Space Tourism

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Re: Space Tourism
« Reply #30 on: May 13, 2010, 05:44:17 PM »
I'd love to know what lens on the camera they use that makes a semicircle of light turn into a curved ball.


The sun doesn't and cannot hit the surface of the flat plane and form a spotlight effect, so how do you explain the light pattern as seen in the video?

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Re: Space Tourism
« Reply #31 on: May 13, 2010, 08:01:10 PM »
FET also cannot explain the reduced gravity effect that he displays by throwing the model of the plane around. Things aren't completely "weightless" because they are not quite in a true orbit, but weight is reduced nonetheless.

Fail less.  Hyperbolic flights are perfectly attainable in FET.

hyperbolic? ha, r u saying that the plane is slightly falling? fail way less

Agreed.  I failed.  Parabolic is what I was referring to.

wouldn't you then see the spaceship roaring towards the earth?

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Re: Space Tourism
« Reply #32 on: May 13, 2010, 08:11:41 PM »
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_between_spotlight_and_floodlight

the sun HAS to be  floodlight

floodlight and spotlight are different. You guys ever buy security lights?


what I meant was, same properties visually, one just has a wider angle.
Sunlight however points between 0<?<2?  and 0<?<2? spherically. which is not conical at all,
the space that light from a flood or sunlight travels through. that said, one property of the sphere, is that it looks circular from all  0<?<2?  and 0<?<2? directions, where as a circle is distorted to resemble an ellipse. the vid shows a circular Sun, therefore, since the Sun is the same shape from the ground as it is way up there, the sun is spherical. You lose

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Re: Space Tourism
« Reply #33 on: May 14, 2010, 04:27:11 AM »
It should be known that Richard Branson is a key figurehead of the Conspiracy. He has the same deceptive capabilities as NASA.
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Re: Space Tourism
« Reply #34 on: May 14, 2010, 04:52:16 AM »
It should be known that Richard Branson is a key figurehead of the Conspiracy. He has the same deceptive capabilities as NASA.

heres your chance to find out pony up the 200k and take a flight
Then you have provided evidence for the Earth being a sphere

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Re: Space Tourism
« Reply #35 on: May 14, 2010, 05:47:04 AM »
It should be known that Richard Branson is a key figurehead of the Conspiracy. He has the same deceptive capabilities as NASA.

heres your chance to find out pony up the 200k and take a flight

To show what exactly?  That there is a "curve" to the horizon.  Perfectly acceptable in FET.  That parabolic flight is possible?  Perfectly acceptable in FET. 

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Re: Space Tourism
« Reply #36 on: May 14, 2010, 06:35:47 AM »
It should be known that Richard Branson is a key figurehead of the Conspiracy. He has the same deceptive capabilities as NASA.

pix pl0x.
you are essentially saying that his proof is invalid because the source faked it

Re: Space Tourism
« Reply #37 on: May 14, 2010, 07:37:34 AM »
It should be known that Richard Branson is a key figurehead of the Conspiracy. He has the same deceptive capabilities as NASA.

heres your chance to find out pony up the 200k and take a flight

To show what exactly?  That there is a "curve" to the horizon.  Perfectly acceptable in FET.  That parabolic flight is possible?  Perfectly acceptable in FET. 

your slow arnt you
that the Earth curves way under you in ALL directions guess you missed that in the videos clearly showing a sphere
Then you have provided evidence for the Earth being a sphere

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Re: Space Tourism
« Reply #38 on: May 14, 2010, 07:49:58 AM »
It should be known that Richard Branson is a key figurehead of the Conspiracy. He has the same deceptive capabilities as NASA.

heres your chance to find out pony up the 200k and take a flight

To show what exactly?  That there is a "curve" to the horizon.  Perfectly acceptable in FET.  That parabolic flight is possible?  Perfectly acceptable in FET.  

your slow arnt you
that the Earth curves way under you in ALL directions guess you missed that in the videos clearly showing a sphere



Re: Space Tourism
« Reply #39 on: May 14, 2010, 07:52:09 AM »
It should be known that Richard Branson is a key figurehead of the Conspiracy. He has the same deceptive capabilities as NASA.

heres your chance to find out pony up the 200k and take a flight

To show what exactly?  That there is a "curve" to the horizon.  Perfectly acceptable in FET.  That parabolic flight is possible?  Perfectly acceptable in FET.  

your slow arnt you
that the Earth curves way under you in ALL directions guess you missed that in the videos clearly showing a sphere




Problem lolz

dont take my word for it NASA is launching a shuttle to day FUCK YEA GO USA
watch it live with all the nice video they have now hard to fake that live
« Last Edit: May 14, 2010, 07:56:36 AM by Space Tourist »
Then you have provided evidence for the Earth being a sphere

Re: Space Tourism
« Reply #40 on: May 14, 2010, 07:58:57 AM »
Call me when he gets into orbit.

