Edge of the Earth

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James

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Re: Edge of the Earth
« Reply #30 on: May 07, 2010, 06:19:35 AM »
Scott of the Antarctic is thought to have reached the Ice Wall prior to his assassination. What lies beyond those great escarpments of ice is lost to human perception.

What was he assasinated by? A skua?

The conspiracy do train attack-birds, but I think it is more likely that people committed this atrocity, since it was of such a high-profile nature and of the greatest importance.
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Re: Edge of the Earth
« Reply #31 on: May 07, 2010, 02:19:38 PM »
Scott of the Antarctic is thought to have reached the Ice Wall prior to his assassination. What lies beyond those great escarpments of ice is lost to human perception.

What was he assasinated by? A skua?

The conspiracy do train attack-birds, but I think it is more likely that people committed this atrocity, since it was of such a high-profile nature and of the greatest importance.

Oh, please. This is beyond a joke. Scott's team had to put in an enormous amount of effort just to get to where they were, effort which had already killed a member of the team. You are suggesting some assassins were just hanging around in the blizzards waiting for them to stroll past so they could pop a cap in them, forge their diaries and make it look as if they died of exhaustion? The exploration teams of Scott and Amundsen and their support crews were the only people in the whole of Antarctica at that time. And if they were going to assassinate them, why leave the bodies where they could be found and why not kill them before they reached the pole? And even more bizarrely, why not bump off Amundsen's lot?
I know this is an ad hominem, but you, sir, are an imbecile.
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Re: Edge of the Earth
« Reply #32 on: May 07, 2010, 02:27:06 PM »
The conspiracy do train attack-birds...

And it would be silly of us to expect you to back this up, wouldn't it?

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Re: Edge of the Earth
« Reply #33 on: May 07, 2010, 02:30:29 PM »
The conspiracy do train attack-birds...

And it would be silly of us to expect you to back this up, wouldn't it?
It wouldn't be much of a conspiracy if thier was evidence.
I'm serious,i think johannes said it on the roundearthsociety.

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Re: Edge of the Earth
« Reply #34 on: May 07, 2010, 05:17:17 PM »
The conspiracy do train attack-birds...

And it would be silly of us to expect you to back this up, wouldn't it?



Teh proofs.
Gayer doesn't live in an atmosphere of vaporised mustard like you appear to, based on your latest photo.


Re: Edge of the Earth
« Reply #36 on: May 11, 2010, 07:03:33 PM »
I'm a new here, but does James seriously believe someone was spotted, at the 'edge of the Earth', by the agents of this 'Conspiracy', whether they be birds or humans?  Does he not understand how impossible a conspiracy of that scale is? 

Trolling makes me angry.

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Re: Edge of the Earth
« Reply #37 on: May 11, 2010, 08:25:32 PM »
I'm a new here, but does James seriously believe someone was spotted, at the 'edge of the Earth', by the agents of this 'Conspiracy', whether they be birds or humans?  Does he not understand how impossible a conspiracy of that scale is? 

James is a troll.

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Re: Edge of the Earth
« Reply #38 on: May 11, 2010, 08:28:36 PM »
I don't know if her notes still exist or not, but her expedition was the subject of a documentary some years ago.  Here is a link: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2602284039812956586&hl=en#

How can you cite her expedition as a valid response if you don't know anything about it? That isn't nice.

You're new here, aren't you?

"Posts: 5" ... Yes you are correct. What is your point, exactly?

That you don't require evidence to be correct about FET.

Oh...Then what do you base your beliefs on? Purely faith?

I don't think the person you're talking to is FES,

as for FES members, they are zetetics not scientists, therefore anything proven by the global scientific community is not to be taken as fact, because they believe that there is a massive government run conspiracy suppressing the truth to make billions off of the funding that goes into  the fake scientific advances, such as space exploration. Also the scientific method is hardly valid, and any claim against aspects against FET will be met with more theories to counter act this and/or your argument will be somehow shown invalid. if your argument is infact bulletproof evidence against FET, they will use logical fallacies to distort this truth and/or stop posting in your thread.

As for FET, There is no map or working theory of anything yet, so you can't disprove it completely if you did have a valid arguement.


TL;DR Science doesn't count here. welcome to argument hell.

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Re: Edge of the Earth
« Reply #39 on: May 12, 2010, 08:50:02 AM »
I'm a new here, but does James seriously believe someone was spotted, at the 'edge of the Earth', by the agents of this 'Conspiracy', whether they be birds or humans?  Does he not understand how impossible a conspiracy of that scale is? 

James is a troll.

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Re: Edge of the Earth
« Reply #40 on: May 12, 2010, 08:51:15 AM »
I'm a new here, but does James seriously believe someone was spotted, at the 'edge of the Earth', by the agents of this 'Conspiracy', whether they be birds or humans?  Does he not understand how impossible a conspiracy of that scale is? 

