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I can't believe this place really exists

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krzych32

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Re: I can't believe this place really exists
« Reply #30 on: May 30, 2010, 11:35:33 PM »
WardoggKC130FE, if you ARE a pilot, then just jump into the plane and fly around the earthy.  Film it, and you will prove us wrong.
But I'm sure that you are not a pilot, you have never even been in a plane before......
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Tom Bishop

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Re: I can't believe this place really exists
« Reply #31 on: May 31, 2010, 01:22:21 AM »
Curvature is not seen from commercial altitudes.
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Johnny Walker

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Re: I can't believe this place really exists
« Reply #32 on: May 31, 2010, 01:53:47 AM »
Is is seen on the beach when you look out to the sea. 
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Re: I can't believe this place really exists
« Reply #33 on: May 31, 2010, 04:03:55 AM »
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WardoggKC130FE

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Re: I can't believe this place really exists
« Reply #34 on: May 31, 2010, 07:21:22 AM »
Quote from: krzych32 on May 30, 2010, 11:35:33 PM
WardoggKC130FE, if you ARE a pilot, then just jump into the plane and fly around the earthy.  Film it, and you will prove us wrong.
But I'm sure that you are not a pilot, you have never even been in a plane before......

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=39330.0
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Dr Disprover

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Re: I can't believe this place really exists
« Reply #35 on: May 31, 2010, 07:27:13 AM »
I've been on a concorde, I've seen the curvature of the earth. And if Bendy-light was true, what if when you saw a seemingly flat surface from an airplane you could see the curvature of the earth?
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WardoggKC130FE

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Re: I can't believe this place really exists
« Reply #36 on: May 31, 2010, 07:41:57 AM »
Quote from: Dr Disprover on May 31, 2010, 07:27:13 AM
I've been on a concorde, I've seen the curvature of the earth. And if Bendy-light was true, what if when you saw a seemingly flat surface from an airplane you could see the curvature of the earth?

And the slight curve in the concorde windows wouldnt account for that?
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Dr Disprover

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Re: I can't believe this place really exists
« Reply #37 on: May 31, 2010, 08:12:02 AM »
Here's the thing. Your photo and my photo don't prove anything. Bendy-light crap makes any 'I can see the curvature of the earth in this photo!!!' pointless.

Light bends, but it takes a truly massive object to curve it. (Aka a RE-type sun) And since gravity is required to make earth curve, the only gravity in a flat earth universe comes from celestial objects, making it seem like you're not on the outside, but inside of a sphere.

While if a RE could bend light, it would make the earth seem even more curved.

(The only time people have seen light bend naturally is during solar eclipses, which proved relativety correct, or near black holes, making earth impossible to bend light either way)

An atmosphere would more likely make things blurrier, not changing thier shape.


Conclusion? Your photo is at too low of an altitude to see curvature, while the concorde flies high enough to view the curvature of the earth, and the inability of earth to bend light proves no line-curving phenomena.
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markjo

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Re: I can't believe this place really exists
« Reply #38 on: May 31, 2010, 08:15:43 AM »
Quote from: WardoggKC130FE on May 31, 2010, 07:41:57 AM
Quote from: Dr Disprover on May 31, 2010, 07:27:13 AM
I've been on a concorde, I've seen the curvature of the earth. And if Bendy-light was true, what if when you saw a seemingly flat surface from an airplane you could see the curvature of the earth?

And the slight curve in the concorde windows wouldnt account for that?

No, it wouldn't.  The windows in the Concorde are curved in one axis (vertical).  In order to provide the necessary distortion, the windows would need to be curved in 2 axes (horizontal and vertical).
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Dr Disprover

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Re: I can't believe this place really exists
« Reply #39 on: May 31, 2010, 08:19:55 AM »
But the windows do not cause distortion, the aircraft flies at a high enough altitude to see the physical curvature of the earth.
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Re: I can't believe this place really exists
« Reply #40 on: May 31, 2010, 08:30:03 AM »
Quote from: WardoggKC130FE on May 31, 2010, 07:41:57 AM
And the slight curve in the concorde windows wouldnt account for that?

