Private Company launches spacecraft into orbit

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Re: Private Company launches spacecraft into orbit
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2010, 04:41:39 PM »
I wish this was a victory, but the FES will not die so long as someone is paranoid.

On the plus side, the chances that it will continue existing after the current members die just dropped.

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Re: Private Company launches spacecraft into orbit
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2010, 04:52:38 PM »
Since SpaceX is a government contractor (and therefore a member of the conspiracy), I doubt that any FE'er will be impressed.
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Re: Private Company launches spacecraft into orbit
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2010, 04:55:12 PM »
Add more members to the so-called conspiracy ;D

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Slemon

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Re: Private Company launches spacecraft into orbit
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2010, 07:39:06 AM »

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Re: Private Company launches spacecraft into orbit
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2010, 05:22:45 PM »
Since SpaceX is a government contractor (and therefore a member of the conspiracy), I doubt that any FE'er will be impressed.

Nope, not impressed.

For above reasons obviously.
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Re: Private Company launches spacecraft into orbit
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2010, 07:15:12 PM »
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/06/05/followup-falcon-9-spiral-light-video/

Here's the second stage booster of Space X's falcon 9 space craft.  Apparently something went wrong and caused the booster to start spinning and leaking gasses (the capsule did successfully achieve orbit however).  The gasses are backlit by the sun, still coming over the horizon, making it glow brightly.  You can see it moving in the exact way you'd expect something to move in orbit, in a straight line towards the horizon.  The gasses follow it because they're under the same influence of gravity as the object.

Edit:  Here's a page showing the flight path, and some photos, as well as a debunking of someone's claim that this is a UFO.
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/06/05/oh-those-falcon-ufos/
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Re: Private Company launches spacecraft into orbit
« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2010, 02:30:58 AM »
Well space flight is possible on a flat earth.

And the earth will appear round from space according to John Davis.

Re: Private Company launches spacecraft into orbit
« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2010, 05:44:41 AM »
I imagine it would also smell round, taste round, feel round, and sound round from space, yet still be flat? Zeteticism at its best: "I must ignore what my senses are telling me!"

Re: Private Company launches spacecraft into orbit
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2010, 09:02:41 AM »
Well space flight is possible on a flat earth.

And the earth will appear round from space according to John Davis.

Aaah, desperation.

Ain't that nice, a theory just to achieve fool-proof. Where's the ice wall by the way
Ah well, these events and many others proves the earth is round, but these stubborn lunatics can keep making up their own explanations.

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Re: Private Company launches spacecraft into orbit
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2010, 11:04:18 AM »
I imagine it would also smell round, taste round, feel round, and sound round from space, yet still be flat? Zeteticism at its best: "I must ignore what my senses are telling me!"

At the edge of space one is looking down at the circular area of light of the sun. This is why there is some slight curvature in amateur balloon pictures.

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Re: Private Company launches spacecraft into orbit
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2010, 11:14:45 AM »
I imagine it would also smell round, taste round, feel round, and sound round from space, yet still be flat? Zeteticism at its best: "I must ignore what my senses are telling me!"

At the edge of space one is looking down at the circular area of light of the sun. This is why there is some slight curvature in amateur balloon pictures.

What about space pictures taken of the night side of the earth? Or pictures where the terminator between night and day is visible?

Example:
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Re: Private Company launches spacecraft into orbit
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2010, 01:22:27 PM »
I imagine it would also smell round, taste round, feel round, and sound round from space, yet still be flat? Zeteticism at its best: "I must ignore what my senses are telling me!"

At the edge of space one is looking down at the circular area of light of the sun. This is why there is some slight curvature in amateur balloon pictures.

What about space pictures taken of the night side of the earth? Or pictures where the terminator between night and day is visible?

Example: http://history.nasa.gov/ap11ann/kippsphotos/6692.jpg

That's a NASA picture.

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Re: Private Company launches spacecraft into orbit
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2010, 01:25:56 PM »
I imagine it would also smell round, taste round, feel round, and sound round from space, yet still be flat? Zeteticism at its best: "I must ignore what my senses are telling me!"

At the edge of space one is looking down at the circular area of light of the sun. This is why there is some slight curvature in amateur balloon pictures.

What about space pictures taken of the night side of the earth? Or pictures where the terminator between night and day is visible?

Example: http://history.nasa.gov/ap11ann/kippsphotos/6692.jpg

That's a NASA picture.