The Conspiracy does not guard every square miles of the Earth's circumference, but it is fairly easy for them to keep track of expeditions to the exterior, given that such missions are almost always widely publicised.
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Re: Edge of the Earth
« Reply #41 on: May 12, 2010, 01:21:49 PM »
I'm a new here, but does James seriously believe someone was spotted, at the 'edge of the Earth', by the agents of this 'Conspiracy', whether they be birds or humans?  Does he not understand how impossible a conspiracy of that scale is? 

The Conspiracy does not guard every square miles of the Earth's circumference, but it is fairly easy for them to keep track of expeditions to the exterior, given that such missions are almost always widely publicised.

You guys are so unbelievably thickheaded.  'You guys' as in anyone who believes in this impossible 'Conspiracy'.  I say impossible without proof, because I don't feel I need proof to make a claim like that, even if you say otherwise.  It's not worth my time nor effort spending 5 minutes to find undeniable proof that the Conspiracy is fake. 

Trolling makes me angry.

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Re: Edge of the Earth
« Reply #42 on: May 12, 2010, 01:26:43 PM »
I'm a new here, but does James seriously believe someone was spotted, at the 'edge of the Earth', by the agents of this 'Conspiracy', whether they be birds or humans?  Does he not understand how impossible a conspiracy of that scale is? 

The Conspiracy does not guard every square miles of the Earth's circumference, but it is fairly easy for them to keep track of expeditions to the exterior, given that such missions are almost always widely publicised.

Yes, expeditions that go there, get to their destination and usually return unscathed. Rather than being skewered by a skua on route.
Gayer doesn't live in an atmosphere of vaporised mustard like you appear to, based on your latest photo.

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Re: Edge of the Earth
« Reply #43 on: May 13, 2010, 02:49:45 PM »
I'm a new here, but does James seriously believe someone was spotted, at the 'edge of the Earth', by the agents of this 'Conspiracy', whether they be birds or humans?  Does he not understand how impossible a conspiracy of that scale is? 

The Conspiracy does not guard every square miles of the Earth's circumference, but it is fairly easy for them to keep track of expeditions to the exterior, given that such missions are almost always widely publicised.

Yes, expeditions that go there, get to their destination and usually return unscathed. Rather than being skewered by a skua on route.

Unfortunately, because FlatEarthsocientology is an outdated and superseded concept, modern technology is their greatest weakness. So it is very beneficial for them to think "oh, nobody evar goes down there, its wayy to cold", because if they were to admit that many people have gone down to that less that final frontier, their theory would get destroyed.

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Re: Edge of the Earth
« Reply #44 on: May 14, 2010, 03:05:01 PM »
I'm a new here, but does James seriously believe someone was spotted, at the 'edge of the Earth', by the agents of this 'Conspiracy', whether they be birds or humans?  Does he not understand how impossible a conspiracy of that scale is? 

The Conspiracy does not guard every square miles of the Earth's circumference, but it is fairly easy for them to keep track of expeditions to the exterior, given that such missions are almost always widely publicised.

Yes, expeditions that go there, get to their destination and usually return unscathed. Rather than being skewered by a skua on route.

Unfortunately, because FlatEarthsocientology is an outdated and superseded concept, modern technology is their greatest weakness. So it is very beneficial for them to think "oh, nobody evar goes down there, its wayy to cold", because if they were to admit that many people have gone down to that less that final frontier, their theory would get destroyed.

Little do they know that Antarctica isn't quite as horrible as a place as it was even 50 years ago. Most Universities (in the States anyway) have at least one or two geologists plus a handful of graduate students that do seasonal work there.

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Re: Edge of the Earth
« Reply #45 on: May 14, 2010, 05:22:56 PM »
I'm a new here, but does James seriously believe someone was spotted, at the 'edge of the Earth', by the agents of this 'Conspiracy', whether they be birds or humans?  Does he not understand how impossible a conspiracy of that scale is? 

The Conspiracy does not guard every square miles of the Earth's circumference, but it is fairly easy for them to keep track of expeditions to the exterior, given that such missions are almost always widely publicised.

Yes, expeditions that go there, get to their destination and usually return unscathed. Rather than being skewered by a skua on route.

Unfortunately, because FlatEarthsocientology is an outdated and superseded concept, modern technology is their greatest weakness. So it is very beneficial for them to think "oh, nobody evar goes down there, its wayy to cold", because if they were to admit that many people have gone down to that less that final frontier, their theory would get destroyed.

Little do they know that Antarctica isn't quite as horrible as a place as it was even 50 years ago. Most Universities (in the States anyway) have at least one or two geologists plus a handful of graduate students that do seasonal work there.

