The Deeds of Alexander

'The Deeds of Alexander'
By Callisthenes of Olynthus

The Life and Exploits of Alexander the Great
By Callisthenes
Translated By Sir Ernest Alfred Wallis Budge
http://books.google.com/books?id=rSpAdHLT3rMC&pg=PR8#v=onepage&q&f=false

Callisthenes of Olynthus was a Greek historian during the time of Alexander III (the Great) of Macedon who was appointed by his uncle Aristotle to personally accompany Alexander on his campaigns in the east to write a history.  He died before Alexander, and his history was completed by others.  

'The Deeds of Alexander' by Callisthenes is the original official history of Alexnader's military campaigns, and it has been renamed as the 'Alexander Romance' by modern liars who call themselves scholars and who do not believe it is true.  Turning aside from the testimony of Callisthenes who actually accompanied Alexander on his travels, they rely primarily on the testimony of men who wrote several hundred years later such as Arrian, Plutarch, Quintus Curtius Rufus, or Diodorus Siculus (Theodore of Sicily).  The primary reason modern pseudo-intellectuals do not believe this history is they do not believe the flat earth cosmology contained within it.  

Among other deeds, Alexander conquers China and north Asia (not just Iran only) and conducts submarine travels in the far arctic north where he encounters islands of dog headed men, and he attempts journeys to the boundaries of the known world (which includes travel quite far beyond Persia).  Many moderners also have difficulty in accepting facts such as that Alexander's African origin as the book indicates that Pharoah Nectanebo, the last of the ancient pre-Alexander pharoahs, actually seduced Alexander's mother Olympia and fathered Alexander while Phillip II was away on a military campaign.  This actually serves to confirm the historical part of the major early Christian prophecy of Saint Methodios Bishop of Patara which indicates that Alexander's family has an Ethiopian origin.  Most modern historians ascribe the book to the second century after Christ merely because that is the date of the oldest known extant manuscript.  Having wrongly rejected the actual author, many modern scholars also ascribe the work to an evolutionary process of various writers since they clearly have no clue who wrote the book and cannot find a suitable alternative to simply accepting Callisthenes as the author.

This pre-Christian cosmography and history of Alexander by Callisthenes was accepted as true by pagan contemporaries, early and medieval Christian tradition, and the muslim tradition.  It is less than two hundred pages and packed with important cosmographical information.  It is invaluable for flat earth cosmology.

Callisthenes book was a major source for the flat earth cosmography of the fourth century Scythian (Russian) Christian traveller Aethicus of Istria whose cosmography has apparently been translated into english by M. W. Herren and is awaiting publication by Oxford Medieval Texts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_romance
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Callisthenes
http://www.livius.org/caa-can/callisthenes/callisthenes.html

'The Deeds of Alexander' By Callisthenes of Olythus
(The Alexander Romance)
http://www.amazon.com/Greek-Alexander-Romance-Penguin-Classics/dp/0140445609

'Alexander's Gate, Gog, Magog, and the Inclosed Nations' by Andrew Runni Anderson has a lot of material from many traditions and sources which all stem from Callisthenes's 'Deeds of Alexander.'  Professor Runni's book focuses on spectacular aspects of Callisthenes's history which takes place in the arctic north.

Excerpts from 'Alexander's Gate, Gog, Magog, and the Inclosed Nations':
http://www.iras.ucalgary.ca/~volk/sylvia/GogAndMagog.htm

Alexander never made it to China. He was blocked in India and had to take the desert route home.

Alexander never made it to China. He was blocked in India and had to take the desert route home.

He wasn't blocked, his men simply refused to follow him any further and demanded they return. Though he had some hard fighting, Alexander won his battles in India.

Quote from: EireEngineer on June 06, 2010, 09:29:08 AM

Alexander never made it to China. He was blocked in India and had to take the desert route home.

He wasn't blocked, his men simply refused to follow him any further and demanded they return. Though he had some hard fighting, Alexander won his battles in India.

As I said, he was blocked. I meant to say that his progress was blocked in India.  Without an army to lead, there was no way he could go further.  I suppose I could have worded it different, especially since I know what a bunch of semantic dithering twits this site is.

