A Few Issues With the OTHER FES Map

Quote from: Thevoiceofreason on June 17, 2010, 04:58:25 PM

Quote from: Mrs. Peach on June 17, 2010, 02:10:14 PM

Measuring a mountainside's actual area gets a tad complicated.

And? are you saying that the map is wrong, and that the area they achieved surveying the land is wrong, and that the governments estimation of their own land is wrong?

No, it was an off hand remark regarding actual area as different from 'footprint' area.  Just as I meant Wyoming when I said Wyoming.

Ok, so then if the estimation is a good value, then the geoid globe is a better representation of the actual earth as compared to FET maps. Thanks for playing

If you insist on putting your own words into other people's mouths, I suppose that any and all conclusions are within your reach.  It doesn't add much to the validity of your conclusions, though. 

If you insist on putting your own words into other people's mouths, I suppose that any and all conclusions are within your reach.  It doesn't add much to the validity of your conclusions, though. 

I asked you a series of question's to which you responded "no".
If I made an error, I'd happily be disabused.
Either the data obtained on the area of Colorado via pre GPS methods is precise or not.
If you accept this fact, you accept that the earth can't be flat. but since you will never accept this fact, I guess that you will continue to argue on this very clear cut proof. It has nothing to do with Colorado itself, but rather that any quadrilateral between 37 and 41 N with an azimuth angle of 7 will have precisely the area of Colorado. If you accept this idea, then it follows that the only shape that fits this criteria is a geoid.

And I've already provided you with information as to why this cannot be accepted. It's basic geometry.

And I've already provided you with information as to why this cannot be accepted. It's basic geometry.

I must have missed the part where you actually provided this. I've broken it down to either
A) The numerical value of the land area of Colorado stated on Wikipedia and the state government website is imprecise,
OR
B) The earth is a geiod.

This is a true statement, its simple multivariable calculus. If you don't understand it, I'm sorry, but the knowledge is beyond the scope of this forum. Now the only logical option is to accept that the earth is round, or to now believe that the area of Colorado is a lie.

The topic derailed so much... I want to go back at the start. Take an airplane, and fly towards the edge. You claim you cannot because the earth force you to travel in circle. I dont understand this statement. We have a space, a flat earth. Are you saying that is phisically impossible to fly towards the edge because of strange forces? I think this is an incredibly simple experiments to watch what's going on near the uknown edges. Take a jumbo jet and head it straight in one direction, does not matter if you go towards south pole. Or are you claiming that is phisically impossible to go straight, you have to go in circle?

The topic derailed so much... I want to go back at the start. Take an airplane, and fly towards the edge. You claim you cannot because the earth force you to travel in circle. I dont understand this statement. We have a space, a flat earth. Are you saying that is phisically impossible to fly towards the edge because of strange forces? I think this is an incredibly simple experiments to watch what's going on near the uknown edges. Take a jumbo jet and head it straight in one direction, does not matter if you go towards south pole. Or are you claiming that is phisically impossible to go straight, you have to go in circle?

That's a pretty simple question. I'll bet I know the answer, so inb4:
BUT YOUR GPS IS RUN BY THE CONSPIRACY GOVERNMENT SO YOU DO SUBTLE ZIG-ZAGS

Quote from: SSSavio on June 21, 2010, 01:39:08 AM

The topic derailed so much... I want to go back at the start. Take an airplane, and fly towards the edge. You claim you cannot because the earth force you to travel in circle. I dont understand this statement. We have a space, a flat earth. Are you saying that is phisically impossible to fly towards the edge because of strange forces? I think this is an incredibly simple experiments to watch what's going on near the uknown edges. Take a jumbo jet and head it straight in one direction, does not matter if you go towards south pole. Or are you claiming that is phisically impossible to go straight, you have to go in circle?

That's a pretty simple question. I'll bet I know the answer, so inb4:
BUT YOUR GPS IS RUN BY THE CONSPIRACY GOVERNMENT SO YOU DO SUBTLE ZIG-ZAGS

this one catches on quick.
but sadly is already been out, GPS is a lie according to them.

Quote from: G.Oak on June 21, 2010, 01:47:54 AM

Quote from: SSSavio on June 21, 2010, 01:39:08 AM

The topic derailed so much... I want to go back at the start. Take an airplane, and fly towards the edge. You claim you cannot because the earth force you to travel in circle. I dont understand this statement. We have a space, a flat earth. Are you saying that is phisically impossible to fly towards the edge because of strange forces? I think this is an incredibly simple experiments to watch what's going on near the uknown edges. Take a jumbo jet and head it straight in one direction, does not matter if you go towards south pole. Or are you claiming that is phisically impossible to go straight, you have to go in circle?

That's a pretty simple question. I'll bet I know the answer, so inb4:
BUT YOUR GPS IS RUN BY THE CONSPIRACY GOVERNMENT SO YOU DO SUBTLE ZIG-ZAGS

this one catches on quick.
but sadly is already been out, GPS is a lie according to them.

Ok, but why i need gps. There are so many methods to take a direction. I dont understand why it is phisically impossible to go straight towards an edge. And taking in account probability, if you send 100 airplanes to go blind ahead, some of them i think can reach the edges even without gps or other instruments, just because some planes are lucky. My question is: it is phisically impossible to fly straight towards the edge?? In ret you can go straight (projecting the trajectory of the plane).

Quote from: Thevoiceofreason on June 21, 2010, 02:06:19 AM

Quote from: G.Oak on June 21, 2010, 01:47:54 AM

Quote from: SSSavio on June 21, 2010, 01:39:08 AM

The topic derailed so much... I want to go back at the start. Take an airplane, and fly towards the edge. You claim you cannot because the earth force you to travel in circle. I dont understand this statement. We have a space, a flat earth. Are you saying that is phisically impossible to fly towards the edge because of strange forces? I think this is an incredibly simple experiments to watch what's going on near the uknown edges. Take a jumbo jet and head it straight in one direction, does not matter if you go towards south pole. Or are you claiming that is phisically impossible to go straight, you have to go in circle?

That's a pretty simple question. I'll bet I know the answer, so inb4:
BUT YOUR GPS IS RUN BY THE CONSPIRACY GOVERNMENT SO YOU DO SUBTLE ZIG-ZAGS

this one catches on quick.
but sadly is already been out, GPS is a lie according to them.

Ok, but why i need gps. There are so many methods to take a direction. I dont understand why it is phisically impossible to go straight towards an edge. And taking in account probability, if you send 100 airplanes to go blind ahead, some of them i think can reach the edges even without gps or other instruments, just because some planes are lucky. My question is: it is phisically impossible to fly straight towards the edge?? In ret you can go straight (projecting the trajectory of the plane).

well gyroscopes, accelerometers, looking at the sky, etc. would insure this feat, but the lack of an edge and continuity of the surface is one of the most damning things towards FET. essentially you've hit a brick wall, no real arguments are behind this because you've one. now its time for them to attack ur grammar, sources, logic, and premises.

There are only a few flight paths that are taken through the Antarctica by flight and they all cut through peninsulas. 

There are only a few flight paths that are taken through the Antarctica by flight and they all cut through peninsulas. 

are you saying the no one in ever has flown across it?
and what about the people who explore it?