But the conspiracy involves everyone except FES.



And everyone, I have a noob question about the edge of the earth.
what keeps the air from falling off?

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Re: Edge of the Earth
« Reply #46 on: May 15, 2010, 07:28:19 AM »
I'm a new here, but does James seriously believe someone was spotted, at the 'edge of the Earth', by the agents of this 'Conspiracy', whether they be birds or humans?  Does he not understand how impossible a conspiracy of that scale is? 

The Conspiracy does not guard every square miles of the Earth's circumference, but it is fairly easy for them to keep track of expeditions to the exterior, given that such missions are almost always widely publicised.

Yes, expeditions that go there, get to their destination and usually return unscathed. Rather than being skewered by a skua on route.

Unfortunately, because FlatEarthsocientology is an outdated and superseded concept, modern technology is their greatest weakness. So it is very beneficial for them to think "oh, nobody evar goes down there, its wayy to cold", because if they were to admit that many people have gone down to that less that final frontier, their theory would get destroyed.

Little do they know that Antarctica isn't quite as horrible as a place as it was even 50 years ago. Most Universities (in the States anyway) have at least one or two geologists plus a handful of graduate students that do seasonal work there.

But the conspiracy involves everyone except FES.



And everyone, I have a noob question about the edge of the earth.
what keeps the air from falling off?

A large wall of ice holds in the atmolayer.
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Re: Edge of the Earth
« Reply #47 on: May 15, 2010, 08:09:15 AM »
I propose it's not a wall of ice but a layer of thick plastic. You are unable to prove otherwise. I demand my plastic theory be included in the FAQ as there is just as much evidence for it as there is for the Ice Wall.
Gayer doesn't live in an atmosphere of vaporised mustard like you appear to, based on your latest photo.

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Re: Edge of the Earth
« Reply #48 on: June 03, 2011, 04:17:28 AM »
Scott of the Antarctic is thought to have reached the Ice Wall prior to his assassination. What lies beyond those great escarpments of ice is lost to human perception.

What was he assasinated by? A skua?

The conspiracy do train attack-birds, but I think it is more likely that people committed this atrocity, since it was of such a high-profile nature and of the greatest importance.
Be a bit more specific, the only attack birds they train are penguins.

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Re: Edge of the Earth
« Reply #49 on: June 03, 2011, 04:24:11 AM »
I'm a new here, but does James seriously believe someone was spotted, at the 'edge of the Earth', by the agents of this 'Conspiracy', whether they be birds or humans?  Does he not understand how impossible a conspiracy of that scale is? 

The Conspiracy does not guard every square miles of the Earth's circumference, but it is fairly easy for them to keep track of expeditions to the exterior, given that such missions are almost always widely publicised.

Yes, expeditions that go there, get to their destination and usually return unscathed. Rather than being skewered by a skua on route.

Unfortunately, because FlatEarthsocientology is an outdated and superseded concept, modern technology is their greatest weakness. So it is very beneficial for them to think "oh, nobody evar goes down there, its wayy to cold", because if they were to admit that many people have gone down to that less that final frontier, their theory would get destroyed.

Little do they know that Antarctica isn't quite as horrible as a place as it was even 50 years ago. Most Universities (in the States anyway) have at least one or two geologists plus a handful of graduate students that do seasonal work there.

But the conspiracy involves everyone except FES.



And everyone, I have a noob question about the edge of the earth.
what keeps the air from falling off?

Air doesn't exist, that's just part of the conspiracy.

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Re: Edge of the Earth
« Reply #50 on: June 03, 2011, 06:36:18 AM »
A large wall of ice holds in the atmolayer.

Have you ever seen this wall of ice?
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Re: Edge of the Earth
« Reply #51 on: June 03, 2011, 07:19:58 AM »
My mother has been to Antarctica.  I'll have to ass her about the wall of ice.  Mostly she just reported that it's cold, grey and dismal there.

Re: Edge of the Earth
« Reply #52 on: June 03, 2011, 09:36:02 AM »
Antartica is a separate continent and does not contain the "ice wall"
also there is no real "ice wall" it is a metaphor for the edge of the known earth where the spherical sun does not shine

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Re: Edge of the Earth
« Reply #53 on: June 05, 2011, 12:00:36 AM »
Antartica is a separate continent and does not contain the "ice wall"
also there is no real "ice wall" it is a metaphor for the edge of the known earth where the spherical sun does not shine
Oh I get it. We don't know anything about wherever the sun don't shine.
Scepti, this idiocy needs to stop and it needs to stop right now. You are making a mockery of this fine forum with your poor trolling. You are a complete disgrace.

