# Axes to FES Part 3

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#### Thevoiceofreason

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##### Axes to FES Part 3
« on: May 04, 2010, 06:55:23 PM »
ok nobody has successfully ended Part 1 and 2, which can be found here:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=37819.0
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=38533.0

So I think its time for the 3rd blade:

When I first considered the flat earth thing a year back, I wondered how might a sphere differ from a disk? well the answer lies within the realm of geometry: on a sphere, a ray or vector will eventually reach its origin, aka if you go west enough you'll find where east was.

Now according to the FET map on the FAQ page, Sydney should be quite a ways from Santiago, Chile, correct?  When looking at that same map Juneau seems to be about halfway between. Therefore a flight from Santiago to Juneau should take considerably less time than a flight from Santiago to Sydney.

However, in reality, they take much longer.

Your average Santiago-Juneau flight would be about 27 hrs.

http://www.expedia.com/pub/agent.dll?qscr=fexp&flag=q&city1=SCL&citd1=JNU&time1=720&time2=720&cAdu=1&cSen=0&cChi=0&cInf=&infs=2&date1=10/09&date2=10/16&&rdct=1

Yet, Santiago to Sydney flights take  about 18hrs

http://www.expedia.com/pub/agent.dll?qscr=fexp&flag=q&city1=SYD&citd1=SCL&time1=720&time2=720&cAdu=1&cSen=0&cChi=0&cInf=&infs=2&date1=10/09&date2=10/16&&rdct=1

It matters not which points I picked, just take a diameter from the faq and and pick three nearly collinear cities, and repeat the calculation. Explain how this works, and don't just shout conspiracy, private jets exist, and you could easily use an odometer and compass to test this.

#### Tom Bishop

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##### Re: Axes to FES Part 3
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2010, 07:45:14 PM »
There are numerous theories for the layout of the continents:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/tiki/Antarctica

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#### flyingmonkey

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##### Re: Axes to FES Part 3
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2010, 08:00:05 PM »
There are numerous theories for the layout of the continents:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/tiki/Antarctica

And all of them are wrong, maybe you should read what cities he posted and note how far away they are in all of your maps and notice it is a consistent error.

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#### sillyrob

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##### Re: Axes to FES Part 3
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2010, 08:08:48 PM »
There are numerous theories for the layout of the continents:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/tiki/Antarctica
Cool, we can stretch already made maps and make them look flat. I can do it with oranges too. Does that mean oranges are flat?

#### markjo

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##### Re: Axes to FES Part 3
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2010, 08:11:04 PM »
There are numerous theories for the layout of the continents:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/tiki/Antarctica

Numerous?  Is it just me, or does the word 'numerous' suggest more than 2?  Or did you only bother to research (and I use that term loosely) 2 possible layouts?  I'm sure that levee would be more than happy to give you all the information you could ever want on his FE map.
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#### General Disarray

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##### Re: Axes to FES Part 3
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2010, 08:39:14 PM »
FET supporters wonder why the rest of us so stubbornly reject their theory, yet they cannot even come up with a working model of what the Earth looks like that cannot be disproved by readily available flight times.
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#### Thevoiceofreason

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##### Re: Axes to FES Part 3
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2010, 04:42:26 PM »
There are numerous theories for the layout of the continents:

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/tiki/Antarctica

If you read my post it explains why this doesn't matter. a sphere is different than a circle topologically.
pick any three co linear point that lie on the diameter such that two of the outer most points are near the edge.
you will find that the flight times won't align with FES

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#### Thevoiceofreason

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##### Re: Axes to FES Part 3
« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2010, 04:20:50 PM »
further more, how does FET account for there obscenely long south pacific/atlantic? cause there's no way in hell that its longer than the equator

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#### Crustinator

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##### Re: Axes to FES Part 3
« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2010, 04:50:25 PM »
There are numerous theories for the layout of the continents:

If you can't decide which one is right then your theories are pretty useless.

#### Tom Bishop

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##### Re: Axes to FES Part 3
« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2010, 01:03:29 PM »
There are numerous theories for the layout of the continents:

If you can't decide which one is right then your theories are pretty useless.

Once you donate to Daniel we can see about finding out which layout of the earth is the most accurate.

#### SupahLovah

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##### Re: Axes to FES Part 3
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2010, 01:05:59 PM »
There are numerous theories for the layout of the continents:

If you can't decide which one is right then your theories are pretty useless.

