2010 FIFA World Cup

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Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup
« Reply #270 on: July 03, 2010, 09:40:00 AM »
Something must be done to stop these Germans.

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« Reply #271 on: July 03, 2010, 09:41:10 AM »
The Germans literally must be stopped.

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« Reply #272 on: July 03, 2010, 09:42:30 AM »
Damn Nazis better get out in the next round. Yes, all Germans are Nazis.

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« Reply #273 on: July 03, 2010, 09:44:04 AM »
I've been sharing banter with a German since the beginning of the tournament. Now it's just not fucking funny any more.

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« Reply #274 on: July 03, 2010, 10:36:58 AM »
I wanted Germany to score more to punish the Argentinians for their uninspiring defense. For instance, Schweinsteiger had absolutely no difficulty running the ball into the Argentine penalty area and delivering it to Klose for a great finish. After witnessing Argentina's performance against Mexico, I expected this would happen.

I love how whenever your beloved team loses it's always because of cheating or a bad ref call. Ever think that maybe, just maybe, the opposing team won fair and square?
Well, I have to say Suarez's conduct was not very sportsmanlike. It would have been Ghana 2 : 1 Uruguay had he decided not to blocked the ball intentionally with his hands. Since he decided to do so, the ball failed to go into the net and Gyan was forced to take a penalty kick instead.

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« Reply #275 on: July 03, 2010, 10:52:29 AM »
I wanted Germany to score more to punish the Argentinians for their uninspiring defense. For instance, Schweinsteiger had absolutely no difficulty running the ball into the Argentine penalty area and delivering it to Klose for a great finish. After witnessing Argentina's performance against Mexico, I expected this would happen.

I love how whenever your beloved team loses it's always because of cheating or a bad ref call. Ever think that maybe, just maybe, the opposing team won fair and square?
Well, I have to say Suarez's conduct was not very sportsmanlike. It would have been Ghana 2 : 1 Uruguay had he decided not to blocked the ball intentionally with his hands. Since he decided to do so, the ball failed to go into the net and Gyan was forced to take a penalty kick instead.

It was a professional foul and he was punished by getting a red card, giving away a penalty and getting banned from the next match. It was a tactical move which ANY player would have done in that situation.

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« Reply #276 on: July 03, 2010, 10:57:18 AM »
Of course, it depends if you want to win honestly or not.

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« Reply #277 on: July 03, 2010, 11:03:13 AM »
Of course, it depends if you want to win honestly or not.

There's no honesty in football :(

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« Reply #278 on: July 03, 2010, 11:06:25 AM »
GOD DAMMIT ALL there should be

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« Reply #279 on: July 03, 2010, 11:09:45 AM »
It was a professional foul and he was punished by getting a red card, giving away a penalty and getting banned from the next match. It was a tactical move which ANY player would have done in that situation.
Yes, in such a tight situation, any player would have done the same. My point is Suarez did not respect the rules of the game. We can say he was heroic by sacrificing himself for his team, but he still committed an act of dishonesty regardless. The punishments do not justify his act.

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« Reply #280 on: July 03, 2010, 11:21:41 AM »
It was a professional foul and he was punished by getting a red card, giving away a penalty and getting banned from the next match. It was a tactical move which ANY player would have done in that situation.
Yes, in such a tight situation, any player would have done the same. My point is Suarez did not respect the rules of the game. We can say he was heroic by sacrificing himself for his team, but he still committed an act of dishonesty regardless. The punishments do not justify his act.

How does the punishment not justify it? It isn't his fault that Gyan missed that penalty.

Not only that, the free kick that caused the handball was from a deliberate dive by the Ghana player. That free kick shouldn't even have existed.

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« Reply #281 on: July 03, 2010, 11:22:51 AM »
I don't get how it is dishonest. He got caught and suffered the consequence. He wasn't hiding anything or lying about something.
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« Reply #282 on: July 03, 2010, 11:24:13 AM »
It's dishonest because he knew that the punishment couldn't actually fit the crime.

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« Reply #283 on: July 03, 2010, 11:27:55 AM »
It's dishonest because he knew that the punishment couldn't actually fit the crime.
Errr, he can't play in the Semifinals when his team greatly needs him.  I think that is a fitting punishment.
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« Reply #284 on: July 03, 2010, 11:30:31 AM »
it was the hand of god, just like maradona years ago.
the punishment fits the crime, thats football.
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« Reply #285 on: July 03, 2010, 11:34:03 AM »
It's dishonest because he knew that the punishment couldn't actually fit the crime.
Errr, he can't play in the Semifinals when his team greatly needs him.  I think that is a fitting punishment.

Compared to definitely being out of the tournament completely?

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« Reply #286 on: July 03, 2010, 02:38:58 PM »
Spain has finally reached the semi-finals after 60 years of frustration! VIVA LA FURIA ROJA!

How does the punishment not justify it?
It is just if he receives punishments for violating the rules. However, the act itself is not just; his act was not considered valid by the officials, which is why he was punished. I believe there is a difference.

It isn't his fault that Gyan missed that penalty.
I don't disagree. Gyan's failure to convert the penalty was a separate case.
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Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup
« Reply #287 on: July 03, 2010, 02:47:13 PM »
Who else is upset that Paraguay is out? I wanted them to win the whole thing, even though I knew it was unlikely.

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« Reply #288 on: July 03, 2010, 02:52:35 PM »
Paraguay definitely played much better than Spain. The Spanish team is always nervous and clumsy in the knock-out stages in almost every World Cup. I hope Spain will return to their original shape when playing against Germany in the upcoming semi-final match.

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« Reply #289 on: July 03, 2010, 03:16:02 PM »
they were better with fabregas on instead of torres.
and whatever happened to Senna?
Spain for teh win
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« Reply #290 on: July 03, 2010, 03:44:10 PM »
Talk about dishonesty in football, everyone is always trying to fish for punishments by deliberately diving and it's no better than saving the team by getting a red card.

It was dishonest, sure, but football is the fucking king sport of dishonesty.

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Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup
« Reply #291 on: July 03, 2010, 03:47:58 PM »
Maybe he had a mental breakdown in a brief moment of panic, got confused, and thought he was the goalie?
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« Reply #292 on: July 03, 2010, 04:02:14 PM »
Maybe he had a mental breakdown in a brief moment of panic, got confused, and thought he was the goalie?

It happens to the best of us. I frequently panic and think I'm a goalie.

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« Reply #293 on: July 03, 2010, 04:07:48 PM »
Maybe he had a mental breakdown in a brief moment of panic, got confused, and thought he was the goalie?

In all seriousness, it was definitely the right thing to do for his team, despite the punishments.

And I'm saying this as a person who supported Ghana.

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« Reply #294 on: July 03, 2010, 04:18:20 PM »
they were better with fabregas on instead of torres.
I agree.

and whatever happened to Senna?
Spain for teh win
Yeah, it's rather unfortunate that he is not included in the current Spanish squad, as he is one of the best midfielders.

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« Reply #296 on: July 03, 2010, 05:01:37 PM »

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Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup
« Reply #297 on: July 03, 2010, 05:08:12 PM »
http://www.castrolfootball.com/predictor/winnerpredictor/

Bah, Paul the Octopus is more accurate than that shit. He hasn't been wrong yet, and I'll be surprised if Germany doesn't win considering their performance the past two games.

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Re: 2010 FIFA World Cup
« Reply #298 on: July 03, 2010, 05:09:26 PM »
Never underestimate the intelligence of an octopus.
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« Reply #299 on: July 04, 2010, 02:53:24 AM »
I feel bad cos I underestimated the octopus :(
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