Changes in the amount of daylight

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Sliver

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Changes in the amount of daylight
« on: May 03, 2010, 07:33:02 PM »
Here's a question I haven't seen addressed yet.  How do FE'ers explain that in the northern hemisphere the days are getting longer, while in the southern hemisphere, they are getting shorter?  See in your model, that would mean the sun would have to do some really weird orbiting wouldn't it?  I mean, with a globe it's pretty easy to do, but with a flat surface, I'd venture to say it's impossible.  Especially with the size of your light source and how close to the surface your model puts it.  Care to clear it up guys?  And that stupid model you have in the Wiki doesn't get the job done.

Here's a list of sunrise and sunset times from today if you need clarification that days are currently longer north of the equator.
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Sliver

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Re: Changes in the amount of daylight
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2010, 05:52:35 AM »
No FE'ers want to touch this one, huh?

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Lorddave

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Re: Changes in the amount of daylight
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2010, 06:10:29 AM »
The sun moves in orbit, as I've read, and that causes differences in daylight.

Also you can factor in bendy light, sky mirror, or whatever else you want.
You have been ignored for common interest of mankind.

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Sliver

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Re: Changes in the amount of daylight
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2010, 06:22:38 AM »
The sun moves in orbit, as I've read, and that causes differences in daylight.

Also you can factor in bendy light, sky mirror, or whatever else you want.
It must be caused by the giant invisible stealth unicorn.

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WardoggKC130FE

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Re: Changes in the amount of daylight
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2010, 06:41:08 AM »
It has been addressed.  There is a full motion map explaining the phenomenon.  Feel free to search for it.

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Sliver

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Re: Changes in the amount of daylight
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2010, 06:56:33 AM »
It has been addressed.  There is a full motion map explaining the phenomenon.  Feel free to search for it.
I could, but I don't feel like trying to find it.  Why don't you just link it for me.

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WardoggKC130FE

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Re: Changes in the amount of daylight
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2010, 06:59:42 AM »
It has been addressed.  There is a full motion map explaining the phenomenon.  Feel free to search for it.
I could, but I don't feel like trying to find it.  Why don't you just link it for me.

And do all the work for you?  Silly person.  I have already found the truth and knowledge this website has to offer.  If you feel you would like to learn, you are going to have to some of the work yourself.  Thats a real problem in todays society...everyone wants something for nothing.  I don't want to do any work but reap all of the benefits.  I'm not contributing to that.

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Sliver

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Re: Changes in the amount of daylight
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2010, 07:01:56 AM »
It has been addressed.  There is a full motion map explaining the phenomenon.  Feel free to search for it.
I could, but I don't feel like trying to find it.  Why don't you just link it for me.

And do all the work for you?  Silly person.  I have already found the truth and knowledge this website has to offer.  If you feel you would like to learn, you are going to have to some of the work yourself.  Thats a real problem in todays society...everyone wants something for nothing.  I don't want to do any work but reap all of the benefits.  I'm not contributing to that.
Your side makes statements similar to mine all the time.  I figured it was fair game.

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Crustinator

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Re: Changes in the amount of daylight
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2010, 07:02:23 AM »
It hasn't been addressed.

Fxied.

The flat earth celestial map would suggest all points on earth gets 24 hour sunlight.

If the sun were able to stop light reaching certain parts (the Bishop Lampshade Theory) then points on earth would get significantly less light than observed.

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WardoggKC130FE

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Re: Changes in the amount of daylight
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2010, 07:03:21 AM »
It hasn't been addressed.

Fxied.

The flat earth celestial map would suggest all points on earth gets 24 hour sunlight.

If the sun were able to stop light reaching certain parts (the Bishop Lampshade Theory) then points on earth would get significantly less light than observed.

Lurk moar.

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Sliver

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Re: Changes in the amount of daylight
« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2010, 07:06:39 AM »
Wardogg, is this the model you're referring to?
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=1264.0

See the problem with the forum's search function is that you have to know who posted what in order for it to find anything.

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WardoggKC130FE

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Re: Changes in the amount of daylight
« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2010, 07:08:41 AM »
Wardogg, is this the model you're referring to?
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=1264.0

See the problem with the forum's search function is that you have to know who posted what in order for it to find anything.

Very good....at least your trying.  I know the search function isnt the best.

