Evidences that the Earth is, indeed flat!

  • 57 Replies
  • 9871 Views
?

Irrational Scholar

Evidences that the Earth is, indeed flat!
« on: June 23, 2010, 03:41:33 AM »
Give me some evidences!  Sorry, I know I'm lacking info.
« Last Edit: June 23, 2010, 03:43:54 AM by Irrational Scholar »

*

Johannes

  • Flat Earth Editor
  • 2755
Re: Evidences that the Earth is, indeed flat!
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2010, 09:12:04 PM »
Read the FAQ, the Wiki and ENAG

?

Thevoiceofreason

  • 1792
  • Bendy Truth specialist
Re: Evidences that the Earth is, indeed flat!
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2010, 10:35:20 PM »
Read the FAQ, the Wiki and ENAG
So far the FAQ and the Wiki only attempt to show how the earth could be flat. only ENAG tries to prove it, and it fails.
for sport, let take the bit in ENAG  about polaris for example as to how it even fails at showing how the earth could be flat.

ENAG says that the reason why you see Polaris going to the horizon is due to perspective. This is idiotic. Polaris is approximately above the north pole, so it is on a line normal to the surface of the Earth. with modern science, we know that polaris is 430 light years away from Earth. If we were to stand at the flat earths equator (a couple of light miliseconds) the difference in perceived angular position would be monumentally small. even if we were to ignore the 430light year figure (which would be circular reasoning to do so) lets work the problem with a very reasonable number, say 3000km. the FE distance from pole to equator is 10,000km. So, if the opposite leg of our triangle is 3000km, and our base leg is 10,000km, then the apparent angle in the sky is Arctan(3/10) which is over 17degrees.
This is one of many examples of how he brings up phenoma to explain contradictions, but fails to verify the plausibility

?

Irrational Scholar

Re: Evidences that the Earth is, indeed flat!
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2010, 02:53:56 AM »
You can observe, with binoculars, ships slowly 'sinking' below the horizon as it sails farther and farther out to the ocean, then watch them come back. They certainly didn't fall off the edge of the earth! You can also sail or fly around the world.
« Last Edit: June 24, 2010, 02:58:27 AM by Irrational Scholar »

*

Parsifal

  • Official Member
  • 36118
  • Bendy Light specialist
Re: Evidences that the Earth is, indeed flat!
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2010, 05:45:16 AM »
You can observe, with binoculars, ships slowly 'sinking' below the horizon as it sails farther and farther out to the ocean, then watch them come back.

Please provide evidence that the ship which comes back is the same as the one that left.
I'm going to side with the white supremacists.

Re: Evidences that the Earth is, indeed flat!
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2010, 06:52:22 AM »
You can observe, with binoculars, ships slowly 'sinking' below the horizon as it sails farther and farther out to the ocean, then watch them come back.

Please provide evidence that the ship which comes back is the same as the one that left.

Keep low content trolling out of the upper fora.

I have watched land disappear below the horizon from a boat, so it stands to reason that an observer on land would have seen the boat i was on sink below the horizon.

I came back on that same boat. Prove i didn't.

?

Crustinator

  • 7813
  • Bamhammer horror!
Re: Evidences that the Earth is, indeed flat!
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2010, 07:50:38 AM »
Please provide evidence that the ship which comes back is the same as the one that left.

Unfunny troll is old and toothless...

But I don't see any proof that the arriving ship is the same vessel as the departing one.

My argument is that the ships which appear to sink are actually sinking. I have yet to be proven wrong.

As I have said numerous times, there is plenty of evidence that the boats actually did sink, because people watched them sink.
.
.
.

?

Thevoiceofreason

  • 1792
  • Bendy Truth specialist
Re: Evidences that the Earth is, indeed flat!
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2010, 02:06:38 PM »
Please provide evidence that the ship which comes back is the same as the one that left.

Unfunny troll is old and toothless...

But I don't see any proof that the arriving ship is the same vessel as the departing one.

My argument is that the ships which appear to sink are actually sinking. I have yet to be proven wrong.

As I have said numerous times, there is plenty of evidence that the boats actually did sink, because people watched them sink.
.
.
.

Parifal has turned into the official troll. what happened to bendy light? did he get bored of being a bad scientist?

Re: Evidences that the Earth is, indeed flat!
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2010, 06:38:47 PM »
Lol, for FET you have to question the objective reality of the external world and the power of properly basic beliefs.

*

Parsifal

  • Official Member
  • 36118
  • Bendy Light specialist
Re: Evidences that the Earth is, indeed flat!
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2010, 09:19:05 PM »
I have watched land disappear below the horizon from a boat, so it stands to reason that an observer on land would have seen the boat i was on sink below the horizon.

