Flat Earth: The Novel

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Gigamonsta

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Flat Earth: The Novel
« on: May 09, 2010, 07:42:37 PM »
Hey everytone. As an Earth Shape Agnostic (ESA) I am unsure exactly if I should be making suggestions but here it goes. Famous authors like Mark Twain and Dosteoevsky have used novels to get their points across. So why not FES?! i mean you could have a novel which gradually connects people to the idea of a flat earth. I am unsure of exactly what sort of plot it would have but here is a suggestion. Again I ask others, FE'ers most of all, to submit plot details as to waht other sort of plot you would like to see: Here is my idea:
 a NASA researcher who has just joined begins to notice all sorts of things not making sense in terms of astronomy and stuff. Why for example is he not allowed to be in the control room during space flights?! why are crews sent into the ocean to pick up "packages" (as they are called) in the atlantic ocean shortly after a space shuttle is apparently launched into space? why are certain established principles of space exploration halting to make logical sense? he also has to deal with numerous people who are regularly protesting outside of nasa about how nasa may be lying about it is doing. he raises some questions but is then told to back off and eventually, when backing off, given a "raise" (bribe). yet one of his coworkers, who is more vocal than he is, eventually goes missing. this begins his epic quest to find out the truth.

Frankly it may very well even become a great movie script! i liked bishop's university idea but this is better. FET needs to become ingrained in pop culture first before established centers of higher education can be built. what say you?!

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Re: Flat Earth: The Novel
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2010, 07:46:11 PM »
FET is deeply ingrained in video game pop culture already. Also, check out http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=33829.0
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Gigamonsta

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Re: Flat Earth: The Novel
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2010, 07:49:02 PM »
FET is deeply ingrained in video game pop culture already. Also, check out http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=33829.0

I like this. I will enjoy reading FES in popular culture. yet there is no movie. frankly turning one of htose scripts, or mine, into a movie would be pretty good. even if zelda game had a flat earth in it, it wasn't explicit enough. we dont want to be hitting people over the head but we also dont  want it to be too subtle like the zelda game.

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Re: Flat Earth: The Novel
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2010, 09:01:28 PM »
FET is deeply ingrained in video game pop culture already. Also, check out http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=33829.0

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Re: Flat Earth: The Novel
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2010, 09:21:19 PM »
Apparently the memory saving way of making maps flat on games makes them agree with FE.

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Re: Flat Earth: The Novel
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2010, 12:29:49 AM »
FET is deeply ingrained in video game pop culture already. Also, check out http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=33829.0
Oh yeah, because video games have flat maps, it must mean the Earth is flat. I'm guessing magic exists and if I run away from police long enough after blowing up a car full of hookers they'll forget about me.

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Re: Flat Earth: The Novel
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2010, 12:31:20 AM »
The book can be called "The People Even the Tinfoil Hat Wearers Think Are Full Of It."

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Re: Flat Earth: The Novel
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2010, 05:24:07 AM »
FET is deeply ingrained in video game pop culture already. Also, check out http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=33829.0

Which games are you referring to?
The conspiracy do train attack-birds

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Re: Flat Earth: The Novel
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2010, 06:10:34 AM »
FET is deeply ingrained in video game pop culture already. Also, check out http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=33829.0

Which games are you referring to?
Any video game designed before the whole 3D revolution.

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Re: Flat Earth: The Novel
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2010, 02:27:59 PM »
FET is deeply ingrained in video game pop culture already. Also, check out http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=33829.0
Oh yeah, because video games have flat maps, it must mean the Earth is flat. I'm guessing magic exists and if I run away from police long enough after blowing up a car full of hookers they'll forget about me.
I did that once.
True story.

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Re: Flat Earth: The Novel
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2010, 04:29:38 PM »
lolololol Flat earth agnostic.
that would mean that you aren't sure if the earth's shape exists.

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Re: Flat Earth: The Novel
« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2010, 04:34:43 PM »
FET is deeply ingrained in video game pop culture already. Also, check out http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=33829.0

lolno. I'd say far less than .001% of gamers and developers believe the world to be flat. Its just the physics engine; by that method of thinking the 10 foot deep earth is also ingrained in video game culture, as most games don't show the depth of the earth. Same with the infinite pockets theory.

