Thanks for your response. It is actually quite nice to see an FET believer who actually has some depth of character and thought. We disagree in our conclusions, but at least, I can respect your conclusions.
You are welcome my friend. In your attitude you surpass many other globularists who post here seeking answers; I commend you. I am glad we are entering this voyage of discovery with mutual respect and understanding.
As for illogical arguments by FET believers, I'll give you one brief example.. attempting to prove that evolution supports the existence of a flat Earth. This is illogical because evolutionary theory cannot be used in this way. Evolutionary theory merely gives one links and transitions between the various fossils and findings at hand... so if FET believers develop a theory based on their finding of a flat earth, it holds no meaning for the RET believers who base their evolutionary theory on a round earth. It is silly and illogical of them to think it would have any important in a debate.
That is interesting, and not a response which I have yet encountered. However, I wish to ask of you, in what way are the theories of evolution based on, or reliant on, the Round Earth theory? I am not so sure that they are, we should establish this before proceding.
Another example is trying to prove that since the word Earth relates to a flat piece of land, therefore, the Earth is flat. That actually transcends illogical and enters the territory of the idiotic.
I am not sure which of my esteemed colleagues has made this argument. Now, of course, there are two possible senses in which the Earth
does relate to a flat piece of land. The first, in that by our claims the Earth
is a flat piece of land. Now, if this were the spirit of the argument, I agree it would be illogical. It would be a circular argument of the worst kind, and the argument would fall flat.
Now, there is a second sense of the saying, in which the Earth relates to a piece of flat land. Now I am not sure that this second sense is indeed illogical. I would ask you to reconsider - the Earth relates to a piece of flat land, because for every piece of land, the Earth relates to that land, and since a flat piece of land is a piece of land, the Earth relates to a flat piece of land.
It is an argument of following form:
Let L(x) = x is a piece of [L]and
Let R(x) = the Earth [R]elates to x
Let f = a [F]lat piece of land
∀xL(x) → R(x)
L(f)
⊢
R(f)
Now, this is the logical operation known as the
modus ponens, and I assure you it is logically valid.
So you see the claim that the Earth relates to a piece of flat land is not illogical when we consider the other premises revealed to us by thorough zetetic inquiry. My zetetic meditations have revealed to me that the Earth relates to every piece of land, and that a flat piece of land is a piece of land. I suspect that your zetetic meditations will offer you similar conclusions.
I agree that it is not necessary to blindly swallow scientific dogma. This is a very harsh guideline to follow in that most scientific data would have to be discarded due to limitations in the individual's expertise and materials to confirm testing.. but nonetheless it is an ideal which is legitimate.
Ah yes, yes, and that is why there is so much work to be done by I and my zetetic brothers. Some of us must discover the zetetic meditations, others must construct the logical derivations. So you see zeteticism is a science founded entirely on logic.
However, how can one who holds such harsh ideals for the acceptance of scientific data turn around and then start mythologizing about sky mirrors and ice walls and all other sorts of wholly unsubstantiated phenomena? Why not hold those ideas to the same rigid standards? That is what I call hypocrisy.
And yet these are not mythologies, these things are the derivations of zetetic science. Every belief is held to the same standards in zetetic study. To the uninitiated these seem eclectic and mysterious. To those in full development of the zetetic and logical faculties, combined in harmony, this process is transparent and absolute.
I hope this post is of great help to you my friend. Go well in study.