Universal Healthcare in Canada being reconsidered

From the next one onwards I'm going to start a thread entitled 'arguments CR90 has dodged'

From the next one onwards I'm going to start a thread entitled 'arguments CR90 has dodged'

"Dodged" implies that he has used some kind of technique to keep the discussion going despite not addressing the points. When it comes to CR90, "ignored" is a much more applicable term. If CR90 were crossing a busy street, he wouldn't make sure to walk between cars, he'd just ignore them completely and expect that they drive around him.

From the next one onwards I'm going to start a thread entitled 'arguments CR90 has dodged'

I think i've done that. I compared CR90 to the french.

I think I understand:

His family is conservative so he was raised to believe that socialism is bad and anything that is government run will most likely fail.  Free market forever and all.

His mom god disabled and, when push came to shove, they needed help so instead of thinking themselves as hypocritical they instead say "we earned it so it's ok".

I know quite a few conservative Christians who are exactly the same.  They make nasty remarks about black people getting welfare, then do all they can to get handouts for themselves. I've pointed out the hypocrisy, but it does no good.  (I'm not saying anything about CR90 being racist, I just happen to know some people in rl who are)

We used cucumbers in our sex-ed class.

We used cucumbers in our sex-ed class.

Ouch. Did you at least lube them up first?

I'm disappointed. We never got to practice putting condoms on cucumbers in sex-ed class

Ha, cucumbers? how infantile, we put them on a huge anatomically correct dildo (which, of course, we assumed was straight out of the teacher's personal collection.)

We didn't get to play with dildos either

If a teacher tried using one of those here it would make the news and the teacher would probably be fired, lol.

If a teacher tried using one of those here it would make the news and the teacher would probably be fired, lol.

Same. We got taught abstinence because allegedly condoms and birth control both fail miserably.

I got to see a presentation on STDs and STIs. Lots of pictures. It was informative.

America's "Condemns? lol" sex education.



Abstinence only education is trolling at its finest.

Abstinence only makes me laugh because the teenage years are when our bodies are specifically ready to have sex and reproduce.  We're biologically supposed to be having babies by 16 so that, when we hit 30, we can die.

True, that was a VERY long time ago in our evolutionary chain, but it's not like it's gone away.

Abstinence only makes me laugh because the teenage years are when our bodies are specifically ready to have sex and reproduce.  We're biologically supposed to be having babies by 16 so that, when we hit 30, we can die.

True, that was a VERY long time ago in our evolutionary chain, but it's not like it's gone away.

I disagree. It wasn't that long ago. Kids be fuckin...Christians be trippin'...And that's just the way she goes.

Quote from: Lorddave on June 11, 2010, 01:09:30 PM

Abstinence only makes me laugh because the teenage years are when our bodies are specifically ready to have sex and reproduce.  We're biologically supposed to be having babies by 16 so that, when we hit 30, we can die.

True, that was a VERY long time ago in our evolutionary chain, but it's not like it's gone away.

I disagree. It wasn't that long ago. Kids be fuckin...Christians be trippin'...And that's just the way she goes.

Ok, 200 years ago.

If you think about it...If we consider technological evolution - particularly medical technology - the goal is continually to extend the human life. We can easily do it in the adult stage with medicine and therapy and shit, but extending the childhood (arguably the best part) is not as easy of a task. In that way we use social rules/taboos/etc., to attempt an extension of the childhood to meet up with the extension of the later adulthood. I suppose the only real way to do that technologically would be through some kind of genetic manipulation...but that's a whole extended step.

If you think about it...If we consider technological evolution - particularly medical technology - the goal is continually to extend the human life. We can easily do it in the adult stage with medicine and therapy and shit, but extending the childhood (arguably the best part) is not as easy of a task. In that way we use social rules/taboos/etc., to attempt an extension of the childhood to meet up with the extension of the later adulthood. I suppose the only real way to do that technologically would be through some kind of genetic manipulation...but that's a whole extended step.

Wow. That actually makes a lot of sense. It explains a lot actually.

Quote from: Benocrates on June 11, 2010, 01:24:38 PM

If you think about it...If we consider technological evolution - particularly medical technology - the goal is continually to extend the human life. We can easily do it in the adult stage with medicine and therapy and shit, but extending the childhood (arguably the best part) is not as easy of a task. In that way we use social rules/taboos/etc., to attempt an extension of the childhood to meet up with the extension of the later adulthood. I suppose the only real way to do that technologically would be through some kind of genetic manipulation...but that's a whole extended step.

Wow. That actually makes a lot of sense. It explains a lot actually.

I don't know if you were actually being sarcastic Raist, but I agree. His statement makes a lot of sense.

Quote from: Raist on June 12, 2010, 08:06:57 PM

Quote from: Benocrates on June 11, 2010, 01:24:38 PM

If you think about it...If we consider technological evolution - particularly medical technology - the goal is continually to extend the human life. We can easily do it in the adult stage with medicine and therapy and shit, but extending the childhood (arguably the best part) is not as easy of a task. In that way we use social rules/taboos/etc., to attempt an extension of the childhood to meet up with the extension of the later adulthood. I suppose the only real way to do that technologically would be through some kind of genetic manipulation...but that's a whole extended step.

Wow. That actually makes a lot of sense. It explains a lot actually.

I don't know if you were actually being sarcastic Raist, but I agree. His statement makes a lot of sense.

I was being 100% genuine. That puts a lot in perspective.

If you think about it...If we consider technological evolution - particularly medical technology - the goal is continually to extend the human life. We can easily do it in the adult stage with medicine and therapy and shit, but extending the childhood (arguably the best part) is not as easy of a task. In that way we use social rules/taboos/etc., to attempt an extension of the childhood to meet up with the extension of the later adulthood. I suppose the only real way to do that technologically would be through some kind of genetic manipulation...but that's a whole extended step.