You know what geostationary satellites are, right?  Have you ever used one?  If so, you'll know they cover a very specific point in the sky.  Aiming a dish at that point by hand is no easy task.  Slightly too far in any direction causes the signal to be screwed up or completely missed, but you'll know when you have it.  I did this personally and independently; you can as well.  In the FE model, having the satellite remain at that point in the sky for so long with nothing propelling it is impossible.  Considering I've directly observed it, I know the FE model to be false at least in that regard.

Re: Space Tourism
« Reply #41 on: May 14, 2010, 08:05:38 AM »
Call me when he gets into orbit.

You know what geostationary satellites are, right?  Have you ever used one?  If so, you'll know they cover a very specific point in the sky.  Aiming a dish at that point by hand is no easy task.  Slightly too far in any direction causes the signal to be screwed up or completely missed, but you'll know when you have it.  I did this personally and independently; you can as well.  In the FE model, having the satellite remain at that point in the sky for so long with nothing propelling it is impossible.  Considering I've directly observed it, I know the FE model to be false at least in that regard.

ever had a pager? they used GEO birds
watch TV? have cable? get HBO? GEO birds
:D GEO has all kinds of fun

military coms GEO there too HELLOOOO MILSTAR i know people that worked at NSA on EMP hardening on it
 
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Re: Space Tourism
« Reply #42 on: May 14, 2010, 09:07:23 AM »
ever had a pager? they used GEO birds
watch TV? have cable? get HBO? GEO birds
:D GEO has all kinds of fun

military coms GEO there too HELLOOOO MILSTAR i know people that worked at NSA on EMP hardening on it
 

For some information regarding the who's who of the aerospace Conspiracy, I recommend http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30418.0

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Re: Space Tourism
« Reply #43 on: May 14, 2010, 09:16:52 AM »
I guess if you are looking for it, you can find satan just about anywhere. Glenn Beck does the same thing with Hitler.
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Re: Space Tourism
« Reply #44 on: May 14, 2010, 09:19:19 AM »
Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/23_enigma
The 23 enigma refers to the belief that most incidents and events are directly connected to the number 23, some modification of the number 23, or a number related to the number 23.
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Re: Space Tourism
« Reply #45 on: May 14, 2010, 09:26:26 AM »
It should be known that Richard Branson is a key figurehead of the Conspiracy. He has the same deceptive capabilities as NASA.

heres your chance to find out pony up the 200k and take a flight

To show what exactly?  That there is a "curve" to the horizon.  Perfectly acceptable in FET.  That parabolic flight is possible?  Perfectly acceptable in FET.  

your slow arnt you
that the Earth curves way under you in ALL directions guess you missed that in the videos clearly showing a sphere




Problem lolz

dont take my word for it NASA is launching a shuttle to day FUCK YEA GO USA
watch it live with all the nice video they have now hard to fake that live


Who says the shuttle launches are fakes?

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Re: Space Tourism
« Reply #46 on: May 14, 2010, 09:32:04 AM »
If the shuttle launches are genuine, can they then make it into space?

If they cannot, as most FES claim, then in reality, 2 launches would be needed. The first launch would be for the public's benefit, the shuttle would then fly off and land at some unknown place unobserved by any humans. It would then launch again a couple weeks later to land publicly. This would end up costing the conspiracy roughly twice as much as just sending the shuttle up once. How are they supposed to make a profit from that?
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Re: Space Tourism
« Reply #47 on: May 14, 2010, 10:13:31 AM »
ever had a pager? they used GEO birds
watch TV? have cable? get HBO? GEO birds
:D GEO has all kinds of fun

military coms GEO there too HELLOOOO MILSTAR i know people that worked at NSA on EMP hardening on it
 

For some information regarding the who's who of the aerospace Conspiracy, I recommend http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=30418.0

Tom and I have covered Milstar, NASA, satellites and a host of other topics.

So Satan is behind NASA...it all makes sense now. are you guys gonna pull a Co$

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Re: Space Tourism
« Reply #48 on: May 14, 2010, 11:35:11 AM »
If the shuttle launches are genuine, can they then make it into space?