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Re: Flat Earth: The Novel
« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2010, 04:40:55 PM »
FET is deeply ingrained in video game pop culture already. Also, check out http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=33829.0

lolno. I'd say far less than .001% of gamers and developers believe the world to be flat. Its just the physics engine; by that method of thinking the 10 foot deep earth is also ingrained in video game culture, as most games don't show the depth of the earth. Same with the infinite pockets theory.
I'd say about 10% of game developers know the Earth is flat.
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Re: Flat Earth: The Novel
« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2010, 04:43:29 PM »
FET is deeply ingrained in video game pop culture already. Also, check out http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=33829.0

lolno. I'd say far less than .001% of gamers and developers believe the world to be flat. Its just the physics engine; by that method of thinking the 10 foot deep earth is also ingrained in video game culture, as most games don't show the depth of the earth. Same with the infinite pockets theory.
I'd say about 10% of game developers know the Earth is flat.


yes, but how do you know that? I mean if its really that much im happy. i may be an ESA but i am open minded and think that a new idea or venue of thought is great! it would be interesting to see the lively debates that would lead to if it were 10 percent. hey maybe even turn some of the novels in the classics or my own plot into a video game?!

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Re: Flat Earth: The Novel
« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2010, 05:31:56 PM »
FET is deeply ingrained in video game pop culture already. Also, check out http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=33829.0

lolno. I'd say far less than .001% of gamers and developers believe the world to be flat. Its just the physics engine; by that method of thinking the 10 foot deep earth is also ingrained in video game culture, as most games don't show the depth of the earth. Same with the infinite pockets theory.
I'd say about 10% of game developers know the Earth is flat.

Proof beyond something you pulled out of your ass?
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Re: Flat Earth: The Novel
« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2010, 05:33:34 PM »
FET is deeply ingrained in video game pop culture already. Also, check out http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=33829.0

lolno. I'd say far less than .001% of gamers and developers believe the world to be flat. Its just the physics engine; by that method of thinking the 10 foot deep earth is also ingrained in video game culture, as most games don't show the depth of the earth. Same with the infinite pockets theory.
I'd say about 10% of game developers know the Earth is flat.

Proof beyond something you pulled out of your ass?
The FET present in a large portion of games. TBH I probably underestimated.
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Re: Flat Earth: The Novel
« Reply #16 on: May 10, 2010, 05:36:22 PM »
FET is deeply ingrained in video game pop culture already. Also, check out http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=33829.0

lolno. I'd say far less than .001% of gamers and developers believe the world to be flat. Its just the physics engine; by that method of thinking the 10 foot deep earth is also ingrained in video game culture, as most games don't show the depth of the earth. Same with the infinite pockets theory.
I'd say about 10% of game developers know the Earth is flat.

Proof beyond something you pulled out of your ass?
The FET present in a large portion of games. TBH I probably underestimated.
Wow.... I guess the fact that the floors of the original Doom being flat means that the Earth is really flat. Makes perfect sense to me. /end sarcasm/
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Gigamonsta

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Re: Flat Earth: The Novel
« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2010, 06:14:57 PM »
FET is deeply ingrained in video game pop culture already. Also, check out http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=33829.0

lolno. I'd say far less than .001% of gamers and developers believe the world to be flat. Its just the physics engine; by that method of thinking the 10 foot deep earth is also ingrained in video game culture, as most games don't show the depth of the earth. Same with the infinite pockets theory.
I'd say about 10% of game developers know the Earth is flat.

Proof beyond something you pulled out of your ass?
The FET present in a large portion of games. TBH I probably underestimated.
Wow.... I guess the fact that the floors of the original Doom being flat means that the Earth is really flat. Makes perfect sense to me. /end sarcasm/

Im not sure about ichi's figures but it is POSSIBLE! i mean i doubt we can get certain statistics but look at the flat water on zelda. you look over the distance and its flat all over! it would be easy to make the water your characther sees in the distance have curvature but there is no curvature! though if tht is the case i don't think FE'ers are being bold enough. a movie about finding the flat earth to be released in theatres is neccessary!

