Things to the left begin moving right and things to the right begin moving left (seeing a pattern yet?).  When travelling in a line parallel to the PoV's line of sight, all objects appear to approach the vanishing point from wherever they are (they certainly DON'T cross it), and lessen in speed by their apparently closing proximity to it; this causes the effect of objects moving further away appearing to shrink.  You lose, roundy.

That doesn't change that the official FE explanation is that it's a perspective effect.  Read ENaG for more info.  Of course, I favor the electromagnetic radiation explanation myself.

ENAG is wrong. with perspective, things shrink proportionally. you can still see the top of a ship. its the bottom you can't see

Re: If the world is Flat
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2010, 03:56:13 PM »
It's a perspective effect.

A fixed perspective causes things to appear smaller when further away, not lower.  ::)
The only case where an object would appear to become lower would be if it was entirely higher than the PoV's vanishing point when it began, while things lower than the PoV's vanishing point appear to rise.  Things to the left begin moving right and things to the right begin moving left (seeing a pattern yet?).  When travelling in a line parallel to the PoV's line of sight, all objects appear to approach the vanishing point from wherever they are (they certainly DON'T cross it), and lessen in speed by their apparently closing proximity to it; this causes the effect of objects moving further away appearing to shrink.  You lose, roundy.

That doesn't change that the official FE explanation is that it's a perspective effect.  Read ENaG for more info.  Of course, I favor the electromagnetic radiation explanation myself.

It doesn't matter what the official explanation is. The FE explanation has been demonstrated to be wrong, and as such the FE'er consensus should change.

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Re: If the world is Flat
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2010, 03:59:59 PM »
The OP asked a question, and I answered.

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Re: If the world is Flat
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2010, 04:23:42 PM »
Yeah never understood how a ship sinking into the horizon and you know, the inability to see every continent around you from the shore if the world is indeed flat.

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Re: If the world is Flat
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2010, 04:37:45 PM »
Yeah never understood how a ship sinking into the horizon and you know, the inability to see every continent around you from the shore if the world is indeed flat.

ENaG states that ships behave exactly as they appear.  Trains too.
But the explanation is "because it's so far away, our eyes can't see it so some of it vanishes... from the bottom up"

He never really explains it....

Re: If the world is Flat
« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2010, 05:20:41 PM »
So if we stand on our heads, they should disappear from their top to their bottom.
Maybe someone should try... oh wait, I forgot zetetics don't perform experiments.