Universal Healthcare in Canada being reconsidered

Quote from: Pongo on June 16, 2010, 02:11:45 AM

Back to the sex ed stuff...

I went to an all male private catholic school in one of the southern states and they taught us to use condoms.  You may understand why I find it odd that other schools in other places teach abstinence only.

That goes against the pope's official decision.

On a second not, did the priest's molest you? The pope is ok with that.

Quote from: EnglshGentleman on June 16, 2010, 10:07:51 AM

Quote from: Pongo on June 16, 2010, 02:11:45 AM

Back to the sex ed stuff...

I went to an all male private catholic school in one of the southern states and they taught us to use condoms.  You may understand why I find it odd that other schools in other places teach abstinence only.

Some states demand Abstinence Only. Like Texas. Heck, Bush made a bill for groups to go into Africa and teach them abstinence as a way to control the spread of AIDS.

What a succesful campaign. South Africa is now the AIDS capitol of the world

Quote from: Areweonfiya on June 16, 2010, 06:49:39 PM

Quote from: EnglshGentleman on June 16, 2010, 10:07:51 AM

Quote from: Pongo on June 16, 2010, 02:11:45 AM

Back to the sex ed stuff...

I went to an all male private catholic school in one of the southern states and they taught us to use condoms.  You may understand why I find it odd that other schools in other places teach abstinence only.

Some states demand Abstinence Only. Like Texas. Heck, Bush made a bill for groups to go into Africa and teach them abstinence as a way to control the spread of AIDS.

What a succesful campaign. South Africa is now the AIDS capitol of the world

I heard it worked pretty well in Uganda. I imagine that in some of these places it is hard to get condoms.

Quote from: Canadark on June 17, 2010, 09:51:36 AM

Quote from: Areweonfiya on June 16, 2010, 06:49:39 PM

Quote from: EnglshGentleman on June 16, 2010, 10:07:51 AM

Quote from: Pongo on June 16, 2010, 02:11:45 AM

Back to the sex ed stuff...

I went to an all male private catholic school in one of the southern states and they taught us to use condoms.  You may understand why I find it odd that other schools in other places teach abstinence only.

Some states demand Abstinence Only. Like Texas. Heck, Bush made a bill for groups to go into Africa and teach them abstinence as a way to control the spread of AIDS.

What a succesful campaign. South Africa is now the AIDS capitol of the world

I heard it worked pretty well in Uganda. I imagine that in some of these places it is hard to get condoms.

Especially when you have pricks like Darth Sidious telling them that they'll go to Hell for using them...

so long as it works

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so long as it works

And clearly it doesn't.

Quote from: Chris Spaghetti on June 17, 2010, 12:50:06 PM

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so long as it works

And clearly it doesn't.

I was under the impression that the abstinence program in Uganda had been relatively successful.

Quote from: Canadark on June 17, 2010, 01:02:02 PM

Quote from: Chris Spaghetti on June 17, 2010, 12:50:06 PM

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so long as it works

And clearly it doesn't.

I was under the impression that the abstinence program in Uganda had been relatively successful.

Who told you that?

My favourite quote on this is from Stephen fry, who has done a great deal of work with AIDS in Africa

"There was a time when [Uganda] had the highest incidence rates of HIV/AIDs in the world but through an amazing initiative called ABC:

Abstinence,
Be faithful
Correct use of condoms

Those three, and I'm not denying that abstinence is a very good way of not getting AIDs it really is, it works; so does being faithful but so do condoms and do not deny it!"

I don't really care what combination of techniques works best so long as it works, and neither should you. In a lot of these countries there exists a strong taboo against using condoms. Education on safe-sex can do a lot, but for many, encouraging abstinence from sex with multiple partners is the most realistic solution to curbing the spread of HIV.

Yes, but the point is that the Pope actively denies having that combination, he denies condoms! The church has made aid conditional on not giving out condoms, the pope has spread the lie that condoms make it worse!

Quote from: Chris Spaghetti on June 17, 2010, 01:25:15 PM

Yes, but the point is that the Pope actively denies having that combination, he denies condoms! The church has made aid conditional on not giving out condoms, the pope has spread the lie that condoms make it worse!