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Re: Flat Earth: The Novel
« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2010, 06:34:28 PM »
FET is deeply ingrained in video game pop culture already. Also, check out http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=33829.0

lolno. I'd say far less than .001% of gamers and developers believe the world to be flat. Its just the physics engine; by that method of thinking the 10 foot deep earth is also ingrained in video game culture, as most games don't show the depth of the earth. Same with the infinite pockets theory.
I'd say about 10% of game developers know the Earth is flat.

Proof beyond something you pulled out of your ass?
The FET present in a large portion of games. TBH I probably underestimated.

you're funny, by that logic the UN should be FES...

FAIL just because the earth is flat in a game doesn't mean they think it is. what exactly would be the point in spending massive amounts of money into rendering a realistic curvature of the Earth into the game complete with the orbit effect, figuring out how to adjust the gravity to fit said curvature, while maintaining Newtons inverse square law, all the while adjusting the gravity with the centrifugal virtual force due to the earth's spin. when you could just keep them all flat.
in most games there would barely be any visible difference, just like IRL.

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Re: Flat Earth: The Novel
« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2010, 06:42:07 PM »
Or it is easier for developers to create an Earth with the most simple and eloquent theory instead your radical fantasy RE. A flat earth makes more sense, hence easier to portray in video games.
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Re: Flat Earth: The Novel
« Reply #20 on: May 10, 2010, 06:48:38 PM »
Or it is easier for developers to create an Earth with the most simple and eloquent theory instead your radical fantasy RE. A flat earth makes more sense, hence easier to portray in video games.
Wrong,a flat earth is easier to portay because it is flat all over.
Why would Game Devs bother with trying to make the earth appear round?

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Gigamonsta

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Re: Flat Earth: The Novel
« Reply #21 on: May 10, 2010, 06:55:21 PM »
Or it is easier for developers to create an Earth with the most simple and eloquent theory instead your radical fantasy RE. A flat earth makes more sense, hence easier to portray in video games.
Wrong,a flat earth is easier to portay because it is flat all over.
Why would Game Devs bother with trying to make the earth appear round?

Games are really realistic today. Look at graphics.


BUT GET BACK TO MY POST! WHAT ABOUT MY NOVEL/POSSIBLE MOVIE PLOT?! What do you think of it guy? Also please suiggest some other plots too.

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Re: Flat Earth: The Novel
« Reply #22 on: May 10, 2010, 06:57:15 PM »
Or it is easier for developers to create an Earth with the most simple and eloquent theory instead your radical fantasy RE. A flat earth makes more sense, hence easier to portray in video games.

its simpler therefore makes more sense, maybe, but that is irrelevent to it being correct
eloquent is subjective, most people I know think gravity is allot more eloquent than UA, EA, Antimoon, earth's protective gravity thingie, a worldwide conspiracy, a wall of ice guarded by snipers, the suspension of modern physics and astronomy. A sun that can magically shine light on all of Antarctica, but leave the some of the space between as blank. a magnetic field controlled by magical forces so that it allignes on a disk. stars that can create light via who knows what.

Vs. the round earth which is primarily based on the inverse squarelaw of gravity. this gives rise to the shape, gravity, magnetism, wind, ocean currents, NASA space exploration, Sun as a massive star etc.

How can RE theory be more eloquent when you don't have a working map or laws of physics. It's more simple in a game to throughout any need for the laws of physics, cause extra stuff=extra work.

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Re: Flat Earth: The Novel
« Reply #23 on: May 10, 2010, 07:02:42 PM »
Or it is easier for developers to create an Earth with the most simple and eloquent theory instead your radical fantasy RE. A flat earth makes more sense, hence easier to portray in video games.
Wrong,a flat earth is easier to portay because it is flat all over.
Why would Game Devs bother with trying to make the earth appear round?

Games are really realistic today. Look at graphics.


BUT GET BACK TO MY POST! WHAT ABOUT MY NOVEL/POSSIBLE MOVIE PLOT?! What do you think of it guy? Also please suiggest some other plots too.
Rarely.They will improve the graphics but will still break tons of laws(of science).
As an avid gamer,i know.Besides,Call of duty had a Round earth.

Anyways,i think a good plot would be something along the lines of an RE'er turned  FE'er.Like how he got from the common viewpoint to a flat viewpoint.

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Re: Flat Earth: The Novel
« Reply #24 on: May 10, 2010, 07:19:04 PM »
Or it is easier for developers to create an Earth with the most simple and eloquent theory instead your radical fantasy RE. A flat earth makes more sense, hence easier to portray in video games.