Once you donate to Daniel we can see about finding out which layout of the earth is the most accurate.
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#### jackofhearts

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##### Re: Axes to FES Part 3
« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2010, 01:45:34 PM »
FET supporters wonder why the rest of us so stubbornly reject their theory, yet they cannot even come up with a working model of what the Earth looks like that cannot be disproved by readily available flight times.

I agree.  It's a little tough to convince people that the Earth is flat....

...when you, yourself, cannot prove it's flat by coming up with arguably the most key components to an argument like this: a working model of the Earth, be it flat or spherical.

Trolling makes me angry.

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#### Crustinator

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##### Re: Axes to FES Part 3
« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2010, 03:43:58 PM »
Once you donate to Daniel we can see about finding out which layout of the earth is the most accurate.

No. No money for you. Me not giving you money doesn't make you right.

#### markjo

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##### Re: Axes to FES Part 3
« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2010, 04:11:26 PM »
There are numerous theories for the layout of the continents:

If you can't decide which one is right then your theories are pretty useless.

Once you donate to Daniel we can see about finding out which layout of the earth is the most accurate.

What makes you think that Daniel has any intentions of doing any real research (funded or unfunded) into the true shape and/or layout of the earth?
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
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#### General Disarray

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##### Re: Axes to FES Part 3
« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2010, 04:33:42 PM »
It's part of the conspiracy. They annoy us to the point where we fund their 'research' out of desperation for them to shut up.
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#### Thevoiceofreason

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##### Re: Axes to FES Part 3
« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2010, 08:00:03 PM »
I Dream of the day when they come up with all of their theories, and publish them.
By feeding the trolls and Zets we increase their lifespan. of course we can wait for them to die of cancer and stuff like that,
but their beliefs will fall quicker if we try to prove them wrong.

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#### Thevoiceofreason

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##### Re: Axes to FES Part 3
« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2010, 01:14:03 PM »
Not to self bump, but Guys, what about the fact that high altitude flights travel farther?
and nobody has defeated Axes 1,2,or3

#### Johannes

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##### Re: Axes to FES Part 3
« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2010, 08:41:42 PM »
Not to self bump, but Guys, what about the fact that high altitude flights travel farther?
and nobody has defeated Axes 1,2,or3
No disproof of hypothesis != true hypothesis

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#### Thevoiceofreason

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##### Re: Axes to FES Part 3
« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2010, 08:45:55 PM »
Not to self bump, but Guys, what about the fact that high altitude flights travel farther?
and nobody has defeated Axes 1,2,or3
No disproof of hypothesis != true hypothesis

while this is true, I implied a hypothesis, gave evidence and support, cited sources, and wrote a conclusion

#### Johannes

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##### Re: Axes to FES Part 3
« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2010, 08:55:00 PM »
Not to self bump, but Guys, what about the fact that high altitude flights travel farther?
and nobody has defeated Axes 1,2,or3
No disproof of hypothesis != true hypothesis

while this is true, I implied a hypothesis, gave evidence and support, cited sources, and wrote a conclusion
You gave no measurements, no experiments, no anything.

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#### Thevoiceofreason

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##### Re: Axes to FES Part 3
« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2010, 09:04:32 PM »
Not to self bump, but Guys, what about the fact that high altitude flights travel farther?
and nobody has defeated Axes 1,2,or3
No disproof of hypothesis != true hypothesis

while this is true, I implied a hypothesis, gave evidence and support, cited sources, and wrote a conclusion
You gave no measurements, no experiments, no anything.

read my post please.
Measurement: travel time between different locations
Experiment: determine relative distance by determining relative flight times

I looked it up, and spoiler: planes travel on the great circles, aka earth is a globe

#### Johannes

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##### Re: Axes to FES Part 3
« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2010, 09:07:29 PM »
Time is not distance. Distance is what is being disputed. You didn't even measure time.

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#### Thevoiceofreason

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##### Re: Axes to FES Part 3
« Reply #22 on: May 13, 2010, 09:11:31 PM »
Time is not distance. Distance is what is being disputed. You didn't even measure time.

ds/dt=v
last time I checked.
distance is being disputed for reasons previously stated, and the airlines who have gone these routes over 9000 time did the measurement for me

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#### Space Tourist

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##### Re: Axes to FES Part 3
« Reply #23 on: May 13, 2010, 11:28:41 PM »
I think i have solved the earth is a doughnut
hear me out its flat but curved in a 4th dimension
its the only way it would work then you just use a normal  shaped map

btw this is how MS Flightsim models the world lol
Then you have provided evidence for the Earth being a sphere