Apparently your lives are boring so you came up with this crackpot theory.

Quote from: Thermal Detonator on May 15, 2010, 01:40:35 PM

Er, if the people doing the looking are idiots, then yes it can take that long. You are ignoring that and assuming the people examining the pictures had their brains switched on. They didn't. When someone who was sensible and clever looked at the pictures in later years, they spotted flaws and confronted the old crones about it, who fessed up.

Actually, if I recall it was James Randi who first proved them to be fake, and did so with computer technology which did not exist until then. Lots of experts thought they were fake, simply because they didn't believe fairies could exist, but they couldn't conclusively prove it.

There are also many old photos of 'ghosts' that were taken years before photoshop.  That fairy photo is just one example.  To me, it seems the Conspiracy had the tools and knowledge way ahead of most people.

Quote from: Thermal Detonator on May 15, 2010, 01:40:35 PM

Er, if the people doing the looking are idiots, then yes it can take that long. You are ignoring that and assuming the people examining the pictures had their brains switched on. They didn't. When someone who was sensible and clever looked at the pictures in later years, they spotted flaws and confronted the old crones about it, who fessed up.

Actually, if I recall it was James Randi who first proved them to be fake, and did so with computer technology which did not exist until then. Lots of experts thought they were fake, simply because they didn't believe fairies could exist, but they couldn't conclusively prove it.

The girls father thought they were fake at the time they were taken. Many people since then have accused them of being fake. If I see a magic trick happen and a rabbit disappears, it doesn't mean I believe the rabbit has really disappeared. I know it hasn't but I cannot explain how the effect was produced. It's the same with the fairies. Most people examining the photos seemed to be looking for signs of photographic manipulation, which was not happening - the photos are in fact undoctored, which is why this sort of tampering was not found. However there are clear signs which should have been apparent to everyone who saw the pictures, as I will highlight here:


This is the most well known photograph and depicts fairies in a brisk dance, frozen pin sharp as if by a fast shutter speed. However, the blurred water in the background indicates a shutter speed of around 1/4 to 1/2 a second was probably used, which would have reduced the sharpness on the fairies considerably. Notice also some blur, probably from a slight breeze, on the girl's hair at the top.


The same problem is visible very obviously in this photograph. The girl is blurred from movement (it must be movement and not poor focus because features nearer and farther from her are sharp) whereas the fairy is again unblurred and frozen, even though it appears to be flying, and its wings would be flapping.

This effect SHOULD have been obvious to anyone who understood the slightest thing about photography. The fact that it wasn't noticed for years does not mean the pictures are convincing - it means people see what they want to see and don't have their brains switched on.

How do you know that fairies behave like that and exhibit those sort of behaviours when photographed?  Perhaps they are capable of freezing completely still when around the presence of a camera flash.  Also, I don't know if they need to flap their wings, perhaps they use fairy dust or some other magic to keep themselves mysteriously afloat.  If anything those photos have solidified my belief in fairies.  It seems to me you are only seeing what you want to see, and making theories to fit your own assumptions.

How do you know that fairies behave like that and exhibit those sort of behaviours when photographed?  Perhaps they are capable of freezing completely still when around the presence of a camera flash.  Also, I don't know if they need to flap their wings, perhaps they use fairy dust or some other magic to keep themselves mysteriously afloat.  If anything those photos have solidified my belief in fairies.  It seems to me you are only seeing what you want to see, and making theories to fit your own assumptions.

Is your argument right now really in favor of fairies? This is a new low for TFES.

Quote from: Mr Pseudonym on May 17, 2010, 04:19:50 AM

How do you know that fairies behave like that and exhibit those sort of behaviours when photographed?  Perhaps they are capable of freezing completely still when around the presence of a camera flash.  Also, I don't know if they need to flap their wings, perhaps they use fairy dust or some other magic to keep themselves mysteriously afloat.  If anything those photos have solidified my belief in fairies.  It seems to me you are only seeing what you want to see, and making theories to fit your own assumptions.

Is your argument right now really in favor of fairies? This is a new low for TFES.

He's a troll.

This effect SHOULD have been obvious to anyone who understood the slightest thing about photography.

Yes yes, we all know how big an expert you are on photography. However, I seriously doubt that photographic experts failed to spot what you did, and indeed most concluded that while the photos had not been tampered with, this still didn't prove that fairies actually existed. The point is that things like a lack of blur etc. may indicate that the pictures were not authentic, but they don't prove it. The experts of the time concluded the pictures were fake because they didn't believe fairies could exist. In other words, both sides in the debate reached their conclusions based on their initial assumptions.

The fact that it wasn't noticed for years does not mean the pictures are convincing - it means people see what they want to see and don't have their brains switched on.

Couldn't agree more, and in the context of this discussion, that's a very pertinent statement.

The experts of the time concluded the pictures were fake because they didn't believe fairies could exist. In other words, both sides in the debate reached their conclusions based on their initial assumptions.

It's interesting what you get if you replace the word "experts" with "flat earthers" and replace the word "fairies" with "round earth". An interesting comment on NASA photos from Wilmore, there...

save that the fake on the NASA photos aren't fake.
They've been examined time and time again

Yes, please enlighten me as to what looks "fake" in the following image.

and

The skys are not moving

Well if thats all you need...

STS-132 RPM (rendezvous pitch maneuver)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendezvous_pitch_maneuver
I would also say this is pretty damning too.

Seeing as there were few 100 people watching as this was Atlantis' last launch.