If they cannot, as most FES claim, then in reality, 2 launches would be needed. The first launch would be for the public's benefit, the shuttle would then fly off and land at some unknown place unobserved by any humans. It would then launch again a couple weeks later to land publicly. This would end up costing the conspiracy roughly twice as much as just sending the shuttle up once. How are they supposed to make a profit from that?

The shuttle is launched and presumably lands at a small goverment controlled island landing zone...oh I dont know say Diego Garcia?  It is then kept there while in "orbit"  The astronaughts are off filming there live interviews and doing all the "space walk" stuff.   Meanwhile the shuttle is loaded onto one of these.... flown up to altitude and dropped off...for "reentry"  Simple really.

Re: Space Tourism
« Reply #49 on: May 14, 2010, 08:57:38 PM »
If the shuttle launches are genuine, can they then make it into space?

If they cannot, as most FES claim, then in reality, 2 launches would be needed. The first launch would be for the public's benefit, the shuttle would then fly off and land at some unknown place unobserved by any humans. It would then launch again a couple weeks later to land publicly. This would end up costing the conspiracy roughly twice as much as just sending the shuttle up once. How are they supposed to make a profit from that?

The shuttle is launched and presumably lands at a small goverment controlled island landing zone...oh I dont know say Diego Garcia?  It is then kept there while in "orbit"  The astronaughts are off filming there live interviews and doing all the "space walk" stuff.   Meanwhile the shuttle is loaded onto one of these.... flown up to altitude and dropped off...for "reentry"  Simple really.

ONE slight flaw in that
have seen it re-enter and heard the double sonic boom...
i had a friend in another state see it the SAME day on the same ground track
the thing is super sonic right up till about 15 min be for touch down
the 747 shuttle carrier cant get to the alt nor the speeds needed to fake that
more so when the do a reentry that over flys most of the US 

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Re: Space Tourism
« Reply #50 on: May 15, 2010, 04:01:44 AM »

ONE slight flaw in that
have seen it re-enter and heard the double sonic boom...
i had a friend in another state see it the SAME day on the same ground track
the thing is super sonic right up till about 15 min be for touch down
the 747 shuttle carrier cant get to the alt nor the speeds needed to fake that
more so when the do a reentry that over flys most of the US 



So there are no chase planes around that morning that could make those sonic booms?  Why does it have to be the shuttle that does it?  The fact is you see nothing of the shuttle until it is overhead making its circle for final.

Re: Space Tourism
« Reply #51 on: May 15, 2010, 05:27:18 AM »

ONE slight flaw in that
have seen it re-enter and heard the double sonic boom...
i had a friend in another state see it the SAME day on the same ground track
the thing is super sonic right up till about 15 min be for touch down
the 747 shuttle carrier cant get to the alt nor the speeds needed to fake that
more so when the do a reentry that over flys most of the US 


So there are no chase planes around that morning that could make those sonic booms?  Why does it have to be the shuttle that does it?  The fact is you see nothing of the shuttle until it is overhead making its circle for final.

becouse no other aircraft makes that sonic boom and no other aircraft is THAT FAST with no engines remember when it over flue me it was at 100,000 feet going mach 10
the double boom is becouse of the size of the shuttle
all make 2 but most read almost all even the SR-71 are to short
you get one on the nose and one on the tail the only other that could do it the XB-70 Valkyrie http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XB-70_Valkyrie
wile i am a EE my hobby is aerospace design
and 2nd nothing else can go that fast nothing SR-71 tops out at Mach 3 or so

now when its landing its down to ~5,000 ft going Mach 3 and can been seen and heard very easily
soo yea again speeds are way out side any thing that could be faked it has be coming down from orbit
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Re: Space Tourism
« Reply #52 on: May 15, 2010, 05:35:36 AM »
becouse no other aircraft makes that sonic boom and no other aircraft is THAT FAST with no engines remember when it over flue me it was at 100,000 feet going mach 10
the double boom is becouse of the size of the shuttle
all make 2 but most read almost all even the SR-71 are to short
you get one on the nose and one on the tail the only other that could do it the XB-70 Valkyrie http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XB-70_Valkyrie
wile i am a EE my hobby is aerospace design
and 2nd nothing else can go that fast nothing SR-71 tops out at Mach 3 or so

now when its landing its down to ~5,000 ft going Mach 3 and can been seen and heard very easily
soo yea again speeds are way out side any thing that could be faked it has be coming down from orbit