Well if it did then the earth would look round while the plane was on the tarmac.
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jackofhearts

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Re: I can't believe this place really exists
« Reply #41 on: May 31, 2010, 04:40:09 PM »
If FE'ers argued that plane windows distorted the horizon in high altitudes, they'd distort everything, which they don't.
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Re: I can't believe this place really exists
« Reply #42 on: June 01, 2010, 03:19:26 AM »
Quote from: krzych32 on May 26, 2010, 07:56:15 PM
Really?  Flat Earth?!  Even when you fly a plain and look in the distance, you can see that the earth is clearly round (it looks pritty cool actually).  I'm pritty sure that who ever created this side pulled a great joke on everyone tha even considered this theory.  But just for the sake of amusenment, convince me that the Earth is flat, give me one good scientific proof.

what have you got against using the letter E correctly. Lexiist
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WardoggKC130FE

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Re: I can't believe this place really exists
« Reply #43 on: June 01, 2010, 03:23:13 AM »
Airplane windows in the cabin distort your view...im sorry but its the truth whether you want to believe it or not.  The glass is too thick and attached to a curved fuselage.  Its a fact.  The edges being the most prominent.  


http://www.wikihow.com/Take-Good-Photos-from-an-Airplane-Window-Seat

The photographer adressess this fact  in step three.
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jackofhearts

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Re: I can't believe this place really exists
« Reply #44 on: June 01, 2010, 04:02:55 AM »
Quote from: WardoggKC130FE on June 01, 2010, 03:23:13 AM
Airplane windows in the cabin distort your view...im sorry but its the truth whether you want to believe it or not.  The glass is too thick and attached to a curved fuselage.  Its a fact.  The edges being the most prominent.  


http://www.wikihow.com/Take-Good-Photos-from-an-Airplane-Window-Seat

The photographer adressess this fact  in step three.


Can you even prove that the distortion caused by the window would cause the curvature seen in high-altitude photographs?   I seriously doubt that this curvature conveniently produces a clean, steady curvature in the Earth. 
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WardoggKC130FE

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Re: I can't believe this place really exists
« Reply #45 on: June 01, 2010, 04:10:15 AM »
Quote from: jackofhearts on June 01, 2010, 04:02:55 AM
Quote from: WardoggKC130FE on June 01, 2010, 03:23:13 AM
Airplane windows in the cabin distort your view...im sorry but its the truth whether you want to believe it or not.  The glass is too thick and attached to a curved fuselage.  Its a fact.  The edges being the most prominent.  


http://www.wikihow.com/Take-Good-Photos-from-an-Airplane-Window-Seat

The photographer adressess this fact  in step three.


Can you even prove that the distortion caused by the window would cause the curvature seen in high-altitude photographs?   I seriously doubt that this curvature conveniently produces a clean, steady curvature in the Earth. 

The fact that there is a distortion makes all pics from the cabin....suspect.
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jackofhearts

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Re: I can't believe this place really exists
« Reply #46 on: June 01, 2010, 04:12:47 AM »
Quote from: WardoggKC130FE on June 01, 2010, 04:10:15 AM
Quote from: jackofhearts on June 01, 2010, 04:02:55 AM
Quote from: WardoggKC130FE on June 01, 2010, 03:23:13 AM
Airplane windows in the cabin distort your view...im sorry but its the truth whether you want to believe it or not.  The glass is too thick and attached to a curved fuselage.  Its a fact.  The edges being the most prominent.  


http://www.wikihow.com/Take-Good-Photos-from-an-Airplane-Window-Seat

The photographer adressess this fact  in step three.


Can you even prove that the distortion caused by the window would cause the curvature seen in high-altitude photographs?   I seriously doubt that this curvature conveniently produces a clean, steady curvature in the Earth. 

The fact that there is a distortion makes all pics from the cabin....suspect.

'Suspect' is hardly good enough.
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Crustinator

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Re: I can't believe this place really exists
« Reply #47 on: June 01, 2010, 06:35:43 AM »
Quote from: WardoggKC130FE on June 01, 2010, 03:23:13 AM
The photographer adressess this fact  in step three.

Indeed, and he gives tips on how to eliminate such distortion.
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