Changes in the amount of daylight

yes a spotlight would be hard to explain,
but the sun is a floodlight with a broad light wave.
The sun moves all over our round, non spherical earth. this creates the amount of light per one area. Because it is a floodlight its rays can reach 1/2 of our disk earth at once.

It indireclty shines on the moon as well , and as the sun moves and the moon moves this creates the moon phases.

Ther is no consensus on the sunrises, sunsets.
I beleieve this occurs as the sun moves off the disk and its floodlight can no longer be seen.

Quote from: Sliver on May 04, 2010, 07:25:15 AM

So, you suggest that the sun's orbit gets wider between June 21 and December 21, and then shrinks from December 21 to June 21?  And what causes the sun to do this?

What causes gravity? 

you forget, the FAQ is not the true voice of the people that believe in the disk earth theory.

the faq was written by a non believer meant to discredit those of us who believe.

I am going to write a note in the believers forum to see if we can rewrite these.

thanks

You gave a theory.  No one in FES has been able to get a 32 mile wide sun floating 3000 miles above the Earth to properly illuminate the Earth.

Please, link these experiments.  Also, I've provided a nice little scale model that you can use to test what you are suggesting happens with the sun.  Use the search function and you'll find it.  Give it a try.

Here's a little experiment you can try at home to prove your statement.

OK, the sun according to the FAQ, is 32 miles across and 3000 miles away.  A ratio of 4/375.  You could also as that the distance is 93.75 times greater than the size of the object.  You claim the Sun is 32 miles across, and that the Earth is 24,900 miles across.  That means the Earth is 778.125 times larger.  Now, if we scale down the Sun to something a little more manageable for out little experiment, let's say, the size of a U.S. Quarter.  The quarter measures 31/32 in across or .96875 inches across.  Now, let's use our multiplier of 778.125 to figure out the size of our scale Earth.  We get 753.809 inches, or for easier reference 62.817 ft.  Now that we have our diameters properly scaled down, again, sorry for the mistake earlier, we can figure out our surface areas.  The quarter's would be A=3.14*0.484375^2, which equals .7367 square inches, and the scaled down Earth would be A=3.14*31.4085^2, which equals 3097.59 square ft.

So, for this experiment, you need a light source no bigger that a quarter to illuminate at least half of a circle measuring 62.817 ft across.  Go try it and get back to me.  Please be sure video tape it so you can prove it's possible.

Quote from: WardoggKC130FE on May 04, 2010, 08:25:18 AM

Quote from: Sliver on May 04, 2010, 07:25:15 AM

So, you suggest that the sun's orbit gets wider between June 21 and December 21, and then shrinks from December 21 to June 21?  And what causes the sun to do this?

What causes gravity?  

Mass.

Quote from: Thermal Detonator on May 04, 2010, 09:43:45 AM

Quote from: WardoggKC130FE on May 04, 2010, 08:25:18 AM

Quote from: Sliver on May 04, 2010, 07:25:15 AM

So, you suggest that the sun's orbit gets wider between June 21 and December 21, and then shrinks from December 21 to June 21?  And what causes the sun to do this?

What causes gravity?  

Mass.

Not so much.  Light has no mass but can be bent by gravity.

Correction - photons have no rest mass.  Since light is never at rest and since e=mc² says that mass and energy are equivalent, photons are often said to have relativistic mass (mass equivalent to the energy of the photons).

Quote from: markjo on May 04, 2010, 10:20:14 AM

Correction - photons have no rest mass.  Since light is never at rest and since e=mc² says that mass and energy are equivalent, photons are often said to have relativistic mass (mass equivalent to the energy of the photons).

Conceded.  None of which explains what causes gravity.

Conceded.  None of which explains what causes gravity.

Mass.

Quote from: Thermal Detonator on May 04, 2010, 08:25:18 AM

Mass.

Not so much.  Light has no mass but can be bent by gravity.

Mass warping space-time causes the effect known as gravity.  Please try to keep up, will you?

If I put you in a centrifuge, doesn't that cause the effect as well?

We do have a great mechanism for understanding gravity.  It's the FEers who are in trouble because of people weighing more on the poles than the equator (explained perfectly by a spinning round Earth).

You understand the effects....not what causes it.

You understand the effects....not what causes it.

Quote from: WardoggKC130FE on May 04, 2010, 12:26:08 PM

You understand the effects....not what causes it.

The effect of gravity, a measurable force of attraction, is caused by mass.

How many times do you need this explained?

Explain gravitrons.

In physics, the graviton is a hypothetical elementary particle that mediates the force of gravity in the framework of quantum field theory.

Quote from: WardoggKC130FE on May 04, 2010, 04:43:56 PM

Explain gravitrons.

Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graviton

In physics, the graviton is a hypothetical elementary particle that mediates the force of gravity in the framework of quantum field theory.

Quote from: markjo on May 04, 2010, 04:50:59 PM

Quote from: WardoggKC130FE on May 04, 2010, 04:43:56 PM

Explain gravitrons.

Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graviton

In physics, the graviton is a hypothetical elementary particle that mediates the force of gravity in the framework of quantum field theory.

Hypothetical != proven

Quote from: WardoggKC130FE on May 04, 2010, 04:52:42 PM

Quote from: markjo on May 04, 2010, 04:50:59 PM

Quote from: WardoggKC130FE on May 04, 2010, 04:43:56 PM

Explain gravitrons.

Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graviton

In physics, the graviton is a hypothetical elementary particle that mediates the force of gravity in the framework of quantum field theory.

Hypothetical != proven

Or not observed.  But, yes.  What's your point?

What about gravity at the sub atomic level?

My point is noone knows what gravity is, they can only see the effects.

What about gravity at the sub atomic level?

Quote from: Sliver on May 04, 2010, 08:48:49 AM

You gave a theory.  No one in FES has been able to get a 32 mile wide sun floating 3000 miles above the Earth to properly illuminate the Earth.

Please, link these experiments.  Also, I've provided a nice little scale model that you can use to test what you are suggesting happens with the sun.  Use the search function and you'll find it.  Give it a try.

The problem is I already believe in the flat earth with the evidence I've gathered, and experiments already provided. If you want to take your little model and try to disprove theories then, be my guest.

Quote from: Sliver on May 04, 2010, 09:30:42 AM

Here's a little experiment you can try at home to prove your statement.

OK, the sun according to the FAQ, is 32 miles across and 3000 miles away.  A ratio of 4/375.  You could also as that the distance is 93.75 times greater than the size of the object.  You claim the Sun is 32 miles across, and that the Earth is 24,900 miles across.  That means the Earth is 778.125 times larger.  Now, if we scale down the Sun to something a little more manageable for out little experiment, let's say, the size of a U.S. Quarter.  The quarter measures 31/32 in across or .96875 inches across.  Now, let's use our multiplier of 778.125 to figure out the size of our scale Earth.  We get 753.809 inches, or for easier reference 62.817 ft.  Now that we have our diameters properly scaled down, again, sorry for the mistake earlier, we can figure out our surface areas.  The quarter's would be A=3.14*0.484375^2, which equals .7367 square inches, and the scaled down Earth would be A=3.14*31.4085^2, which equals 3097.59 square ft.

So, for this experiment, you need a light source no bigger that a quarter to illuminate at least half of a circle measuring 62.817 ft across.  Go try it and get back to me.  Please be sure video tape it so you can prove it's possible.

None of that takes into account the brightness of said light source.

Explain gravitrons.