When are you going to get it into your head that not all Christians believe the same thing.

Quote from: Canadark on June 17, 2010, 01:32:10 PM

Quote from: Chris Spaghetti on June 17, 2010, 01:25:15 PM

Yes, but the point is that the Pope actively denies having that combination, he denies condoms! The church has made aid conditional on not giving out condoms, the pope has spread the lie that condoms make it worse!

When are you going to get it into your head that not all Christians believe the same thing.

As soon as it stops being an oxymoron. They're a single religion, if they didn't believe the same thing then they wouldn't be.

Quote from: General Douchebag on June 17, 2010, 02:56:09 PM

Quote from: Canadark on June 17, 2010, 01:32:10 PM

Quote from: Chris Spaghetti on June 17, 2010, 01:25:15 PM

Yes, but the point is that the Pope actively denies having that combination, he denies condoms! The church has made aid conditional on not giving out condoms, the pope has spread the lie that condoms make it worse!

When are you going to get it into your head that not all Christians believe the same thing.

As soon as it stops being an oxymoron. They're a single religion, if they didn't believe the same thing then they wouldn't be.

That's why they're called denominations!

Quote from: Christianrocker90 on June 17, 2010, 03:07:42 PM

Quote from: General Douchebag on June 17, 2010, 02:56:09 PM

Quote from: Canadark on June 17, 2010, 01:32:10 PM

Quote from: Chris Spaghetti on June 17, 2010, 01:25:15 PM

Yes, but the point is that the Pope actively denies having that combination, he denies condoms! The church has made aid conditional on not giving out condoms, the pope has spread the lie that condoms make it worse!

When are you going to get it into your head that not all Christians believe the same thing.

As soon as it stops being an oxymoron. They're a single religion, if they didn't believe the same thing then they wouldn't be.

That's why they're called denominations!

So which one is right? Since they have identical scriptures, surely one is definitely absolutely right.

Quote from: General Douchebag on June 17, 2010, 03:08:48 PM

Quote from: Christianrocker90 on June 17, 2010, 03:07:42 PM

Quote from: General Douchebag on June 17, 2010, 02:56:09 PM

Quote from: Canadark on June 17, 2010, 01:32:10 PM

Quote from: Chris Spaghetti on June 17, 2010, 01:25:15 PM

Yes, but the point is that the Pope actively denies having that combination, he denies condoms! The church has made aid conditional on not giving out condoms, the pope has spread the lie that condoms make it worse!

When are you going to get it into your head that not all Christians believe the same thing.

As soon as it stops being an oxymoron. They're a single religion, if they didn't believe the same thing then they wouldn't be.

That's why they're called denominations!

So which one is right? Since they have identical scriptures, surely one is definitely absolutely right.

They will all claim to be right.  As for Christianity as a whole, I would define it as all religious denominations that currently believe that Jesus Christ was the son of God, died for man's sins, rose from the dead, and ascended to heaven with his body, and only through belief in him can a persons sins be forgiven.  That belief appears to be common amoung all of the current Christian religions, though there may be some other common beliefs, such as the virgin birth.

Certainly, anyone can claim to be right. But when it comes to this, one definitely absolutely is. Does it make you sad that the lunatics in the Deep South that stone biology teachers for stating the fact of evolution are adhering to scripture more than you? Even then, they do so on the Sabbath while wearing two types of thread.

Certainly, anyone can claim to be right. But when it comes to this, one definitely absolutely is. Does it make you sad that the lunatics in the Deep South that stone biology teachers for stating the fact of evolution are adhering to scripture more than you? Even then, they do so on the Sabbath while wearing two types of thread.

Quote from: General Douchebag on June 17, 2010, 03:17:16 PM

Certainly, anyone can claim to be right. But when it comes to this, one definitely absolutely is. Does it make you sad that the lunatics in the Deep South that stone biology teachers for stating the fact of evolution are adhering to scripture more than you? Even then, they do so on the Sabbath while wearing two types of thread.

Lol.

You'd perhaps be interested in this poll:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2009/oct/25/teach-evolution-creationism-britons

I have no problem with schools teaching Creationism, so long as it is taught in religion class. It is not and has never been scientific.