As a "moderner" I would have trouble placing complete faith in anything that contains "submarine travels in the far arctic north where he encounters islands of dog headed men" never mind the FE cosmology. How did Alexander make these submarine travels? Where is the evidence? If submarine travel was invented in the time of Alexander (356-323BC according to wikipedia) what happened to it for the (give or take) 2200 years between it and the modern military application of it? The real kicker though is the dog headed men. Where is the evidence for this? Why has noone else ever discovered this species? Where are these islands? Why has noone else ever been there? Where is the evidence to say this is even possible? In a record with such obvious fairytale elements everything must be taken with a pinch of salt until it can be proven true. So it is with dog headed men, 2200 year submarine technology capable of staving off the freezing temeratures of arctic waters and anything that talks of a flat earth.
To summarize: Where's the evidence?

Alexander never made it to China.

E. A. Wallis Budge's english translation of the 'Alexander Book in Ethiopia' (which is his translation of the Ethiopian manuscript version of Calisthenes's history) does in fact contain a detailed account which directly and blatantly contradicts this assumption.  Not to argue here its validity, but I will post below an excerpt from his translation of this Ethiopian manuscript history of the 'Deeds of Alexander' to illustrate how severely modern historiography differs from both tradition and original manuscript accounts of Alexander the great.  I also say tradition because Geoffrey Chaucer's Canterbury Tales, for example, states that the Alexander traditions referred to are such common knowledge.

  The highlights of the Alexandre in China story in the Ethiopian manuscript states that Alexander and twenty horsemen (and perhaps others) went to the gates of Xi'an, the ancient capitol of China.  He then went himself disguised as a messenger to the Emperor of China who said that they would not allow the greeks inside the city gates.  They did, however, agree to submit to them in every other way and pay tribute thus recognizing Alexander as their superior because God had given him power to conquer all the nations that he did, but they would rather fight and die than become slaves in their own land, and Alexander accepted these terms.  Thus, he did enter China and have China submit to him.  

In my opinion concerning Alexander's eastern kingdom of Bactria (which is subject to revision pending further research or evidence), Alexander's entire empire passed upon his death into the hands of his half-brother Philip Aridaeus who was unable to retain it for long, and this empire divided into four kingdoms towards the four winds of heaven:

1) East or Bactria (Afghanistan) - under which was subject India and China.  India revolted against this suzerainty a few decades later under its great leader Azoka while China's own Chin emperor revolted against Afghanistan's suzerainty about the very same time

2) West or Macedonia (Greece) under which were the parts of eupope which Alexander subjected which included Rome and Sicily according to the account by Callisthenes

3) South or Egypt (capitol at Alexandria) under which initially was both all of northern Africa and Ethiopia according to Callisthenes

4) North or Syria (capitol at Antioch in Syria) which included Persia and Scythia (i.e. Russia) as subjects.  The Babylonians (led by certain jewish rabbis) revolted against Antiochian rule in 250 B.C. which revolt formed into the Parthian empire which conquered and ruled Persian until 250 A.D.

Also, although I have not yet searched for references, I have heard historians in Greece mention the existence of communites of people in China who are Greek-Chinese descendents of Alexander and his  Macedonian army.  These particular Chinese maintain to this day a certain aloofness from other Chinese and also preserve Chinese customs which are more ancient than most other Chinese.  I learned in Chinese history in college of the Hui people of Ningzia Hui Province who are the descendents of arabs (which makes sense as they do live in the areas near (to the north of) Xi'an where the Silk Road ends.  These greek-chinese are simply descendents of a more ancient empire than that of the arabs - and apparently smaller in number than the Hui peoples.  

There also exist a respected minority in India of greek-indians who speak an ancient dialect of greek.  The entire history of greeks in India is summarized in

'The Greeks in India'
By Demetrios Vassiliades
http://www.amazon.com/Greeks-India-Survey-Philosophical-Understanding/dp/8121509211/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1276233469&sr=1-3

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Greeks

I mentioned the dog-headed men which are but one of the monstrous races of the north imprisoned by Alexander as this issue involves uncharted arctic islands, and any precise understanding of this is of immense value to flat earth cartography.

EDIT:

I am currently reading the following english translation of the greek version of Callisthenes's history:

'The Deeds of Alexander' By Callisthenes of Olythus
(The Alexander Romance)
http://www.amazon.com/Greek-Alexander-Romance-Penguin-Classics/dp/0140445609

This book indicates that after enountering the monstrous races in the UNSEEN WORLD IN THE NORTH, Alexander chased the monstrous races for fifty miles to the breasts of the north which are two great mountains.  