Far in advance of any CG, especially a few decades ago, of course...
Oh, of course, to make money NASA invented super-CGI...
Why didn't they sell the software afterwards? That would get them more money.

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Re: Private Company launches spacecraft into orbit
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2010, 02:04:33 PM »
I imagine it would also smell round, taste round, feel round, and sound round from space, yet still be flat? Zeteticism at its best: "I must ignore what my senses are telling me!"

At the edge of space one is looking down at the circular area of light of the sun. This is why there is some slight curvature in amateur balloon pictures.

What about space pictures taken of the night side of the earth? Or pictures where the terminator between night and day is visible?

Example: http://history.nasa.gov/ap11ann/kippsphotos/6692.jpg

That's a NASA picture.

So?
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Re: Private Company launches spacecraft into orbit
« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2010, 02:06:54 PM »
Far in advance of any CG, especially a few decades ago, of course...
Oh, of course, to make money NASA invented super-CGI...
Why didn't they sell the software afterwards? That would get them more money.

I dunno about that.  NASA's annual budget is somewhere to the tune of $19 billion or something.  A super-CGI program might get them tens of millions, if that.

I find it easier to argue the fact that it'd be impossible to keep the Conspiracy a secret... nobody seems to understand that.

Trolling makes me angry.

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Slemon

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Re: Private Company launches spacecraft into orbit
« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2010, 02:08:42 PM »
Far in advance of any CG, especially a few decades ago, of course...
Oh, of course, to make money NASA invented super-CGI...
Why didn't they sell the software afterwards? That would get them more money.

I dunno about that.  NASA's annual budget is somewhere to the tune of $19 billion or something.  A super-CGI program might get them tens of millions, if that.

I find it easier to argue the fact that it'd be impossible to keep the Conspiracy a secret... nobody seems to understand that.

If you think of the scientists who made the CGI, they'd want extra payment for the work. they could get, say, a few thousand, million even, each. That's plenty.

Re: Private Company launches spacecraft into orbit
« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2010, 02:10:42 PM »
Far in advance of any CG, especially a few decades ago, of course...
Oh, of course, to make money NASA invented super-CGI...
Why didn't they sell the software afterwards? That would get them more money.

I dunno about that.  NASA's annual budget is somewhere to the tune of $19 billion or something.  A super-CGI program might get them tens of millions, if that.

I find it easier to argue the fact that it'd be impossible to keep the Conspiracy a secret... nobody seems to understand that.

If you think of the scientists who made the CGI, they'd want extra payment for the work. they could get, say, a few thousand, million even, each. That's plenty.

I feel like you're overestimating the value of advanced CGI technology.  The only decent application would be simulators and Hollywood.

Trolling makes me angry.

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Slemon

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Re: Private Company launches spacecraft into orbit
« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2010, 02:12:35 PM »
Far in advance of any CG, especially a few decades ago, of course...
Oh, of course, to make money NASA invented super-CGI...
Why didn't they sell the software afterwards? That would get them more money.

I dunno about that.  NASA's annual budget is somewhere to the tune of $19 billion or something.  A super-CGI program might get them tens of millions, if that.

I find it easier to argue the fact that it'd be impossible to keep the Conspiracy a secret... nobody seems to understand that.

If you think of the scientists who made the CGI, they'd want extra payment for the work. they could get, say, a few thousand, million even, each. That's plenty.

I feel like you're overestimating the value of advanced CGI technology.  The only decent application would be simulators and Hollywood.

How much money does Hollywood make?
Don't forget the time that the photos were taken. 3D graphics were only first available in late 1980s.

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Re: Private Company launches spacecraft into orbit
« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2010, 02:19:13 PM »
I imagine it would also smell round, taste round, feel round, and sound round from space, yet still be flat? Zeteticism at its best: "I must ignore what my senses are telling me!"

At the edge of space one is looking down at the circular area of light of the sun. This is why there is some slight curvature in amateur balloon pictures.

What about space pictures taken of the night side of the earth? Or pictures where the terminator between night and day is visible?

Example: http://history.nasa.gov/ap11ann/kippsphotos/6692.jpg

That's a NASA picture.

You've used pictures from NASA yourself, what's the difference?
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Re: Private Company launches spacecraft into orbit
« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2010, 03:38:18 PM »
I imagine it would also smell round, taste round, feel round, and sound round from space, yet still be flat? Zeteticism at its best: "I must ignore what my senses are telling me!"