You don't seem to have a very clear grasp of what reason is. The only reasonable conclusion one may draw from that is that the land actually did sink into the water.
I'm going to side with the white supremacists.

*

Johannes

  • Flat Earth Editor
  • 2755
Re: Evidences that the Earth is, indeed flat!
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2010, 10:35:29 PM »

Re: Evidences that the Earth is, indeed flat!
« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2010, 01:01:24 AM »
I have watched land disappear below the horizon from a boat, so it stands to reason that an observer on land would have seen the boat i was on sink below the horizon.

You don't seem to have a very clear grasp of what reason is. The only reasonable conclusion one may draw from that is that the land actually did sink into the water.

So you think a reasonable explanation to what i witnessed, is that the land sank into the sea when we sailed away, then popped back up when we came back. And no-one on land noticed this?

If you think i don't have a very clear grasp of what reason is, it's plain you don't have a very clear grasp on reality and logic.

?

Thevoiceofreason

  • 1792
  • Bendy Truth specialist
Re: Evidences that the Earth is, indeed flat!
« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2010, 01:19:26 AM »
I have watched land disappear below the horizon from a boat, so it stands to reason that an observer on land would have seen the boat i was on sink below the horizon.

You don't seem to have a very clear grasp of what reason is. The only reasonable conclusion one may draw from that is that the land actually did sink into the water.

So you think a reasonable explanation to what i witnessed, is that the land sank into the sea when we sailed away, then popped back up when we came back. And no-one on land noticed this?

If you think i don't have a very clear grasp of what reason is, it's plain you don't have a very clear grasp on reality and logic.

don't feed the trolls, he won't stop I've tried. he never sleeps

Re: Evidences that the Earth is, indeed flat!
« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2010, 02:14:06 AM »
Give me some evidences!  Sorry, I know I'm lacking info.
http://flatearthlogic.webs.com/hundredproofs.htm

Why keep posting this ancient nonsense? It has been destroyed a hundred times over. Sam Robo doesn't even understand angular momentum or parabolas.

Re: Evidences that the Earth is, indeed flat!
« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2010, 02:24:21 AM »
You can observe, with binoculars, ships slowly 'sinking' below the horizon as it sails farther and farther out to the ocean, then watch them come back. They certainly didn't fall off the edge of the earth! You can also sail or fly around the world.

You know what's funny? One of the 100 proofs that EnaG is that sometimes people claim that the world can be sailed around. Since a flat earth could also be sailed around, Rowbottom seems to think that the fact that people claim the earth can be sailed around and that therefore it is round is proof that it is not. Some sound, sound logic there.

?

Crustinator

  • 7813
  • Bamhammer horror!
Re: Evidences that the Earth is, indeed flat!
« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2010, 02:27:08 AM »
The only reasonable conclusion one may draw from that is that the land actually did sink into the water.

You don't seem to have a very clear grasp of what reason is.

Fixed.


*

PizzaPlanet

  • 12260
  • Now available in stereo

*

Slemon

  • Flat Earth Researcher
  • 12330
Re: Evidences that the Earth is, indeed flat!
« Reply #18 on: June 25, 2010, 08:15:13 AM »
We all know deep in our hearts that Jane is the last face we'll see before we're choked to death!

*

Johannes

  • Flat Earth Editor
  • 2755
Re: Evidences that the Earth is, indeed flat!
« Reply #19 on: June 25, 2010, 11:42:36 PM »
Give me some evidences!  Sorry, I know I'm lacking info.
http://flatearthlogic.webs.com/hundredproofs.htm

Why keep posting this ancient nonsense? It has been destroyed a hundred times over. Sam Robo doesn't even understand angular momentum or parabolas.
No, it hasn't

?

Crustinator

  • 7813
  • Bamhammer horror!
Re: Evidences that the Earth is, indeed flat!
« Reply #20 on: June 26, 2010, 09:15:13 AM »
No, it hasn't

Yes it has. Considering it was written about 125 years ago, it's been shredded so many times it's barely recognisable.

Have you even read that stuff? It's the babbling of an insane Biblical literalist.

*

Johannes

  • Flat Earth Editor
  • 2755
Re: Evidences that the Earth is, indeed flat!
« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2010, 09:57:17 PM »
No, it hasn't

Yes it has. Considering it was written about 125 years ago, it's been shredded so many times it's barely recognisable.

Have you even read that stuff? It's the babbling of an insane Biblical literalist.
Crustinator, I challenge you to find me even 50 disproves of the 100 proofs in this book.