When dealing with ancient history, dont put too much stock in any single source.  I am sure there are many accounts of Alexander in Tartary, Japan, and sub-Saharan Africa, but that does not make them necessarily true. 

There are two main problems with Alexander's army reaching farther than the Indus valley.  First, is the preponderance of evidence. All along their travels Alexander's army founded cities (often named Alexandria, or variations thereof) and built monuments to Hellenistic culture. As far as I know, no evidence of such sites has ever turned up in China. There are many writings, including some made by Alexander's closest companions such as Ptolemy I, that clearly document the revolt of the army and the subsequent arduous return (Never trust an admiral...even one that you appoint) to Babylon.

The second problem is a bit stickier. Xi'an is 2000 miles as the crow flies from the Indus Valley and nearly 4000 miles away from Babylon.  Even if he didnt have to forage for an entire army, travel at a marching pace, stop to fight the occasional battle or negotiate with the local chieftain, etc. there is no way he could have made it back to Babylon in time to die at the age of 33.  I suppose you could try to make the argument that the accepted time line is inaccurate, but there is quite a bit of evidence that you would have to refute.

Is it posible? Sure, but it seems highly unlikely.  You will have to provide more than one story to convince me and the rest of the historical community. On a side note, ever read Peter Green's book on the subject? My daughter loved it.

... Even if he didnt have to forage for an entire army, travel at a marching pace, stop to fight the occasional battle or negotiate with the local chieftain, etc. there is no way he could have made it back to Babylon in time to die at the age of 33 ...

As John Davis has stated this forum is not the place for such speculations and debates.  If you want to contest anything, then initiate a post about it in a history category.

All along their travels Alexander's army founded cities (often named Alexandria, or variations thereof) and built monuments to Hellenistic culture. As far as I know, no evidence of such sites has ever turned up in China. There are many writings, including some made by Alexander's closest companions such as Ptolemy I, that clearly document the revolt of the army and the subsequent arduous return

Aside from the fact that Callisthenes of Olynthus (the author of the history which indicates Alexander subdued China) was also a personal companion of Alexander and that General Ptolemy and Callisthenes were personal enemies ( http://www.pothos.org/content/index.php?page=callisthenes ), Ptolemy's history is not even extant for use by historians today, and its existence is only known through writers who lived several centuries afterwards such as Arrian, Quintus Curtius Rufus, Plutarch, and Diodoros Siculus.

I know of a greek scholar who has a list of 28 cities named Alexandria founded by Alexandre which includes Alexandria-Cathay.  

That is besides the work of University of Athens Professor Theresa Mitsopoulou on the extensive connection between ancient Greek and Chinese civilization.
http://www.greecetravel.com/archaeology/mitsopoulou/
http://greecetravel.com/archaeology/mitsopoulou/interview.html

The essence of most of her theses are echoed in African scholar Martin Bernal's important three volume classic:
'Black Athena:  The Afroasiatic Roots of Classical Civilization:
The Fabrication of Ancient Greece:  1785-1985'

http://books.google.com/books?id=zzEPfGYudxMC&printsec=frontcover&dq=black+athena+volume+1&source=bl&ots=u47XpoTvAH&sig=in2cNKWDqaBcmByY-b-0iUKvCYw&hl=en&ei=zzwVTNjtBozqnQeNxKSeDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=11&ved=0CFQQ6AEwCg#v=onepage&q=black%20athena%20volume%201&f=false

I say that 'Black Athena' is especially important because Martin Bernal describes in detail the racist process of historical falsification which became established in eighteenth and early nineteenth century europe and is responsible for the prevalence of such non-sense as the dogmatic ignorance which believes and asserts that Alexander never went to Cathay (China), Greater Scythia (Siberia), or the Arctic ocean, but both ancients, easterners of all times, and even common uneducated people of medeival europe knew that he did.


FOUND IT - Here is the text on-line.  The details of Alexander's army at the walls of Xi'an begins on page 172 and continues to page 181:

The Life and Exploits of Alexander the Great
By Callisthenes
Translated by Ernest Alfred Wallis Budge
http://books.google.com/books?id=rSpAdHLT3rMC&pg=PR8#v=onepage&q&f=false

Incidentally, this story of Alexander the Great subduing China does have a preponderance of evidence as it is not limited to Ethiopian manuscripts, but appears in Syriac and many other manuscripts as well.

