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Why falling from an edge? Why not an infinite plane to explore forever?

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Clueless_Skeptic

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Why falling from an edge? Why not an infinite plane to explore forever?
« on: June 23, 2010, 11:14:31 AM »
I was wondering about some things that people believed in the past and why those specific things.

Ok. If you stand on ground and you don't know anything about space as in the past, it would be quite normal to thing that the earth is a plane not a sphere. You would even think someone is a radical conspiracy theorist at those times if he proposed a spherical earth theory.

Then I wondered about something else. Everyone in the past that believed in the flat earth also believed that there is an edge in this flat earth, that if ships went over gibraltar for example then the ships would fall into the void.

My question is, why this particular version of flat earth? Why not an infinite plane theory. Because I think that in history I always heard about the edgy flat earth and never of an infinite plane. Why did they never thought about it? Or were there some people in history thinking about this? It's very fascinating, an endless plane where you can travel and travel forever and explore new worlds, new people, new cultures. It's similar to the vastness of space but a more convenient vastness of a plane, a bliss for explorers. Maybe travelling 5000000km far in one direction you could even find creatures evolved differently, animals or intelligent beings that doesn't look like us, and there would be more marvels to explore. It's like exploration in space but now it's more convenient, in space we haven't even gone out of the solar system, distances are vast, but in an infinite plane earth there would be always new lands and cultures and civilizations and entities to discover in a vastness of an infinite plane?

So, ok people believed in flat earth in the past not a sphere, but the major belief was also that there is an edge and you fall. Why haven't I heard about a belief on a vast infinite plane proposed in history? Or was there really one? But it could not be popular because I never heard it, just thought it..

Nowadays flat earth believers, what do you believe? Is there an edge? Is there an invisible wall? Or are is there a vast plane with even more new lands and entities to discover?
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Eddy Baby

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Re: Why falling from an edge? Why not an infinite plane to explore forever?
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2010, 11:54:44 AM »
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Re: Why falling from an edge? Why not an infinite plane to explore forever?
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2010, 07:13:35 PM »
Quote from: Tom Bishop on November 28, 2009, 11:50:48 PM
It can't be proven that the earth is an infinite plane.
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Re: Why falling from an edge? Why not an infinite plane to explore forever?
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2010, 09:10:06 PM »
Quote from: markjo on June 23, 2010, 07:13:35 PM
Quote from: Tom Bishop on November 28, 2009, 11:50:48 PM
It can't be proven that the earth is an infinite plane.

Very true. At what point would you know that you just haven't travelled far enough? It can't be decided.
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Thevoiceofreason

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Re: Why falling from an edge? Why not an infinite plane to explore forever?
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2010, 10:37:11 PM »
Quote from: EnglshGentleman on June 23, 2010, 09:10:06 PM
Quote from: markjo on June 23, 2010, 07:13:35 PM
Quote from: Tom Bishop on November 28, 2009, 11:50:48 PM
It can't be proven that the earth is an infinite plane.

Very true. At what point would you know that you just haven't travelled far enough? It can't be decided.

Well thats not exactly true...
If gravity exists and the world is flat, then it must be infinite.
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Re: Why falling from an edge? Why not an infinite plane to explore forever?
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2010, 07:12:47 AM »
Nothing can be proven.

However there are many ways to indirectly prove the earth is an infinite plane.  The easiest is to use an accelerometer.
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Re: Why falling from an edge? Why not an infinite plane to explore forever?
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2010, 09:23:04 AM »
Quote from: John Davis on June 24, 2010, 07:12:47 AM
Nothing can be proven.

However there are many ways to indirectly prove the earth is an infinite plane.  The easiest is to use an accelerometer.

Can you use an accelerometer to tell the difference between an infinite plane and a round earth?  If so, then how would you propose to do so?
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Re: Why falling from an edge? Why not an infinite plane to explore forever?
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2010, 09:34:22 AM »
Quote from: markjo on June 24, 2010, 09:23:04 AM
Quote from: John Davis on June 24, 2010, 07:12:47 AM
Nothing can be proven.

However there are many ways to indirectly prove the earth is an infinite plane.  The easiest is to use an accelerometer.

Can you use an accelerometer to tell the difference between an infinite plane and a round earth?  If so, then how would you propose to do so?
Yes, simply measure the difference in gravitational pull at higher altitudes taking into account local geography and the pull of the heavens (which can be calculated easily using similar methods.)
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Re: Why falling from an edge? Why not an infinite plane to explore forever?
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2010, 02:05:05 PM »
Quote from: John Davis on June 24, 2010, 09:34:22 AM
Quote from: markjo on June 24, 2010, 09:23:04 AM
Quote from: John Davis on June 24, 2010, 07:12:47 AM
Nothing can be proven.

However there are many ways to indirectly prove the earth is an infinite plane.  The easiest is to use an accelerometer.

Can you use an accelerometer to tell the difference between an infinite plane and a round earth?  If so, then how would you propose to do so?
Yes, simply measure the difference in gravitational pull at higher altitudes taking into account local geography and the pull of the heavens (which can be calculated easily using similar methods.)

Taking into account forces whose magnitude we have no idea you mean. So basically you are saying that when we do find variance, we automatically attribute it to local geography and heavenly bodies. That isn't science. I'd rather just use GRACE and be done with it
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Re: Why falling from an edge? Why not an infinite plane to explore forever?
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2010, 05:33:51 PM »
Quote from: Thevoiceofreason on June 24, 2010, 02:05:05 PM
Quote from: John Davis on June 24, 2010, 09:34:22 AM
Quote from: markjo on June 24, 2010, 09:23:04 AM
Quote from: John Davis on June 24, 2010, 07:12:47 AM
Nothing can be proven.

However there are many ways to indirectly prove the earth is an infinite plane.  The easiest is to use an accelerometer.

