Hope FErs can figure this one out.

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Hope FErs can figure this one out.
« on: June 24, 2010, 03:52:22 PM »
Hi,

I ran across an article featured on FOX News.

"Man captures pictures of Earth with near-space balloon"

I suppose the title explains itself; NASA wasn't involved with this.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4252598/out-of-this-world-images?playlist_id=86861

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Re: Hope FErs can figure this one out.
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2010, 04:07:56 PM »
How is this video related to the shape of the Earth?
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« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2010, 04:26:01 PM »
How is this video related to the shape of the Earth?

The mention of seeing the curvature of the earth; clearly you can see it, which I think should be good enough... no?

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« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2010, 04:31:44 PM »
Not at all. It just shows the circular shape of the Earth.
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« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2010, 08:14:05 AM »
How is this video related to the shape of the Earth?
Not at all. It just shows the circular shape of the Earth.

Are you arguing with yourself?

Anyways, the curvature would certainly indicate that the Earth is not flat... thanks for clearing that one up.

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Re: Hope FErs can figure this one out.
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2010, 08:20:06 AM »
That is great evidence that Pizzaplanet is either retarded or a troll.
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« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2010, 08:54:37 AM »
Thank you for your feedback, Catchpa. It is, as always, most appreciated. However, even though it saddens me greatly, I have to say "right back at you", or, alternatively, "pot, kettle, black". Similar topics have been discussed countless times with no proper explanations from RE'ers. If you do have a grand rebuttal, which for some reason you haven't used by now, I encourage you to bring it up. Due to the fact that asking you to use the search function simply won't work, please find a shortened answer below. Should you seek a more detailed one... oh well, search ftw.

Are you arguing with yourself?
No. I'm sorry for not making myself entirely clear. To further explain: a spherical and flat earth would both appear circular on two-dimensional pictures. Ergo, a two-dimensional picture is hardly relevant to the subject of the Earth's shape.

thanks for clearing that one up.
Clearing what up? I said it's circular. Circular and spherical are not the same thing.
« Last Edit: June 25, 2010, 09:08:28 AM by PizzaPlanet »
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« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2010, 09:04:46 AM »
That is great evidence that Pizzaplanet is either retarded or a troll.

False Dichotomy fallacy.

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« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2010, 09:07:13 AM »
That is great evidence that Pizzaplanet is either retarded or a troll.

False Dichotomy fallacy.
Plus ad hominem.
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« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2010, 09:57:13 AM »
That is great evidence that Pizzaplanet is either retarded or a troll.

False Dichotomy fallacy.
Plus ad hominem.

I never intended it as an argument to prove you wrong. It's true though.
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« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2010, 11:37:53 AM »
Where's Tom Bishop?  Shouldn't he be posting something about a "mug of cuppachino" or something in this thread?

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« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2010, 12:00:15 PM »
I suppose the title explains itself; NASA wasn't involved with this.

Lots of regular civilians claim to have been abducted by UFOs; should we blindly accept their testimony as well?
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?

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« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2010, 12:05:33 PM »
I suppose the title explains itself; NASA wasn't involved with this.

Lots of regular civilians claim to have been abducted by UFOs; should we blindly accept their testimony as well?
The difference being this is a repeatable(albeit expensive) photograph.

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« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2010, 12:13:53 PM »
I suppose the title explains itself; NASA wasn't involved with this.

Lots of regular civilians claim to have been abducted by UFOs; should we blindly accept their testimony as well?

Most people claiming to be abducted don't provide images to back their stories up.
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« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2010, 12:21:05 PM »
Lots of regular civilians claim to have been abducted by UFOs; should we blindly accept their testimony as well?

Well, I think that the ones that maintain their stories while under hypnosis and/or pass polygraph tests should be given some consideration.
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« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2010, 12:30:54 PM »
I never intended it as an argument to prove you wrong.
Apology accepted.

It's true though.
You're entitled to your opinion, but I already know what yours is. Do you have a reason to keep restating things over and over?

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Why would we even discuss the authenticity of these pictures? Real or not, they're worthless. I agree that these pictures show curvature. However, an edge of a circle is, shockingly, curved. So is a sphere. Both possibilities exist, and these particular pictures don't get us any closer to telling which one is right. This is exactly why I asked about their relevancy in my first response.
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Re: Hope FErs can figure this one out.
« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2010, 12:33:03 PM »
I suppose the title explains itself; NASA wasn't involved with this.

Lots of regular civilians claim to have been abducted by UFOs; should we blindly accept their testimony as well?