No it doesn't. The entire collective work of all the Re'ers on here shows how complex, underdefined, or just entirely wrong it is to have a flat Earth. For instance, our view (which is correct) calls for our planet to work under the same universal scientific laws as everything else in the universe. Yours call for us to be on a magical cyclinder that violates even the most basic principals of sicence, math, and just common sense.

A Flat earth may be simpler to reproduce without taking to acoount actual science, but you hardly can tell the curvature of the earth in modern Video games...... besides - a list of Video games with round planets -

Killzone
Killzone 2
Modern Warfare 2
Dawn of War (1 & 2)
Doom
Command & Conquer
Bad Company
Zelda Games
etc.
etc.
etc.

In the instance of video games - their stock of trade is to have somethng unusal, something different from everyone else and a flat planet to fight on would be such a thing - can you name a single game that cites a flat Earth?
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Re: Flat Earth: The Novel
« Reply #25 on: May 10, 2010, 07:22:00 PM »
Or it is easier for developers to create an Earth with the most simple and eloquent theory instead your radical fantasy RE. A flat earth makes more sense, hence easier to portray in video games.
Wrong,a flat earth is easier to portay because it is flat all over.
Why would Game Devs bother with trying to make the earth appear round?

Games are really realistic today. Look at graphics.


BUT GET BACK TO MY POST! WHAT ABOUT MY NOVEL/POSSIBLE MOVIE PLOT?! What do you think of it guy? Also please suiggest some other plots too.

It would have to be either a Sci-Fi or comedy..... anything else will not be taken seriously and would bomb.... unless it pulls a Starship Troopers.
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Re: Flat Earth: The Novel
« Reply #26 on: May 11, 2010, 02:09:32 AM »
Or it is easier for developers to create an Earth with the most simple and eloquent theory instead your radical fantasy RE. A flat earth makes more sense, hence easier to portray in video games.

No it doesn't. The entire collective work of all the Re'ers on here shows how complex, underdefined, or just entirely wrong it is to have a flat Earth. For instance, our view (which is correct) calls for our planet to work under the same universal scientific laws as everything else in the universe. Yours call for us to be on a magical cyclinder that violates even the most basic principals of sicence, math, and just common sense.

A Flat earth may be simpler to reproduce without taking to acoount actual science, but you hardly can tell the curvature of the earth in modern Video games...... besides - a list of Video games with round planets -

Killzone
Killzone 2
Modern Warfare 2
Dawn of War (1 & 2)
Doom
Command & Conquer
Bad Company
etc.
etc.
etc.

In the instance of video games - their stock of trade is to have somethng unusal, something different from everyone else and a flat planet to fight on would be such a thing - can you name a single game that cites a flat Earth?
Short list there
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Re: Flat Earth: The Novel
« Reply #27 on: May 11, 2010, 04:02:11 AM »
Or it is easier for developers to create an Earth with the most simple and eloquent theory instead your radical fantasy RE. A flat earth makes more sense, hence easier to portray in video games.

No it doesn't. The entire collective work of all the Re'ers on here shows how complex, underdefined, or just entirely wrong it is to have a flat Earth. For instance, our view (which is correct) calls for our planet to work under the same universal scientific laws as everything else in the universe. Yours call for us to be on a magical cyclinder that violates even the most basic principals of sicence, math, and just common sense.

A Flat earth may be simpler to reproduce without taking to acoount actual science, but you hardly can tell the curvature of the earth in modern Video games...... besides - a list of Video games with round planets -

Killzone
Killzone 2
Modern Warfare 2
Dawn of War (1 & 2)
Doom
Command & Conquer
Bad Company
etc.
etc.
etc.

In the instance of video games - their stock of trade is to have somethng unusal, something different from everyone else and a flat planet to fight on would be such a thing - can you name a single game that cites a flat Earth?
Short list there

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Re: Flat Earth: The Novel
« Reply #28 on: May 11, 2010, 04:09:16 AM »
There is an option for a flat earth in Civilization 4.

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Re: Flat Earth: The Novel
« Reply #29 on: May 11, 2010, 04:19:35 AM »
There is an option for a flat earth in Civilization 4.

Link?
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