At the edge of space one is looking down at the circular area of light of the sun. This is why there is some slight curvature in amateur balloon pictures.

What about space pictures taken of the night side of the earth? Or pictures where the terminator between night and day is visible?

Example:

Quoted for emphasis. Tom Bishop needs to respond to this, because clearly if the pictures show a night/day terminator which is not exactly on the horizon, then your theory is wrong.

Re: Private Company launches spacecraft into orbit
« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2010, 04:26:20 PM »
I imagine it would also smell round, taste round, feel round, and sound round from space, yet still be flat? Zeteticism at its best: "I must ignore what my senses are telling me!"

At the edge of space one is looking down at the circular area of light of the sun. This is why there is some slight curvature in amateur balloon pictures.

lol
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Tom Bishop

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Re: Private Company launches spacecraft into orbit
« Reply #22 on: June 11, 2010, 08:08:53 PM »
So?

It's fake.

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I feel like you're overestimating the value of advanced CGI technology.  The only decent application would be simulators and Hollywood.

It's neither CGI nor computer generated. It's an art studio fake from the Apollo missions.

They took images from the edge of space, stitched a couple together horizontally, and used fish-eye effects to add more curvature.
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Re: Private Company launches spacecraft into orbit
« Reply #23 on: June 11, 2010, 08:16:56 PM »
So?

It's fake.

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I feel like you're overestimating the value of advanced CGI technology.  The only decent application would be simulators and Hollywood.

It's neither CGI nor computer generated. It's an art studio fake from the Apollo missions.

They took images from the edge of space, stitched a couple together horizontally, and used fish-eye effects to add more curvature.

It's amazing that people still have trouble grasping this.
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Tom Bishop

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Re: Private Company launches spacecraft into orbit
« Reply #24 on: June 11, 2010, 08:24:12 PM »
Quote from: Roundy the Truthinessist link=topic=39515.msg989150#msg989150
It's amazing that people still have trouble grasping this.

Indeed. Image manipulation didn't just pop into existence in the 1990's. It was happening over the prior hundred years in art studios.

Joseph Stalin was notorious for brushing people in and out of photographs for propaganda purposes.

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Re: Private Company launches spacecraft into orbit
« Reply #25 on: June 11, 2010, 08:30:28 PM »
With your statements, you are claiming that the organization which claims to have taken the image and those like it is committing fraud, which is a very serious offense. Do you have evidence to back up those claims?
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Re: Private Company launches spacecraft into orbit
« Reply #26 on: June 11, 2010, 11:10:50 PM »
With your statements, you are claiming that the organization which claims to have taken the image and those like it is committing fraud, which is a very serious offense. Do you have evidence to back up those claims?

There's a Conspiracy section in the wiki with evidence against NASA's fraud.

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Re: Private Company launches spacecraft into orbit
« Reply #27 on: June 12, 2010, 01:32:01 AM »
I imagine it would also smell round, taste round, feel round, and sound round from space, yet still be flat? Zeteticism at its best: "I must ignore what my senses are telling me!"

At the edge of space one is looking down at the circular area of light of the sun. This is why there is some slight curvature in amateur balloon pictures.

What about space pictures taken of the night side of the earth? Or pictures where the terminator between night and day is visible?

Example: http://history.nasa.gov/ap11ann/kippsphotos/6692.jpg

That's a NASA picture.

-I was wondering.. if space flight is possible on a flat earth. and if this picture is a fake NASA picture.. what is the furthest point from the earth's surface ever reached by any person according to FES?

-Understandibly, because of the conspiracy, there are no photos of the Flat Earth from high altitude, but if this NASA picture is not showing what the earth really looks like according to FET, what would a situation like in this NASA picture look like? Maybe someone can create a CG image (roughly) of a flat earth from great altitude showing the terminator between night and day? (just asking out of curiosity, not saying it's impossible)
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Re: Private Company launches spacecraft into orbit
« Reply #28 on: June 12, 2010, 04:00:02 AM »
It's amazing that people still have trouble grasping this.

Yes. It's amazing that people have trouble accepting things for which there is no evidence.

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Re: Private Company launches spacecraft into orbit
« Reply #29 on: June 12, 2010, 07:19:19 AM »
LOL