Most people claiming to be abducted don't provide images to back their stories up.

So we should only blindly trust the ones who do provide images of their flying saucers zipping away through the night sky then?
Where did you educate the biology, in toulet?

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« Reply #17 on: June 25, 2010, 12:38:16 PM »
I suppose the title explains itself; NASA wasn't involved with this.

Lots of regular civilians claim to have been abducted by UFOs; should we blindly accept their testimony as well?

Most people claiming to be abducted don't provide images to back their stories up.

So we should only blindly trust the ones who do provide images of their flying saucers zipping away through the night sky then?

If the images can't be shown to be faked, sure, why not? And it isn't blind trust if there is evidence to back it up.
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« Reply #18 on: June 25, 2010, 12:48:36 PM »
If the images can't be shown to be faked, sure, why not? And it isn't blind trust if there is evidence to back it up.
As you said, it is when the evidence is credible.
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Re: Hope FErs can figure this one out.
« Reply #19 on: June 25, 2010, 03:15:17 PM »
That is great evidence that Pizzaplanet is either retarded or a troll.

False Dichotomy fallacy.
Plus ad hominem.

My god this is turning into a flame war

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« Reply #20 on: June 25, 2010, 03:48:18 PM »
Hi,

I ran across an article featured on FOX News.

"Man captures pictures of Earth with near-space balloon"

I suppose the title explains itself; NASA wasn't involved with this.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4252598/out-of-this-world-images?playlist_id=86861

A similar distortion can be created with a slight fish-eye lens.

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« Reply #21 on: June 25, 2010, 03:49:30 PM »
Hi,

I ran across an article featured on FOX News.

"Man captures pictures of Earth with near-space balloon"

I suppose the title explains itself; NASA wasn't involved with this.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4252598/out-of-this-world-images?playlist_id=86861

A similar distortion can be created with a slight fish-eye lens.
well its a good thing they didn't use one.

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« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2010, 06:45:28 PM »
Any lens, and particularly a wide-angle lens, will produce barrel distortion.   This, however, probably isn't in play here.  The negligible curvature shown is just as consistent with a the edge of a disc seen at altitude.  It certainly doesn't look like a sphere to me by any stretch of the imagination.
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Re: Hope FErs can figure this one out.
« Reply #23 on: June 26, 2010, 08:47:00 PM »
That is great evidence that Pizzaplanet is either retarded or a troll.

False Dichotomy fallacy.
Plus ad hominem.

My god this is turning into a flame war
It always to seem to turn into a flame war whenever Catchpa enters a thread. He seems to have an insistant need to stir shit up.

Hi,

I ran across an article featured on FOX News.

"Man captures pictures of Earth with near-space balloon"

I suppose the title explains itself; NASA wasn't involved with this.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4252598/out-of-this-world-images?playlist_id=86861

A similar distortion can be created with a slight fish-eye lens.
well its a good thing they didn't use one.
Does it say what type of lens he used by chance?
« Last Edit: June 28, 2010, 07:03:28 AM by EnglshGentleman »

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« Reply #24 on: June 27, 2010, 05:38:53 AM »
The negligible curvature shown is just as consistent with a the edge of a disc seen at altitude.

Sometimes its the edge of the disk, sometimes its the edge of the spotlight sun, sometimes its fake and sometimes its a lense. I wish you guise could decide.

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« Reply #25 on: June 27, 2010, 07:35:12 AM »
I wish there was one easy answer to all your questions in life too.
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« Reply #26 on: June 27, 2010, 11:11:00 AM »
I wish there was one easy answer to all your questions in life too.
well we don't have an answer for everything, but when it comes to observed phenomena on Earth, when you take its shape as round, all of the problems go away.

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« Reply #27 on: June 27, 2010, 02:08:59 PM »
I wish there was one easy answer to all your questions in life too.
well we don't have an answer for everything, but when it comes to observed phenomena on Earth, when you take its shape as round, all of the problems go away.
Except the most obvious one, being the shape.
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« Reply #28 on: June 27, 2010, 02:13:15 PM »
I wish there was one easy answer to all your questions in life too.

Sweet! But that's not what we're asking you for. :(

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« Reply #29 on: June 27, 2010, 03:43:06 PM »
I wish there was one easy answer to all your questions in life too.
well we don't have an answer for everything, but when it comes to observed phenomena on Earth, when you take its shape as round, all of the problems go away.
Except the most obvious one, being the shape.

*facepalm*
nope that one was found to be round. NASA.
and anyway, we're talking about the data and observations. there is nothing you can do right now to prove the earth flat and be correct.