Quote from: General Douchebag on June 17, 2010, 03:17:16 PM

Certainly, anyone can claim to be right. But when it comes to this, one definitely absolutely is. Does it make you sad that the lunatics in the Deep South that stone biology teachers for stating the fact of evolution are adhering to scripture more than you? Even then, they do so on the Sabbath while wearing two types of thread.

I disagree with the bold, I would say none of them are likely to be correct.  Unless they can be independently verified.

Quote from: General Douchebag on June 17, 2010, 03:17:16 PM

Certainly, anyone can claim to be right. But when it comes to this, one definitely absolutely is. Does it make you sad that the lunatics in the Deep South that stone biology teachers for stating the fact of evolution are adhering to scripture more than you? Even then, they do so on the Sabbath while wearing two types of thread.

Lol.

You'd perhaps be interested in this poll:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2009/oct/25/teach-evolution-creationism-britons

Gods below, I need to emigrate.

Quote from: Marcus Aurelius on June 17, 2010, 03:26:25 PM

Quote from: General Douchebag on June 17, 2010, 03:17:16 PM

Certainly, anyone can claim to be right. But when it comes to this, one definitely absolutely is. Does it make you sad that the lunatics in the Deep South that stone biology teachers for stating the fact of evolution are adhering to scripture more than you? Even then, they do so on the Sabbath while wearing two types of thread.

I disagree with the bold, I would say none of them are likely to be correct.  Unless they can be independently verified.

If none of them are correct, why doesn't somebody make one that is?

Quote from: General Douchebag on June 18, 2010, 09:52:45 AM

Quote from: Marcus Aurelius on June 17, 2010, 03:26:25 PM

Quote from: General Douchebag on June 17, 2010, 03:17:16 PM

Certainly, anyone can claim to be right. But when it comes to this, one definitely absolutely is. Does it make you sad that the lunatics in the Deep South that stone biology teachers for stating the fact of evolution are adhering to scripture more than you? Even then, they do so on the Sabbath while wearing two types of thread.

I disagree with the bold, I would say none of them are likely to be correct.  Unless they can be independently verified.

If none of them are correct, why doesn't somebody make one that is?

Science is working on that. 

Quote from: Canadark on June 17, 2010, 01:32:10 PM

Quote from: Chris Spaghetti on June 17, 2010, 01:25:15 PM

Yes, but the point is that the Pope actively denies having that combination, he denies condoms! The church has made aid conditional on not giving out condoms, the pope has spread the lie that condoms make it worse!

When are you going to get it into your head that not all Christians believe the same thing.

As soon as it stops being an oxymoron. They're a single religion, if they didn't believe the same thing then they wouldn't be.

Quote from: General Douchebag on June 17, 2010, 02:56:09 PM

Quote from: Canadark on June 17, 2010, 01:32:10 PM

Quote from: Chris Spaghetti on June 17, 2010, 01:25:15 PM

Yes, but the point is that the Pope actively denies having that combination, he denies condoms! The church has made aid conditional on not giving out condoms, the pope has spread the lie that condoms make it worse!

When are you going to get it into your head that not all Christians believe the same thing.

As soon as it stops being an oxymoron. They're a single religion, if they didn't believe the same thing then they wouldn't be.

Do you think that all Christians have to believe that one flavour of ice cream is superior to all the others?

Quote from: Canadark on June 18, 2010, 05:18:38 PM

Quote from: General Douchebag on June 17, 2010, 02:56:09 PM

Quote from: Canadark on June 17, 2010, 01:32:10 PM

Quote from: Chris Spaghetti on June 17, 2010, 01:25:15 PM

Yes, but the point is that the Pope actively denies having that combination, he denies condoms! The church has made aid conditional on not giving out condoms, the pope has spread the lie that condoms make it worse!

When are you going to get it into your head that not all Christians believe the same thing.

As soon as it stops being an oxymoron. They're a single religion, if they didn't believe the same thing then they wouldn't be.

Do you think that all Christians have to believe that one flavour of ice cream is superior to all the others?

If the scriptures say so, then yeah. There would probably be genocides over which one though, unless that was very clearly specified.