Gravity

Would someone care to explain to me how, with out gravity (the gravity commonly accepted by RE's), these phenomena occur?

1.  The coalescence of matter (i.e. the accretion of Earth from debris in space)

2.  The stable orbits of planets around the Sun, the Moon around the Earth, etc.

3.  Tides

This is Q&A: I asked 3 questions, and I ask for 3 answers to help me learn more about FET.

Would someone care to explain to me how, with out gravity (the gravity commonly accepted by RE's), these phenomena occur?

1.  The coalescence of matter (i.e. the accretion of Earth from debris in space)

2.  The stable orbits of planets around the Sun, the Moon around the Earth, etc.

3.  Tides

This is Q&A: I asked 3 questions, and I ask for 3 answers to help me learn more about FET.

1, This didn't happen

2, The planets do not orbit the sun

3, Although the Earth has no gravity, heavenly bodies have a little. This causes tides.

2, The planets do not orbit the sun

3, Although the Earth has no gravity, heavenly bodies have a little. This causes tides.

If the sun and moon are about the same size in FET, shouldn't their gravitational influence on the tides be about equal?

If the sun and moon are about the same size in FET, shouldn't their gravitational influence on the tides be about equal?

Not unless you assume they have the same mean density.

1, This didn't happen

2, The planets do not orbit the sun

3, Although the Earth has no gravity, heavenly bodies have a little. This causes tides.
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Care to explain how the Earth, or any other object, in space formed?  And why do you claim the Earth has no gravity, yet other 'heavenly bodies' do?

The reason the earth has no gravity is the earth would collapse into a RE. Since the world is flat the means something magical is counteracting it. Like most things in FE there is no evidence of this gravity canceling force.

The reason the earth has no gravity is the earth would collapse into a RE. Since the world is flat the means something magical is counteracting it. Like most things in FE there is no evidence of this gravity canceling force.

That's odd.  It's almost like RET makes more sense than FET right now.  Hmm...

Quote from: markjo on May 12, 2010, 12:40:30 PM

If the sun and moon are about the same size in FET, shouldn't their gravitational influence on the tides be about equal?

Not unless you assume they have the same mean density.

But then you would be assuming that density has anything to do with gravitation.

3, Although the Earth has no gravity, heavenly bodies have a little. This causes tides.

There's no such thing as a little gravity.

Quote from: spanner34.5 on May 12, 2010, 10:10:37 AM

3, Although the Earth has no gravity, heavenly bodies have a little. This causes tides.

There's no such thing as a little gravity.

Of course there is.  The farther away you get from Earth, the less gravity there is, to the point where this is (very close) to zero-gravity.  It decreases exponentially, I think.  I have to check that.  It's not like, at 100,000 feet above the Earth, gravity suddenly turns off.

It's a definition thing.  I always say "force caused by gravity" instead of just "gravity" to avoid such nit-pickings.

It's a definition thing.  I always say "force caused by gravity" instead of just "gravity" to avoid such nit-pickings.

Hmm.  I always thought of gravity as a force.  I guess what you said makes sense, too.

Of course there is.  The farther away you get from Earth, the less gravity there is,

This is the same 100% content gravity that we always enjoyed.

It's an inverse square law.

Quote from: markjo on May 12, 2010, 12:40:30 PM

If the sun and moon are about the same size in FET, shouldn't their gravitational influence on the tides be about equal?

Not unless you assume they have the same mean density.

IF they have a pull, then wouldn't they pull on each other?

Quote from: Crustinator on May 12, 2010, 04:18:18 PM

Quote from: spanner34.5 on May 12, 2010, 10:10:37 AM

3, Although the Earth has no gravity, heavenly bodies have a little. This causes tides.

There's no such thing as a little gravity.

Of course there is.  The farther away you get from Earth, the less gravity there is, to the point where this is (very close) to zero-gravity.  It decreases exponentially, I think.  I have to check that.  It's not like, at 100,000 feet above the Earth, gravity suddenly turns off.

It decreases with the inverse square of the distance, but the limit when distance reaches infinity still is zero

Woot, I knew it was an inverse exponential relationship.  Well nobody answered my questions... still wondering how the Earth formed if it didn't coalesce. 

Woot, I knew it was an inverse exponential relationship.  Well nobody answered my questions... still wondering how the Earth formed if it didn't coalesce. 

I think that most FE'ers, the ones that aren't trolls at least, are biblical literalists, i.e. God formed it with his Hax0r powers

Crap.  I hate the people who believe in Genesis.  It's so undeniably-completely-debunked. 

  Liar.  I still believe in Genesis.  It's only a matter of time before Phil, Tony and Mike get back together for a new album.

Not gonna bother getting into this.  We're not even in the right thread for that

1, This didn't happen

2, The planets do not orbit the sun

3, Although the Earth has no gravity, heavenly bodies have a little. This causes tides.

Care to explain how the Earth, or any other object, in space formed?  And why do you claim the Earth has no gravity, yet other 'heavenly bodies' do?
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I am sure most of this is in the FAQ

Woot, I knew it was an inverse exponential relationship.

Inverse square is not "inverse exponential".

Quote from: jackofhearts on May 13, 2010, 12:51:28 PM

Woot, I knew it was an inverse exponential relationship.

Inverse square is not "inverse exponential".

And a quadratic is not circular, yet your BL says so.
at least his inverse exponential has the same limits at infinity as an inverse square, which are zero.

And a quadratic is not circular, yet your BL says so.

Please, at least take the time to read up on bendy light theory before you pretend to know what claims it makes.

Quote from: Thevoiceofreason on May 14, 2010, 06:34:01 AM

And a quadratic is not circular, yet your BL says so.

Please, at least take the time to read up on bendy light theory before you pretend to know what claims it makes.

I did, and you gave a quadratic last time I checked.
give me your equation x(t),y(t) for BL and I'll show you why you are wrong

I did, and you gave a quadratic last time I checked.

Yes, and which part of the theory suggests that this must be a circle?

give me your equation x(t),y(t) for BL and I'll show you why you are wrong

The theory isn't finalised yet. There could be any number of mechanisms, causing different kinds of bending.

What possible mechanisms have you managed to narrow it down to?

Quote from: Thevoiceofreason on May 14, 2010, 06:46:03 AM

I did, and you gave a quadratic last time I checked.

Yes, and which part of the theory suggests that this must be a circle?

Quote from: Thevoiceofreason on May 14, 2010, 06:46:03 AM

give me your equation x(t),y(t) for BL and I'll show you why you are wrong

The theory isn't finalised yet. There could be any number of mechanisms, causing different kinds of bending.

I got the circle from our conversation a year ago, when you paralleled the earths curvature with that of light.
after lrning2 Multivarcalc and AP physics, I added in the mathematicals behind the circle.
the circular path of light would account for all of the data that the RE'ers presented, as it would make the ships sink in the fashion described. this also accounts for why you cannot see china from america, no matter how high you get. if light moved in a quadratic,
then the earth would appear to be a quadratic hill from the eye of an observer. I could give you an exact mechanism for the curvature of light, simply find the path of light. done.

Inverse square is not "inverse exponential".

Nothing gets past you. You are a winner!

Quote from: jackofhearts on May 12, 2010, 01:24:07 PM

1, This didn't happen

2, The planets do not orbit the sun

3, Although the Earth has no gravity, heavenly bodies have a little. This causes tides.

Care to explain how the Earth, or any other object, in space formed?  And why do you claim the Earth has no gravity, yet other 'heavenly bodies' do?

I am sure most of this is in the FAQ
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There is nothing about how Earth, or other 'heavenly bodies' are formed in FAQ. 

Enlighten me?