Can you use an accelerometer to tell the difference between an infinite plane and a round earth?  If so, then how would you propose to do so?
Yes, simply measure the difference in gravitational pull at higher altitudes taking into account local geography and the pull of the heavens (which can be calculated easily using similar methods.)

Taking into account forces whose magnitude we have no idea you mean. So basically you are saying that when we do find variance, we automatically attribute it to local geography and heavenly bodies. That isn't science. I'd rather just use GRACE and be done with it

I didn't say that at all.
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Thevoiceofreason

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Re: Why falling from an edge? Why not an infinite plane to explore forever?
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2010, 06:52:34 PM »
Quote from: John Davis on June 24, 2010, 05:33:51 PM
Quote from: Thevoiceofreason on June 24, 2010, 02:05:05 PM
Quote from: John Davis on June 24, 2010, 09:34:22 AM
Quote from: markjo on June 24, 2010, 09:23:04 AM
Quote from: John Davis on June 24, 2010, 07:12:47 AM
Nothing can be proven.

However there are many ways to indirectly prove the earth is an infinite plane.  The easiest is to use an accelerometer.

Can you use an accelerometer to tell the difference between an infinite plane and a round earth?  If so, then how would you propose to do so?
Yes, simply measure the difference in gravitational pull at higher altitudes taking into account local geography and the pull of the heavens (which can be calculated easily using similar methods.)

Taking into account forces whose magnitude we have no idea you mean. So basically you are saying that when we do find variance, we automatically attribute it to local geography and heavenly bodies. That isn't science. I'd rather just use GRACE and be done with it

I didn't say that at all.

ok, so are you saying that any experiments with accelerometers have proven the flat plane? and if you believe that the Apollo mission was real, what do you think of GRACE?
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Re: Why falling from an edge? Why not an infinite plane to explore forever?
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2010, 11:41:23 PM »
Quote from: Thevoiceofreason on June 24, 2010, 06:52:34 PM
Quote from: John Davis on June 24, 2010, 05:33:51 PM
Quote from: Thevoiceofreason on June 24, 2010, 02:05:05 PM
Quote from: John Davis on June 24, 2010, 09:34:22 AM
Quote from: markjo on June 24, 2010, 09:23:04 AM
Quote from: John Davis on June 24, 2010, 07:12:47 AM
Nothing can be proven.

However there are many ways to indirectly prove the earth is an infinite plane.  The easiest is to use an accelerometer.

Can you use an accelerometer to tell the difference between an infinite plane and a round earth?  If so, then how would you propose to do so?
Yes, simply measure the difference in gravitational pull at higher altitudes taking into account local geography and the pull of the heavens (which can be calculated easily using similar methods.)

Taking into account forces whose magnitude we have no idea you mean. So basically you are saying that when we do find variance, we automatically attribute it to local geography and heavenly bodies. That isn't science. I'd rather just use GRACE and be done with it

I didn't say that at all.

ok, so are you saying that any experiments with accelerometers have proven the flat plane? and if you believe that the Apollo mission was real, what do you think of GRACE?
GRACE measures gravitational pulls at the same altitude.
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Thevoiceofreason

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Re: Why falling from an edge? Why not an infinite plane to explore forever?
« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2010, 12:33:17 AM »
Quote from: John Davis on June 24, 2010, 11:41:23 PM
Quote from: Thevoiceofreason on June 24, 2010, 06:52:34 PM
Quote from: John Davis on June 24, 2010, 05:33:51 PM
Quote from: Thevoiceofreason on June 24, 2010, 02:05:05 PM
Quote from: John Davis on June 24, 2010, 09:34:22 AM
Quote from: markjo on June 24, 2010, 09:23:04 AM
Quote from: John Davis on June 24, 2010, 07:12:47 AM
Nothing can be proven.

However there are many ways to indirectly prove the earth is an infinite plane.  The easiest is to use an accelerometer.

Can you use an accelerometer to tell the difference between an infinite plane and a round earth?  If so, then how would you propose to do so?
Yes, simply measure the difference in gravitational pull at higher altitudes taking into account local geography and the pull of the heavens (which can be calculated easily using similar methods.)

Taking into account forces whose magnitude we have no idea you mean. So basically you are saying that when we do find variance, we automatically attribute it to local geography and heavenly bodies. That isn't science. I'd rather just use GRACE and be done with it

I didn't say that at all.

ok, so are you saying that any experiments with accelerometers have proven the flat plane? and if you believe that the Apollo mission was real, what do you think of GRACE?
GRACE measures gravitational pulls at the same altitude.

And? I was referring to the shape of the field: http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/GRACE/page3.php
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Re: Why falling from an edge? Why not an infinite plane to explore forever?
« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2010, 01:02:04 AM »
They are mapping it to a globe since they think the Earth is a globe, yes.
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Re: Why falling from an edge? Why not an infinite plane to explore forever?
« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2010, 01:18:10 AM »
Quote from: John Davis on June 25, 2010, 01:02:04 AM
They are mapping it to a globe since they think the Earth is a globe, yes.
it is orbiting a globe, yes. the data isn't bendable either. they get silvers, which are like orange slices, tapered at the end
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Re: Why falling from an edge? Why not an infinite plane to explore forever?
« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2010, 01:24:14 AM »
Quote from: Thevoiceofreason on June 25, 2010, 01:18:10 AM
Quote from: John Davis on June 25, 2010, 01:02:04 AM
They are mapping it to a globe since they think the Earth is a globe, yes.
it is orbiting a globe, yes. the data isn't bendable either. they get silvers, which are like orange slices, tapered at the end
Referring to data in terms of "bendable" makes no sense.  They get accelerometer readings.  They piece them together based on where they think they are above a supposedly round earth.
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