Lunar Danger! James and Ichi are the only ones?

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markjo

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Re: Lunar Danger! James and Ichi are the only ones?
« Reply #270 on: May 30, 2010, 07:47:54 AM »
I'm sorry but what does lack of sunlight have to do with excess collenchyma  ???.

You do realize that plants do most of their actual growth in darkness, don't you?  Lack of sunlight means that this growth period is uninterrupted.  It also means that the plant is unable to conduct photosynthesis in order to make more food.  So, essentially you are causing uninterrupted growth in a starving the plant.  Sounds pretty stressful to me.
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Re: Lunar Danger! James and Ichi are the only ones?
« Reply #271 on: May 30, 2010, 07:59:09 AM »
That isn't true. It depends on their carbon fixation method, not whether it is day or not (although for C3 plants it can  be an indirect effect). If the plant was growing interrupted AND starving in your scenario, making excess collenchyma would be the last thing it would do since it is so metabolically expensive.
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Re: Lunar Danger! James and Ichi are the only ones?
« Reply #272 on: May 30, 2010, 08:05:14 AM »
That isn't true.

So plants don't photosynthesise anymore? Why didn't I get the memo?

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Re: Lunar Danger! James and Ichi are the only ones?
« Reply #273 on: May 30, 2010, 08:05:34 AM »
making excess collenchyma would be the last thing it would do since it is so metabolically expensive.

It's also probably the only thing it can do to stop itself breaking in half and dying.

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Re: Lunar Danger! James and Ichi are the only ones?
« Reply #274 on: May 30, 2010, 08:06:00 AM »
That isn't true.

So plants don't photosynthesise anymore? Why didn't I get the memo?
It isn't true that all of them grow during the night only.
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Re: Lunar Danger! James and Ichi are the only ones?
« Reply #275 on: May 30, 2010, 08:06:55 AM »
making excess collenchyma would be the last thing it would do since it is so metabolically expensive.

It's also probably the only thing it can do to stop itself breaking in half and dying.
Food is more important to the plant and since it is starving, does not have food, then the excess collenchyma could not be grown.
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Re: Lunar Danger! James and Ichi are the only ones?
« Reply #276 on: May 30, 2010, 08:07:44 AM »
That isn't true. It depends on their carbon fixation method, not whether it is day or not (although for C3 plants it can  be an indirect effect). If the plant was growing interrupted AND starving in your scenario, making excess collenchyma would be the last thing it would do since it is so metabolically expensive.

To be honest, I'm not that much up on plant metabolism.  My concern is more with the conditions under which the experiment was conducted and the lack of proper documentation.  
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Re: Lunar Danger! James and Ichi are the only ones?
« Reply #277 on: May 30, 2010, 08:09:13 AM »
That isn't true.

So plants don't photosynthesise anymore? Why didn't I get the memo?
It isn't true that all of them grow during the night only.

That's not what I asked. Thanks for the random trivia though!

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Re: Lunar Danger! James and Ichi are the only ones?
« Reply #278 on: May 30, 2010, 08:11:18 AM »
making excess collenchyma would be the last thing it would do since it is so metabolically expensive.

It's also probably the only thing it can do to stop itself breaking in half and dying.
Food is more important to the plant and since it is starving, does not have food, then the excess collenchyma could not be grown.


I'd rather starve a bit more, strengthen my body, and last another few days than wither and die.

You never know, those extra few days might bring the food I need.

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Re: Lunar Danger! James and Ichi are the only ones?
« Reply #279 on: May 30, 2010, 09:28:22 AM »
making excess collenchyma would be the last thing it would do since it is so metabolically expensive.

It's also probably the only thing it can do to stop itself breaking in half and dying.
Food is more important to the plant and since it is starving, does not have food, then the excess collenchyma could not be grown.

Wait, then how did it grow the collenchyma if it had no sunlight and was starving?  Even WITH mechanical stress, you're saying it shouldn't have grown anyway.
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