As I promised, here is the section of Callisthenes's 'Deeds of Alexander' which relates of Alexander the Great's meeting with the king of China taken from pages 172 to 181 of the Wallis Budge translation
( http://books.google.com/books?id=rSpAdHLT3rMC&pg=PR8#v=onepage&q&f=false ).  The Matyaas referred to in the story is Alexander himself disguised as one of his own ambassadors:

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"And I came on with twenty horsemen, and we marched until we arrived at the country of Kas Alexanderi-makatim, and we encamped therein for three days; then we marched from it for fifteen nights, passing through a region which was full of streams and watercourses, and we travelled through it.

And we departed from this place and marched again for fifteen nights, and we passed through caves which were beneath the mountains; now that road had not before been trodden by any other man. And we marched from that place and arrived in the country of China; now that country is called "Naas".

And I drew nigh unto one of my friends, and I commanded that they should not call me Alexander, and I made out myself to be a messenger of Alexander, the king of Greece. Now when I arrived at the gate of the city the people thereof marvelled at me, and said unto me, "Whence "hast thou come, and whither wouldst thou go in "this our country?" and they wished to lead me before their king. And when I had arrived at the gate of the king of China a captain went in and spake to the king, saying, "O king, behold
"there is an ambassador of the king of Greece "at the gate." And the king said to the captain, "Enquire diligently from him what he wisheth, and "why he hath come hither." Then the captain went out to him, and said unto him, "O ambassador, why hast thou come, and what dost "thou desire?" And I said unto him, "Thou art "a servant, and thy master who hath set thee in "his gate will be enraged at thy desiring to know "the secret things which appertain unto kings before "he himself knoweth them; I am sent unto the king "of China, and not unto thee." Then he went in and told these words to his master. And the king of China commanded that they should spread out costly stuffs upon a couch, and the couch was made of gold ornamented with jewels and inlaid with a design in gold; and he sat in his recephall, and his princes and nobles were round about him, and when he spake they made answer unto him and spake submissively. Then he commanded the captain to bring in Alexander the ambassador.

Now when I had come in with the captain he made me to stand before the king, and the men stood up dressed in raiment of gold and silver; and I stood [there] a long time and none spake unto me. Then the captain came to me and spake unto me haughtily, saying, "To "whom hast thou come? Who hath sent thee? "What dost thou need? Tell me, that thou mayest "not die." And I spake unto the captain, saying, "Thou art a servant, as I have already told thee. "I was not sent unto thee, but unto the king, and "it is not meet that a captain should know things "before the king. I will not declare my embassy "to any but him, and to him alone." Now when he had seen and heard these things from me, he commanded me to speak unto the king of China; and the king made me to sit by his side upon the couch.

And he said unto me, "Who art thou? "Who hath sent thee? And what dost thou want?"
And I said, "I am an ambassador of the Two-horned one, the king of the Greeks."
Then he said unto me, "Who is this Two-horned one?"
And I said unto him, "He is a Macedonian. He is the "king of the earth, and he is a man {or servant) of God, and he is the prince of all the armies of the earth."
Then he said unto me, "Where is this country of Macedonia?"
And I said unto him, "It is away to the west, and is nigh unto the place where the sun setteth."
And he said unto me, "Where hast thou left this Two-horned "one?"
And I said, "He is near and is not far from the borders of thy country."
And he said unto me, "Why hath he sent thee to me, and what dost thou desire?"