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Re: Space Tourism
« Reply #53 on: May 15, 2010, 05:40:16 AM »
becouse no other aircraft makes that sonic boom and no other aircraft is THAT FAST with no engines remember when it over flue me it was at 100,000 feet going mach 10
the double boom is becouse of the size of the shuttle
all make 2 but most read almost all even the SR-71 are to short
you get one on the nose and one on the tail the only other that could do it the XB-70 Valkyrie http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XB-70_Valkyrie
wile i am a EE my hobby is aerospace design
and 2nd nothing else can go that fast nothing SR-71 tops out at Mach 3 or so

now when its landing its down to ~5,000 ft going Mach 3 and can been seen and heard very easily
soo yea again speeds are way out side any thing that could be faked it has be coming down from orbit

Punctuation. Use it.

you mad
your just bitter i proved you wrong
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Re: Space Tourism
« Reply #54 on: May 15, 2010, 05:45:35 AM »

ONE slight flaw in that
have seen it re-enter and heard the double sonic boom...
i had a friend in another state see it the SAME day on the same ground track
the thing is super sonic right up till about 15 min be for touch down
the 747 shuttle carrier cant get to the alt nor the speeds needed to fake that
more so when the do a reentry that over flys most of the US 


So there are no chase planes around that morning that could make those sonic booms?  Why does it have to be the shuttle that does it?  The fact is you see nothing of the shuttle until it is overhead making its circle for final.

becouse no other aircraft makes that sonic boom and no other aircraft is THAT FAST with no engines remember when it over flue me it was at 100,000 feet going mach 10
the double boom is becouse of the size of the shuttle
all make 2 but most read almost all even the SR-71 are to short
you get one on the nose and one on the tail the only other that could do it the XB-70 Valkyrie http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XB-70_Valkyrie
wile i am a EE my hobby is aerospace design
and 2nd nothing else can go that fast nothing SR-71 tops out at Mach 3 or so

now when its landing its down to ~5,000 ft going Mach 3 and can been seen and heard very easily
soo yea again speeds are way out side any thing that could be faked it has be coming down from orbit

LOL....two aircraft hitting sonic booms at two different times to simulate the effect if it was real.

And you didnt see the shuttle at 100,000 feet.

Any other fail you want to bring up?

Re: Space Tourism
« Reply #55 on: May 15, 2010, 07:04:59 AM »
o rly





yea.. sure pretty easy to tell were its coming from when you SEE THE THING
« Last Edit: May 15, 2010, 07:09:06 AM by Space Tourist »
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Re: Space Tourism
« Reply #56 on: May 15, 2010, 07:55:44 AM »
OH OH look guys!!!!  A small white streak across the sky!!!


Hey space tourist, dude you should have seen it.  I was out in my front yard when Superman flew overhead.  I got a picture of it.  He was going really, really, fast.




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« Reply #57 on: May 15, 2010, 08:02:38 AM »
OH OH look guys!!!!  A small white streak across the sky!!!


Hey space tourist, dude you should have seen it.  I was out in my front yard when Superman flew overhead.  I got a picture of it.  He was going really, really, fast.





COOL got a ground track so i can see too?

see thats the thing
i KNEW when to look becouse i had the ground track so did these people
like i said my friend in another state saw it
then i saw it a bit later speed and track all match up all the way in to the cape
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Re: Space Tourism
« Reply #58 on: May 15, 2010, 09:24:57 AM »
OH OH look guys!!!!  A small white streak across the sky!!!


Hey space tourist, dude you should have seen it.  I was out in my front yard when Superman flew overhead.  I got a picture of it.  He was going really, really, fast.





COOL got a ground track so i can see too?

see thats the thing
i KNEW when to look becouse i had the ground track so did these people
like i said my friend in another state saw it
then i saw it a bit later speed and track all match up all the way in to the cape

Yes the illusion of the shuttle returning to orbit is very elaborate.

Re: Space Tourism
« Reply #59 on: May 15, 2010, 09:43:34 AM »
OH OH look guys!!!!  A small white streak across the sky!!!


Hey space tourist, dude you should have seen it.  I was out in my front yard when Superman flew overhead.  I got a picture of it.  He was going really, really, fast.





COOL got a ground track so i can see too?

see thats the thing
i KNEW when to look becouse i had the ground track so did these people
like i said my friend in another state saw it
then i saw it a bit later speed and track all match up all the way in to the cape

Yes the illusion of the shuttle returning to orbit is very elaborate.

so much the it fooled every one when one was lost
and and parts of rained down over 3 states
http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Aeronautics-and-Astronautics/16-885JFall-2005/LectureNotes/index.htm
some video for you 
sure with that many people in on it SOME ONE would know sooner or later even the CIA knows the more people in on a secrete the more likely it is to get out
Then you have provided evidence for the Earth being a sphere