So...

There was a thread about TFES getting noticed in the news. One of the articles, the one I read, said "He thinks the Earth is flat, what planet is he from?" That doesn't sound like they're taking you seriously. And Fox News simply cited that BBC article. Wouldn't it be fair to conclude that you guys aren't taken seriously? And wouldn't it make Wilmore look stupid for locking said thread?

Isn't the fact that they covered us evidence that they take us seriously in some way?

Isn't the fact that they covered us evidence that they take us seriously in some way?

"He thinks the Earth is flat, what planet is he from?"

Sounds like you're taken so seriously. That sounds like sarcasm. I wouldn't be proud. Scientology is covered in the news as well, but not in a positive light.

I locked the thread because the 'Announcements' section is for precisely that - announcements. It's not a debate board.


As whether they took us seriously or not, as Sean says they reported on us as an actual organisation, and quoted our President verbatim. They may not agreee with our theories, and they may think we're kooks, but the articles certainly take us seriously as a society.

Articles about Scientology make them look like kooks, are you saying you're as legit as Scientology?

What are you talking about? We all know that FET is a fringe theory, and that the FES is a fringe organisation. We don't expect people to hear our theory, nod their heads and agree. However, that doesn't change the fact that by covering us, they're taking us seriously.

but the articles certainly take us seriously as a society.

Once again, no they don't. TFES is whimsy news. It is and always will be.

Oil spill - srzbznz
Gaza - srzbsns
Shift in global economic power - srxbxnx
Reformation of medical care -srsbzns

TFES - whimsy

When you come to accept this you will return to the cool and carefree member you once were.

Their motivation for writing about us (be it a slow news day or 'whimsy') is irrelevant. All that matters is that they acknowledge there is an organisation which is genuinely committed to the belief that the Earth is flat. That constitutes taking us seriously.


Nobody is suggesting that the existence of FES is up there with major world events, or even close, but that doesn't mean the Guardian/BBC didn't take us seriously. This is all just needless contrariness on the part of bitter RE'ers.

Things like Area 51 harbouring aliens and the moon landings being hoaxed were largely ignored before the internet and especially by mainstream media.  Followers of these ideas were largley frowned upon.  As the mainstream media realised that there was a growing base of people who believed in these ideas, so did new snippets and eventually documentaries come out in support.  Now thanks to BBC shows and the like, there is a larger than ever proportion of people believing in this stuff.  Now people may scoff at FET now, but with more exposure who knows what will happen?

Things like Area 51 harbouring aliens and the moon landings being hoaxed were largely ignored before the internet and especially by mainstream media.  Followers of these ideas were largley frowned upon.  As the mainstream media realised that there was a growing base of people who believed in these ideas, so did new snippets and eventually documentaries come out in support.  Now thanks to BBC shows and the like, there is a larger than ever proportion of people believing in this stuff.  Now people may scoff at FET now, but with more exposure who knows what will happen?

LOL He thinks Area 51 has little green men.
Yea thats a GREAT way to treat an advanced race... you know if you want to nuked back to the stone-age.
Any race with FTL surely would look upon us as no better then ants to our selves.

the USAF use UFOs as a cover story for advanced aircraft; what better way to hide them if seen?
USAF Officers have admitted to using UFO reports as back up tracking for spy balloons...
Moon landings were real again as others have said the Russians would LOVED to out the US on that but didnt say a word.

Moon landings were real again as others have said the Russians would LOVED to out the US on that but didnt say a word.

Other space agencies are also controlled by The Conspiracy, not just NASA.

Quote from: Space Tourist on May 18, 2010, 07:35:09 AM

Moon landings were real again as others have said the Russians would LOVED to out the US on that but didnt say a word.

Other space agencies are also controlled by The Conspiracy, not just NASA.

Outing the moon landings wouldnt have changed any thing else and been a HUGE boost the USSR at the time.
Even if the earth was flat proving the moon landings fake wouldnt of made much of a difference.
More so for the Russians at the time seeing how black there space program was. 

All that matters is that they acknowledge there is an organisation which is genuinely committed to the belief that the Earth is flat. That constitutes taking us seriously.

Oh I see where you're confused now.

Printing something /= taking it seriously.

Let me help you

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2010/feb/14/neil-spencer-horoscopes

"Taking you serious" is not the right thing to say. Sure, you can twist it to make it seem like it, but in reality the news articles knew you were wrong. They treat you as nothing more than the conspiracy theory you are.

Quote from: Mr Pseudonym on May 18, 2010, 07:19:03 AM

Things like Area 51 harbouring aliens and the moon landings being hoaxed were largely ignored before the internet and especially by mainstream media.  Followers of these ideas were largley frowned upon.  As the mainstream media realised that there was a growing base of people who believed in these ideas, so did new snippets and eventually documentaries come out in support.  Now thanks to BBC shows and the like, there is a larger than ever proportion of people believing in this stuff.  Now people may scoff at FET now, but with more exposure who knows what will happen?

LOL He thinks Area 51 has little green men.

I can see how you would derive that from what I have written.

Oh I see where you're confused now.

Printing something /= taking it seriously.

Let me help you

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2010/feb/14/neil-spencer-horoscopes

You're just dodging my point.