And I said, "The glorious God hath bestowed upon him dominion over all the kings of the world, and whosoever will not submit unto him willingly must do so by  force, and he hath sent me to bring thee to him, for God hath made him to be governor of [all] the inhabitants of the world. Whosoever hearkeneth unto him, and submitteth unto him, to him will he act graciously and strengthen him in his kingdom, but whosoever will not submit him will he destroy, and he will lay waste his land, and he will wipe out his cities, and he will make his people to be servants in his house. But, if one hath not made thee acquainted with these things, ask and learn concerning Darius, the king of Persia, if there was ever in the world a king
who was greater than he, or who had more power, or who was richer, or who had more arms or a larger army. Yet when he acted wickedly God Almighty ordered what [the Two-horned one] did unto him, and he slew him, and set aside his kingdom, and laid waste his country. And again as concerning the mighty Porus, the Defeat of king of India, unto whom had been given wealth, and honour, and arms, and horsemen, and footmen, when he acted wickedly and would not submit to him, and was obstinate before him, God cast him down and destroyed his country. Now when my master heard tell of thy kingdom, he wished to send an army against thee, and to lay waste thy country, and to destroy thy cities. But he heard that thou wert a wise and an understanding man, and he hath sent me unto thee, while he himself hath encamped on the borders of thy territory, saying, 'Go and bring [him] to me, for, according to what hath been told to me, he is a wise man. If he hearkeneth and "becometh subject [unto me], leave him [to rule] over his kingdom; but if he acteth wickedly, and sheweth himself obstinate, I myself will come together with my army, and I will do battle with him.'"

The king of China when he had heard these words from me, he spake, saying,
"O Metyaos,' [return] to thy master, and tell him [this my] answer to thy message to us:
?I have heard concerning what "hath been given unto thee by God Almighty, "and how sovereignty hath been given unto thee in the world, and victory over Darius, the king of Persia, and over Porus, the king of India. Now although [divers] nations have sub"mitted unto thee and thou hast conquered kings, thou must know that this hath not happened because God Almighty hath magnified thee, but victory is [by reason of His] vengeance and wrath hath He sent thee to do what He desired. And, moreover, victory hath been given unto thee over them because their days had come to an end, and because the period of their existence had been brought to a close; for this reason He willed to destroy them out of the world. And fate hath exalted thee and hath abased them, because God Almighty hath given unto thee what He hath never given unto any who were before thee, or shall give unto any who shall come after thee. Now, do thou thyself consider and know these things, and let not thy position in this world lead thee astray, for fortune is a fickle thing. And it hath, moreover, destroyed those who were before thee; and it will come upon thee, in thy turn, although thou hast been master of it; and do not thou put confidence in it, for it will depart from thee [to go] to another man, and thou wilt pass away naked. Further, it will destroy thee thyself, together with those nations whose days have passed and whose time is ended. Thou imaginest that it is by thy mighty men of war and by thy strength that Alexander thou hast conquered them, but it is God Almighty who hath sent thee against them as a mark of punishment for their sins. Now as concerning thy message that I should come to thee, behold, "thy ambassador and servant hath delivered it unto me, but be not angry with me because I do not come unto thee in the flesh, for my speech cometh unto thee as befitteth thy command, and hearken and submit myself unto God and unto thee. Now do not come to our country and do not make war with us, for we will give unto "thee service and tribute; moreover, we have never surrendered to our foes, no man hath ever vanquished us, and we have never been subject unto any; and this I say because there existeth none who is able to meet us in battle. And as "concerning thy desire to come to us, behold, if our days have passed, and our time is ended, thou wilt do unto us even as thou hast done to Darius, the king of Persia, and to Porus, the king of India, but we should choose death rather than life if we were to become men who "were disgraced in our own country. Know, however, that if thy days and thy time have "drawn to an end thou thyself wilt die by our hands. Now this world is fleeting, and it abideth not "long for any, especially for us who are the children of men. Yet we weary ourselves everywhere in the world, and our transgressions, and the slaughter of our neighbour committed by us for the sake of the goods of this world, are manifold, and [finally] we must leave them [all] against our will, and no one thing remaineth [unto us], except the victory wherewith God Almighty, the Conqueror, hath made us victors. And since we leave that which we have gathered together to others, we give up the world to men".

And thus he ended his message. And he gave gifts to Matyaas the ambassador, and he said unto him, "Go to Alexander and salute him fervently with "many salutations, and say unto him, 'Thy servant "enquireth concerning thee and concerning thy "well-being. And behold I send unto thee gifts "for thine acceptance.'" And he sent unto him the crown which was upon his head, saying, "It befitteth thee more than me." And he sent unto him garments of finely woven stuff, one hundred pounds in weight, and again, he sent him two hundred tents, and men-servants and maid-servants; and two hundred shields of elephant hide; and two hundred Indian swords mounted in gold and ornamented with gold and precious stones of great value; and two hundred horses suitable for [the use of] kings; and seven thousand pieces of ... and one thousand loads of the finest gold and silver, for in this country are situated the mountains wherefrom they dig gold.