Agreed.
And all that comes from fear of death.

Back to the sex ed stuff...

I went to an all male private catholic school in one of the southern states and they taught us to use condoms.  You may understand why I find it odd that other schools in other places teach abstinence only.

Back to the sex ed stuff...

I went to an all male private catholic school in one of the southern states and they taught us to use condoms.  You may understand why I find it odd that other schools in other places teach abstinence only.

Some states demand Abstinence Only. Like Texas. Heck, Bush made a bill for groups to go into Africa and teach them abstinence as a way to control the spread of AIDS.

Back to the sex ed stuff...

I went to an all male private catholic school in one of the southern states and they taught us to use condoms.  You may understand why I find it odd that other schools in other places teach abstinence only.

That goes against the pope's official decision.

On a second not, did the priest's molest you? The pope is ok with that.

Quote from: Pongo on June 16, 2010, 02:11:45 AM

Back to the sex ed stuff...

I went to an all male private catholic school in one of the southern states and they taught us to use condoms.  You may understand why I find it odd that other schools in other places teach abstinence only.

Some states demand Abstinence Only. Like Texas. Heck, Bush made a bill for groups to go into Africa and teach them abstinence as a way to control the spread of AIDS.

What a succesful campaign. South Africa is now the AIDS capitol of the world

Quote from: EnglshGentleman on June 16, 2010, 10:07:51 AM

Quote from: Pongo on June 16, 2010, 02:11:45 AM

Back to the sex ed stuff...

I went to an all male private catholic school in one of the southern states and they taught us to use condoms.  You may understand why I find it odd that other schools in other places teach abstinence only.

Some states demand Abstinence Only. Like Texas. Heck, Bush made a bill for groups to go into Africa and teach them abstinence as a way to control the spread of AIDS.

What a succesful campaign. South Africa is now the AIDS capitol of the world

Abstinence classes cause AIDS?

Quote from: Areweonfiya on June 16, 2010, 06:49:39 PM

Quote from: EnglshGentleman on June 16, 2010, 10:07:51 AM

Quote from: Pongo on June 16, 2010, 02:11:45 AM

Back to the sex ed stuff...

I went to an all male private catholic school in one of the southern states and they taught us to use condoms.  You may understand why I find it odd that other schools in other places teach abstinence only.

Some states demand Abstinence Only. Like Texas. Heck, Bush made a bill for groups to go into Africa and teach them abstinence as a way to control the spread of AIDS.

What a succesful campaign. South Africa is now the AIDS capitol of the world

Abstinence classes cause AIDS?

When did I say that?

Quote from: Raist on June 16, 2010, 06:53:13 PM

Quote from: Areweonfiya on June 16, 2010, 06:49:39 PM

Quote from: EnglshGentleman on June 16, 2010, 10:07:51 AM

Quote from: Pongo on June 16, 2010, 02:11:45 AM

Back to the sex ed stuff...

I went to an all male private catholic school in one of the southern states and they taught us to use condoms.  You may understand why I find it odd that other schools in other places teach abstinence only.

Some states demand Abstinence Only. Like Texas. Heck, Bush made a bill for groups to go into Africa and teach them abstinence as a way to control the spread of AIDS.

What a succesful campaign. South Africa is now the AIDS capitol of the world

Abstinence classes cause AIDS?

When did I say that?

You didn't. Just an idea I had that I believe needs further testing.

Quote from: Areweonfiya on June 16, 2010, 06:56:10 PM

Quote from: Raist on June 16, 2010, 06:53:13 PM

Quote from: Areweonfiya on June 16, 2010, 06:49:39 PM

Quote from: EnglshGentleman on June 16, 2010, 10:07:51 AM

Quote from: Pongo on June 16, 2010, 02:11:45 AM

Back to the sex ed stuff...

I went to an all male private catholic school in one of the southern states and they taught us to use condoms.  You may understand why I find it odd that other schools in other places teach abstinence only.

Some states demand Abstinence Only. Like Texas. Heck, Bush made a bill for groups to go into Africa and teach them abstinence as a way to control the spread of AIDS.

What a succesful campaign. South Africa is now the AIDS capitol of the world

Abstinence classes cause AIDS?

When did I say that?

You didn't. Just an idea I had that I believe needs further testing.

Well....

Teachers are authority figures.
Teenagers do like to do the opposite of whatever authority figures tell them.
Therefore:
Abstinence only teaching can cause an increase in AIDS.

Quote from: Raist on June 16, 2010, 07:08:22 PM

Quote from: Areweonfiya on June 16, 2010, 06:56:10 PM

Quote from: Raist on June 16, 2010, 06:53:13 PM

Quote from: Areweonfiya on June 16, 2010, 06:49:39 PM

Quote from: EnglshGentleman on June 16, 2010, 10:07:51 AM

Quote from: Pongo on June 16, 2010, 02:11:45 AM

Back to the sex ed stuff...

I went to an all male private catholic school in one of the southern states and they taught us to use condoms.  You may understand why I find it odd that other schools in other places teach abstinence only.

Some states demand Abstinence Only. Like Texas. Heck, Bush made a bill for groups to go into Africa and teach them abstinence as a way to control the spread of AIDS.

What a succesful campaign. South Africa is now the AIDS capitol of the world

Abstinence classes cause AIDS?

When did I say that?

You didn't. Just an idea I had that I believe needs further testing.

Well....

Teachers are authority figures.
Teenagers do like to do the opposite of whatever authority figures tell them.
Therefore:
Abstinence only teaching can cause an increase in AIDS.

Or...

People are going to have sex.
Telling them not to doesn't really do anything.
Since they do not know about birth control/protection they can't use it.

AIDS



( is code for sex.)