"Taking you serious" is not the right thing to say. Sure, you can twist it to make it seem like it, but in reality the news articles knew you were wrong. They treat you as nothing more than the conspiracy theory you are.

Believing we are wrong and taking us seriously are two different things. Lots of people think global warming skeptics are loony and wrong, but they still take them seriously. Yes, the articles clearly express amazement, but crucually, not disbelief.

What are you talking about? We all know that FET is a fringe theory, and that the FES is a fringe organisation. We don't expect people to hear our theory, nod their heads and agree. However, that doesn't change the fact that by covering us, they're taking us seriously.

FET is not fringe science.
FET is pseudoscience.
Zeteticism is a scientific philosophy.
Stephen Hawking, Einstein, and NASA were fringe science.

You're just dodging my point.

Not at all. I addressed it completely. You think being published means being taken seriously. It doesn't. Sure they'll write an article about you if there's nothing else on that day. It doesn't mean they're taking you seriously any more than they take serious any of the other trivial things they report, eg UFOs, impotent old men who buy sex dolls, and an enterprising young lady who has found an innovative gastronomic use for kitty litter.

You are mildly amusing. That's all.

Who cares who is taking us seriously?  We are serious and correct.  Thats all that matters.

Who cares who is taking us seriously?  We are serious and correct.  Thats all that matters.

Most of the world would disagree with you on that

Quote from: John Davis on May 18, 2010, 10:24:03 AM

Who cares who is taking us seriously?  We are serious and correct.  Thats all that matters.

Most of the world would disagree with you on that

Like I implied,  I don't cared who is taking us seriously.  People don't take a lot of things seriously that they should.

Quote from: Thevoiceofreason on May 18, 2010, 10:46:03 AM

Quote from: John Davis on May 18, 2010, 10:24:03 AM

Who cares who is taking us seriously?  We are serious and correct.  Thats all that matters.

Most of the world would disagree with you on that

Like I implied,  I don't cared who is taking us seriously.  People don't take a lot of things seriously that they should.

point taken, but as social entrepreneurs, you should try to be taken seriously

We are serious and correct.  Thats all that matters.

Srz? Maybe. There's certainly enthusiasm, which I like.

Correct? No.

Correct? No.

Prove it.

By the sheer amount of different FE theories, I'd say statistically he's got the wrong theory.

Quote from: Lord Wilmore on May 18, 2010, 08:11:12 AM

You're just dodging my point.

Not at all. I addressed it completely. You think being published means being taken seriously. It doesn't. Sure they'll write an article about you if there's nothing else on that day. It doesn't mean they're taking you seriously any more than they take serious any of the other trivial things they report, eg UFOs, impotent old men who buy sex dolls, and an enterprising young lady who has found an innovative gastronomic use for kitty litter.

You are mildly amusing. That's all.

They represented us as an organisation that genuinely believes the Earth is flat. That's about as serious as you can take a society or organisation.

Quote from: John Davis on May 18, 2010, 10:24:03 AM

Who cares who is taking us seriously?  We are serious and correct.  Thats all that matters.

Most of the world would disagree with you on that

Most of the world believes in some sort of deity or another.  Does that make them right?  Most of the world believes that atoms look like little solar systems with the electrons orbiting the nucleus like planets.  Does that make them right? 

The fact that most of the world believes something does not make it right.  Science is not determined by asking the majority of the population what they believe.  In fact, a close minded attitude like yours actually inhibits the progress of science. 

Other space agencies are also controlled by The Conspiracy, not just NASA.

So "The Conspiracy" fueled a completely made-up space race, built fake budgets, killed a bunch of astronauts, paid countless third-party researchers to claim they can detect retroreflectors left on the moon, etc. (all for no apparent reason or financial gain), and all without a single person mouthing so much as a word about it?  I expect you must have mountains of evidence backing up such an idea.

They represented us as an organisation that genuinely believes the Earth is flat. That's about as serious as you can take a society or organisation.

Again, you're still confusing the two. You may be represented as "seriously believing". And we've all got our deadpan serious faces on now. But that doesn't mean they're taking you seriously. See crop circles, mayan apocalypse, lolcats etc.

Quote from: Thevoiceofreason on May 18, 2010, 10:46:03 AM

Quote from: John Davis on May 18, 2010, 10:24:03 AM

Who cares who is taking us seriously?  We are serious and correct.  Thats all that matters.

Most of the world would disagree with you on that

Most of the world believes in some sort of deity or another.  Does that make them right?  Most of the world believes that atoms look like little solar systems with the electrons orbiting the nucleus like planets.  Does that make them right? 

The fact that most of the world believes something does not make it right.  Science is not determined by asking the majority of the population what they believe.  In fact, a close minded attitude like yours actually inhibits the progress of science. 

Most people also believe a deity can't be proven, only with faith. If people believe atom looks like solar systems with orbiting, then sure, they can do that - And I won't disagree, it really does look like what you described.

The reason why most people disagree with your world view(read: everyone, there's not a single unified FET), is because the evidence is strongly against you and especially a flat earth goes against what any non-scientist, non-educated person would easily see with their own eyes.