Re: Edge of the Earth
« Reply #54 on: June 06, 2011, 02:56:08 AM »
I said it before and I will say it again, FE biggest problem is the idea of edge. It is extremely difficult to imagine any edge to our earth and it seems physically impossible for a planet to be flat with edges from which you can just fall into deep space. Infinite flat earth model is the only flat earth model that works. The video that was posted here earlier is very good. However there is no edge, the earth continues on forever and not forever cold and sunless, just over the ice wall are more continents and more suns, paradise lands, endless beauty.
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Re: Edge of the Earth
« Reply #55 on: June 06, 2011, 08:41:40 AM »
You're back?
Scepti, this idiocy needs to stop and it needs to stop right now. You are making a mockery of this fine forum with your poor trolling. You are a complete disgrace.

Re: Edge of the Earth
« Reply #56 on: June 06, 2011, 03:42:16 PM »
Sort of
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Re: Edge of the Earth
« Reply #57 on: June 06, 2011, 04:32:29 PM »
And everyone, I have a noob question about the edge of the earth.
what keeps the air from falling off?

See the Atmolayer Lip Hypothesis:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Atmolayer+Lip+Hypothesis

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Atmolayer Lip Hypothesis

The Flat Earth does not necessarily need to be physically infinite in order to contain the atmosphere. Just very big. Often we might hear "infinite earth" from Flat Earth proponents as an analogy for what exists beyond the 150 foot wall of ice at the Antarctic coast; a stretch of land incomprehensible by human standards.

In order for barometric pressure to rise and fall, an element of heat must be present. Heat creates pressure. A lack of heat results in a drop in pressure. These two elements are tightly correlated in modern physics.

In our local area the heat of the day comes from the sun, moving and swashing around wind currents from areas of low pressures to areas of high pressures with its heat. The coldness of the Antarctic tundra keeps the pressure low. Beyond the known world, where the rays of the sun do not reach, the tundra of ice and snow lays in perpetual darkness. If one could move away from the Antarctic rim into the uncharted tundra the surrounding temperatures would drop lower and lower until it nears absolute zero. Defining the exact length of the gradient would take some looking into, but at a significant distance past the edge of the Ice Wall temperatures will drop to a point where barometric pressure nears the zero mark. At this point, whether it be thousands or millions of miles beyond the Antarctic rim, the environment will gradually match that of background space, and the world can physically end without the atmosphere leaking out of it.

The atmosphere may very well exist as a lip upon the surface of the earth, held in by vast gradients of declining pressure.


Re: Edge of the Earth
« Reply #58 on: June 06, 2011, 06:54:28 PM »
And everyone, I have a noob question about the edge of the earth.
what keeps the air from falling off?

See the Atmolayer Lip Hypothesis:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Atmolayer+Lip+Hypothesis

Quote from: Wiki
Atmolayer Lip Hypothesis

The Flat Earth does not necessarily need to be physically infinite in order to contain the atmosphere. Just very big. Often we might hear "infinite earth" from Flat Earth proponents as an analogy for what exists beyond the 150 foot wall of ice at the Antarctic coast; a stretch of land incomprehensible by human standards.

In order for barometric pressure to rise and fall, an element of heat must be present. Heat creates pressure. A lack of heat results in a drop in pressure. These two elements are tightly correlated in modern physics.

In our local area the heat of the day comes from the sun, moving and swashing around wind currents from areas of low pressures to areas of high pressures with its heat. The coldness of the Antarctic tundra keeps the pressure low. Beyond the known world, where the rays of the sun do not reach, the tundra of ice and snow lays in perpetual darkness. If one could move away from the Antarctic rim into the uncharted tundra the surrounding temperatures would drop lower and lower until it nears absolute zero. Defining the exact length of the gradient would take some looking into, but at a significant distance past the edge of the Ice Wall temperatures will drop to a point where barometric pressure nears the zero mark. At this point, whether it be thousands or millions of miles beyond the Antarctic rim, the environment will gradually match that of background space, and the world can physically end without the atmosphere leaking out of it.

The atmosphere may very well exist as a lip upon the surface of the earth, held in by vast gradients of declining pressure.




Or the earth may continue forever with infinite continents and other suns. Even if there is a sunless tundra beyond the ice wall, after a certain distance there might be other habitable worlds with their own suns. I don't know why this concept is so unacceptable to you Tom?
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Re: Edge of the Earth
« Reply #59 on: June 06, 2011, 06:58:17 PM »
Or the earth may continue forever with infinite continents and other suns. Even if there is a sunless tundra beyond the ice wall, after a certain distance there might be other habitable worlds with their own suns. I don't know why this concept is so unacceptable to you Tom?

It's not unacceptable.

Some people say that a finite earth is unreasonable because the atmosphere would leak off. I was showing how a finite earth could work without the atmosphere leaking away.
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