Now the wall of that city is built of gold ore and likewise the habitations of the people, and from this place Solomon, the son of David, brought the gold with which he built the sanctuary, and he made the vessels and the shields of the gold of the land of China. And again the king of China brought for Alexander one hundred shrines of gold, upon [the backs of] wild asses; and five hundred men-servants and maid-servants, the like of which existed not ?and glory be to God Who created them!?and one thousand iron swords and helmets; and twenty snakes' horns, each of which was a cubit long. Each and all of these things of his possessions did he send away after me borne on camels, and afterwards I wished heartily that I had left him without any of them, but I was afraid [to give them back] lest he should discover who I was, and lest he should seize me, and do unto me according to his desire. Now, although I took all these things against my will, I said unto the bearers of them, "In God's sight all these things "are as nothing at all."

After these things I returned to my soldiers and commanded them to march from that place, and I left behind in that palace which I had begun to build of cedar wood, and which they were ornamenting with precious stones, certain of my friends that they might finish the building thereof, and so make a memorial of me [which should endure] until God shall inherit the earth and all that there is upon it. Now I had already founded one city in the land of Egypt, and I had called it "Alexandria the Great", and this smaller city I called "Alexandria the Less".

Then we turned away from the mountains, and we departed and marched through a desert country ..."

'After these things I returned to my soldiers and commanded them to march from that place, and I left behind in that palace which I had begun to build of cedar wood, and which they were ornamenting with precious stones, certain of my friends that they might finish the building thereof, and so make a memorial of me [which should endure] until God shall inherit the earth and all that there is upon it. Now I had already founded one city in the land of Egypt, and I had called it "Alexandria the Great", and this smaller city I called "Alexandria the Less".'

This paragraph indicates:

1) The city 'Alexandria-the-Less' is that Alexandria which is in China, or Alexandria-Cathay

and

2) The Greeks left by Alexander to build this city are evidently the ancestors of the community of Greek-Chinese of whom I had learned

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'And I came on with twenty horsemen, and we marched until we arrived at the country of Kas Alexanderi-makatim, and we encamped therein for three days; then we marched from it for fifteen nights, passing through a region which was full of streams and watercourses, and we travelled through it.

And we departed from this place and marched again for fifteen nights, and we passed through caves which were beneath the mountains; now that road had not before been trodden by any other man. And we marched from that place and arrived in the country of China; now that country is called "Naas".'

With reference to an older debate and to Sandokhan's and James McIntyre's credit, this passage actually confirms the existence of subterranean tunnels in the vicinity of Tibet and central Asia (but not necessarily however in the arctic north).

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If such details as Alexander's travel to China are not desribed in detail by writers like Arrian, the fact that Arrian concentrated upon military campaigns and the fact that Alexander was primarily accompanied by twenty horsemen and did not fight any battles with the Chinese satisfactorily explains Arrian's lack of detail on this.

The Campaigns of Alexander
By Arrian
http://www.archive.org/details/arrianar01arriuoft

Its an interesting, if extremely unlikely, theory to be sure. Since your ideas dont hold up to scrutiny, as evidenced by your earlier whining about debate, I will leave your thread.  Have fun storming the castle.

Its an interesting, if extremely unlikely, theory to be sure. Since your ideas dont hold up to scrutiny, as evidenced by your earlier whining about debate, I will leave your thread.  Have fun storming the castle.

It is not whining, it is the rules and they are there for a reason.  Thank you for respecting them.

28 CITIES FOUNDED BY ALEXANDER III

Note:  This work in progress is an attempt to reconstruct the complete list until an actual copy of it is retrieved.  As I mentioned before, a complete list of 28 cities does exist, and several classical scholars in Greece are in possession of such an annotated list which has been compiled.  Any information towards its completion here would be appreciated. 

In reference to a previous comment, Alexandria-Arachosorium which is modern Qandahar, Afghanistan is actually very close to the western border of China.  The exact location of Alexandria-the-Lesser in Cathay (China) would be very much appreciated. 

Also, while a reference to an Alexandria from ancient Greece itself would be appreciated, be aware that the Alexandropoulis of modern northwestern Greece has already been discounted since it is a creation of the early twentieth century named after the Russian tsar who freed the serfs and not the ancient Macedonian.