?

sillyrob

  • Official Member
  • 3771
  • Punk rawk.
Re: Evidences that the Earth is, indeed flat!
« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2010, 11:40:06 PM »
No, it hasn't

Yes it has. Considering it was written about 125 years ago, it's been shredded so many times it's barely recognisable.

Have you even read that stuff? It's the babbling of an insane Biblical literalist.
Crustinator, I challenge you to find me even 50 disproves of the 100 proofs in this book.
I challenge you to find writing about the Earth being flat written after 1950 and wasn't done by someone on this website.

?

Crustinator

  • 7813
  • Bamhammer horror!
Re: Evidences that the Earth is, indeed flat!
« Reply #23 on: June 27, 2010, 05:33:57 AM »
Crustinator, I challenge you to find me even 50 disproves of the 100 proofs in this book.

I suspect the search function might be of benefit.

And again, have you even read them?! For Gods sake they disprove themselves!...

Quote
3. Surveyors' operations in the construction of railroads, tunnels, or canals are conducted without the slightest "allowance" being made for "curvature," although it is taught that this so-called allowance is absolutely necessary! This is a cutting proof that Earth is not a globe.


*

Johannes

  • Flat Earth Editor
  • 2755
Re: Evidences that the Earth is, indeed flat!
« Reply #24 on: June 27, 2010, 10:59:26 AM »
Crustinator, I challenge you to find me even 50 disproves of the 100 proofs in this book.

I suspect the search function might be of benefit.

And again, have you even read them?! For Gods sake they disprove themselves!...

Quote
3. Surveyors' operations in the construction of railroads, tunnels, or canals are conducted without the slightest "allowance" being made for "curvature," although it is taught that this so-called allowance is absolutely necessary! This is a cutting proof that Earth is not a globe.



All of the 100 proofs have been successfully defended on this website...

That proof you selected makes perfect sense, and is a valid proof.

?

Thevoiceofreason

  • 1792
  • Bendy Truth specialist
Re: Evidences that the Earth is, indeed flat!
« Reply #25 on: June 27, 2010, 12:01:19 PM »
No, it hasn't

Yes it has. Considering it was written about 125 years ago, it's been shredded so many times it's barely recognisable.

Have you even read that stuff? It's the babbling of an insane Biblical literalist.
Crustinator, I challenge you to find me even 50 disproves of the 100 proofs in this book.

well I have one against ENAG, its on the first page, but u never responded.
and on number 3. what?
you do know that they would have no instrument to adjust for curvature of that level. and wood and steel are elastic enough to bend to the shape of the earth with gravity as the only force

?

Crustinator

  • 7813
  • Bamhammer horror!
Re: Evidences that the Earth is, indeed flat!
« Reply #26 on: June 27, 2010, 03:01:30 PM »
That proof you selected makes perfect sense, and is a valid proof.

You know there's a minimum amount of intelligence required to keep a thread afloat.

Re: Evidences that the Earth is, indeed flat!
« Reply #27 on: June 27, 2010, 03:34:49 PM »
All of the 100 proofs have been successfully defended on this website...

How do you defend this?

Quote
17. Human beings require a surface on which to live that, in its general character, shall be LEVEL; and since the Omniscient Creator must have been perfectly acquainted with the requirements of His creatures, it follows that, being an All-wise Creator, He has met them thoroughly. This is a theological proof that the Earth is not a globe.

The argument goes that the earth should be flat, therefore it is. How idiotic.

*

Parsifal

  • Official Member
  • 36118
  • Bendy Light specialist
Re: Evidences that the Earth is, indeed flat!
« Reply #28 on: June 27, 2010, 05:29:51 PM »
So you think a reasonable explanation to what i witnessed, is that the land sank into the sea when we sailed away, then popped back up when we came back. And no-one on land noticed this?

Why wouldn't they have noticed it?
I'm going to side with the white supremacists.

?

Thevoiceofreason

  • 1792
  • Bendy Truth specialist
Re: Evidences that the Earth is, indeed flat!
« Reply #29 on: June 27, 2010, 05:34:26 PM »
All of the 100 proofs have been successfully defended on this website...

How do you defend this?

Quote
17. Human beings require a surface on which to live that, in its general character, shall be LEVEL; and since the Omniscient Creator must have been perfectly acquainted with the requirements of His creatures, it follows that, being an All-wise Creator, He has met them thoroughly. This is a theological proof that the Earth is not a globe.

The argument goes that the earth should be flat, therefore it is. How idiotic.

Yeah that's an argument ad naturam: it is natural therefore it is correct. And last time I checked, level means the surface is normal to gravity, which it is. further more it is more natural to have a geoid because that's what gravity or any other attractive force would produce on such levels