Lets talk about the Tropic lines.

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Re: Lets talk about the Tropic lines.
« Reply #30 on: May 27, 2010, 08:01:02 AM »
Where's the data?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/capricorn/7219910.stm

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Tropic_of_Cancer

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincenty's_formulae

The rest of the data is a mere Google search away, you lazy git.
These links provide no data since they are some calculations done by using formulas that assume the Earth is a spheroid.

ONE link makes that assumption and since the calculations done using that assumption agree with the actual distances in reality then it adds weight to the assumption being correct. If the assumption was completely wrong, all the figures obtained by doing the calculation would be completely screwy - but oddly enough, they aren't.

And, yet, there is no such thing. Those BBC articles explicitly refer to the formulas from the third article as the means they used to calculate the lengths of these imaginary lines on the Earth's surface.

Individual sections of the line are of known length by other means of measuring. Blow it out your ass.
By what means and what individual lines?

Do a search.
Burden of proof, etc.

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Thermal Detonator

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Re: Lets talk about the Tropic lines.
« Reply #31 on: May 27, 2010, 08:11:57 AM »
Where's the data?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/capricorn/7219910.stm

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Tropic_of_Cancer

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincenty's_formulae

The rest of the data is a mere Google search away, you lazy git.
These links provide no data since they are some calculations done by using formulas that assume the Earth is a spheroid.

ONE link makes that assumption and since the calculations done using that assumption agree with the actual distances in reality then it adds weight to the assumption being correct. If the assumption was completely wrong, all the figures obtained by doing the calculation would be completely screwy - but oddly enough, they aren't.

And, yet, there is no such thing. Those BBC articles explicitly refer to the formulas from the third article as the means they used to calculate the lengths of these imaginary lines on the Earth's surface.

Individual sections of the line are of known length by other means of measuring. Blow it out your ass.
By what means and what individual lines?

Do a search.
Burden of proof, etc.

Ohhh, too bad. Fail right there. Burden of proof mention = FES equivalent of Godwin's Law.
Gayer doesn't live in an atmosphere of vaporised mustard like you appear to, based on your latest photo.

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Re: Lets talk about the Tropic lines.
« Reply #32 on: May 30, 2010, 02:19:02 AM »
Burden of proof, etc.

You're the one asking him the question, you should go find out for yourself.


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Re: Lets talk about the Tropic lines.
« Reply #33 on: May 30, 2010, 02:30:54 AM »
Burden of proof, etc.

You're the one asking him the question, you should go find out for yourself.



He's the one making unjustified claims on this forum. He should be the one to come up with the data.

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flyingmonkey

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Re: Lets talk about the Tropic lines.
« Reply #34 on: May 30, 2010, 07:17:27 AM »
Here: lets make it kindergarten grade for you


We know that cities are specific distances from each other (unless you want to argue that the conspiracy is a million times larger than what is believed) we know of cities that are on each tropic line.

From city to city, following the tropic line, until we reach the first city again we can get a rough figure of how large it is.

A->B  B->C  C->D  D->A  = A->>A = distance around tropic.


Compare each tropic and notice how they are actually very similar sizes, and also notice how the equator is larger than both.

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Re: Lets talk about the Tropic lines.
« Reply #35 on: May 30, 2010, 07:59:09 AM »
we know of cities that are on each tropic line.
We do? Which one are those?

From city to city, following the tropic line, until we reach the first city again we can get a rough figure of how large it is.

A->B  B->C  C->D  D->A  = A->>A = distance around tropic.
First of all, assuming you have found sufficiently many of them, how will you measure the distance between them along the tropic? Neither in RE, nor in FE is the shortest distance along a latittude line.

Compare each tropic and notice how they are actually very similar sizes, and also notice how the equator is larger than both.
Ok, why don't you do that and get back to us.

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flyingmonkey

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Re: Lets talk about the Tropic lines.
« Reply #36 on: May 30, 2010, 08:01:08 AM »
Can't say I'm an FEer so this experiment is not for me.


You on the otherhand.

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Re: Lets talk about the Tropic lines.
« Reply #37 on: May 30, 2010, 08:04:11 AM »
Can't say I'm an FEer so this experiment is not for me.


You on the otherhand.
According to FE, we only known that the Tropic of Capricorn > Equator > Tropic of Cancer. According to RE, we must have Tropic of Capricorn = Tropic of Cancer. Which of these conditions is more stringent?

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flyingmonkey

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Re: Lets talk about the Tropic lines.
« Reply #38 on: May 30, 2010, 08:16:07 AM »
RE:
ToCan ~= ToCap
and
ToCan < Eq > ToCap


FE:
ToCan < ToCap
and
ToCan < Eq < ToCap

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Re: Lets talk about the Tropic lines.
« Reply #39 on: May 30, 2010, 08:19:57 AM »
That's right, a pendulum is not evidence of a round earth.  It's evidence of a rotating earth.

True, although according to the pendulum, the inner half of the flat earth seems to be rotating in an opposite direction to the out half! ZOMG!

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Re: Lets talk about the Tropic lines.
« Reply #40 on: May 30, 2010, 08:22:09 AM »
RE:
ToCan ~= ToCap
and
ToCan < Eq > ToCap


FE:
ToCan < ToCap
and
ToCan < Eq < ToCap
So, what is the critical region where you will dismiss the FE hypothesis?

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flyingmonkey

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Re: Lets talk about the Tropic lines.
« Reply #41 on: May 30, 2010, 08:28:18 AM »
Well, ignoring the first part of each statement (because ToCan can be larger than ToCap but still ~= so there can be stupid arguments there) we are left with one or the other.

You cannot have the Equator larger than both and also not larger than both at the same time.


Obviously, from this, we can dismiss either model depending on the results gathered.

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Re: Lets talk about the Tropic lines.
« Reply #42 on: May 30, 2010, 09:23:18 PM »


Also another question why do some FET have a creepy picture themselves as their avatar and its all with the same break round and they are all old white men...

Yeah, I've wondered that.

They're part of a conspiracy to keep the vast amounts of people online busy so as to draw them away from events in Iraq and Afghanistan. It has failed miserably.
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Re: Lets talk about the Tropic lines.
« Reply #43 on: May 31, 2010, 03:10:19 AM »
RE:
ToCan ~= ToCap
and
ToCan < Eq > ToCap


FE:
ToCan < ToCap
and
ToCan < Eq < ToCap

There is also the equally likely to FE'ers:
ToCan > ToCap
and ToCan > Eq > ToCap

in accordance with the Schrodinger's Map principle where Antarctica is also at the centre until proven unjustified.
Gayer doesn't live in an atmosphere of vaporised mustard like you appear to, based on your latest photo.