1 ) Alexandria-the-Greater (Alexandria-in-Egypt)
2 ) Alexandria-among-the-Horpae (Harpassus)
3 ) Alexandria-the-Strongest
4 ) Alexandria-in-Scythia (Kherson, Ukraine / Mouth of Dnieper River on Black Sea)
5 ) Alexandria-on-the-River-Crepis (Cypris)
6 ) Alexandria-Troas (Ancient Troy / East Bank of Hellespont, Turkey)
7 ) Alexandria-Babylon (Hilla, Iraq)
8 ) Alexandria-in-Persia
9 ) Alexandria-for-the-Horse-Bucephalus
10) Alexandria-by-Porus
11) Alexandria-on-the-Tigris
12) Alexandria-among-the-Massagetae
13) Alexandria-by-the-Caucausus (Alexandria-among-the-Parapamisadae)
14) Alexandria-Scabiosa (Iskenderun, Syria / Hatay, Turkey)
15) Alexandria-on-the-Oxus (Ai Khnoum, Bactria / Afghanistan)
16) Alexandria-by-the-Pentapolis (Ancient Chettus, port of Memphis, Egypt)
17) Alexandria-Nicaea (India)
18) Alexandria-Eschate (Khodzhent / Leninabad), Tajikistan (ancient Sogdiana) near Syr Darya / Jaxartes River)
19) Alexandria-the-Lesser (Cathay / China)
20) Alexandria-Arachosorium (Qandahar, Afghanistan / Bactria)

Interesting that he didnt found any cities east of Bactria.  You would think that someone with an ego that big would have kept founding them on his way to China.....

Interesting that he didnt found any cities east of Bactria.  You would think that someone with an ego that big would have kept founding them on his way to China.....

He did.  Pay attention to detail:

19) Alexandria-the-Lesser (Cathay / China)

This is the item I was referring to when I asked particularly for any information as to the location of this city in China.

The exact location of Alexandria-the-Lesser in Cathay (China) would be very much appreciated.

 
Also, since I did not get a copy of the list of 28 Alexandrias which I heard about in Greece this list which I have compiled is incomplete - it is a work in progress.  I will be posting references to sources including the name of the greek university history professor whom I will perhaps track down to get this information.  Any supplemental information from others would be appreciated as well. 

Seeing as that is the only one in China, I still find it somewhat doubtful.  Why found a nearly unbroken line of cities, and then leapfrog all the way to China without founding ones in between?  I also find it interesting that a google for Alexandria-the-Lesser only seems to come up with your post here?  Where exactly was this city again?

Seeing as that is the only one in China, I still find it somewhat doubtful.  Why found a nearly unbroken line of cities, and then leapfrog all the way to China without founding ones in between?  I also find it interesting that a google for Alexandria-the-Lesser only seems to come up with your post here?  Where exactly was this city again?

Listen, this isn't a debate board. If you want to talk about this, open a topic up in one of the other boards. I can even turn the debate posts into a new topic if you like, but this board is meant simply as a place where users can post sources and information related to FET.

I can even turn the debate posts into a new topic if you like

That is a great idea.  If you could cleanse this thread of all the exclusively debate oriented posts and recast them in a new thread, then that would be appreciated.  I will post a link to it in the opening post of this thread.  After you remove the unnecessary posts from this thread, then I will remove any strictly unnecessary portions of my own posts that correspond to such posts.

As a matter of fact, since some of the information in this thread was researched after the initial post, then I will consolidate my posts in this thread into ONE WELL ORGANIZED POST which I will post as a new topic after which you can delete this thread. 

The objective here is to make available a mother load of relevant information in a clear and concise way so people will not have to dig for it.  Debate posts defeat the entire purpose.  As a matter of fact, I suggest for consideration among the moderators that any new topic in Flat Earth Information Repository contain a link to its own "debate and deliberation thread."  Even if some of these "debate and deliberation threads" contained nothing beyond their initial post, such a policy would once and for all eliminate all extraneous matter from this entire category.

Contrary comments by persons such as Eire Enigineer who obviously have some interest in this can be useful even if they disagree especially when such comments are detailed, but a discussion of that nature is unacceptable in this thread by any of us.