I found this one as well

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=22864.0

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Catchpa

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Re: Changes in the amount of daylight
« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2010, 07:13:52 AM »
What about the Wilmore model?
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Sliver

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Re: Changes in the amount of daylight
« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2010, 07:16:00 AM »
Wardogg, is this the model you're referring to?
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=1264.0

See the problem with the forum's search function is that you have to know who posted what in order for it to find anything.

Very good....at least your trying.  I know the search function isnt the best.

I found this one as well

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=22864.0
OK, and neither of those is capable of explaining why, here in the USA, today is going to have more daylight than yesterday, and down in Australia, today is going to have less daylight.  You care to explain that little phenomena?  It's rather easy if the Earth is a globe, but I'd wager it's impossible to do on flat Earth.  Care to take that bet?

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WardoggKC130FE

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Re: Changes in the amount of daylight
« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2010, 07:18:58 AM »
Wardogg, is this the model you're referring to?
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=1264.0

See the problem with the forum's search function is that you have to know who posted what in order for it to find anything.

Very good....at least your trying.  I know the search function isnt the best.

I found this one as well

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=22864.0
OK, and neither of those is capable of explaining why, here in the USA, today is going to have more daylight than yesterday, and down in Australia, today is going to have less daylight.  You care to explain that little phenomena?  It's rather easy if the Earth is a globe, but I'd wager it's impossible to do on flat Earth.  Care to take that bet?

Well in the model I presented it doesnt show the growing and shrinking circle that is the orbit of the sun.  In the winter the suns orbit is more southernly orbit meaning less daylight in the northern Hemiplane.  In the summer its a more northernly orbit.  Actually quite simple really.

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Sliver

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Re: Changes in the amount of daylight
« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2010, 07:25:15 AM »
Wardogg, is this the model you're referring to?
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=1264.0

See the problem with the forum's search function is that you have to know who posted what in order for it to find anything.

Very good....at least your trying.  I know the search function isnt the best.

I found this one as well

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=22864.0
OK, and neither of those is capable of explaining why, here in the USA, today is going to have more daylight than yesterday, and down in Australia, today is going to have less daylight.  You care to explain that little phenomena?  It's rather easy if the Earth is a globe, but I'd wager it's impossible to do on flat Earth.  Care to take that bet?

Well in the model I presented it doesnt show the growing and shrinking circle that is the orbit of the sun.  In the winter the suns orbit is more southernly orbit meaning less daylight in the northern Hemiplane.  In the summer its a more northernly orbit.  Actually quite simple really.
So, you suggest that the sun's orbit gets wider between June 21 and December 21, and then shrinks from December 21 to June 21?  And what causes the sun to do this?

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Re: Changes in the amount of daylight
« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2010, 07:27:18 AM »
Wardogg, is this the model you're referring to?
http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=1264.0

See the problem with the forum's search function is that you have to know who posted what in order for it to find anything.

Very good....at least your trying.  I know the search function isnt the best.

I found this one as well

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=22864.0
OK, and neither of those is capable of explaining why, here in the USA, today is going to have more daylight than yesterday, and down in Australia, today is going to have less daylight.  You care to explain that little phenomena?  It's rather easy if the Earth is a globe, but I'd wager it's impossible to do on flat Earth.  Care to take that bet?

Well in the model I presented it doesnt show the growing and shrinking circle that is the orbit of the sun.  In the winter the suns orbit is more southernly orbit meaning less daylight in the northern Hemiplane.  In the summer its a more northernly orbit.  Actually quite simple really.
So, you suggest that the sun's orbit gets wider between June 21 and December 21, and then shrinks from December 21 to June 21?  And what causes the sun to do this?

Magic causes this. Magic is real because it hasn't been disproved.

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Crustinator

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Re: Changes in the amount of daylight
« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2010, 07:28:56 AM »
Lurk moar.

Invalid response. Take it back to 4chan.

Re: Changes in the amount of daylight
« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2010, 07:38:56 AM »
i believe the sun is a floodlight and can shine on large or small amounts of land (it can narrow its beam, as in winter, or widen it in summer. 

I do not believe it is a spotlight, and the moon does not shine its own light. Its light comes from our floodlight sun.

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Sliver

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Re: Changes in the amount of daylight
« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2010, 07:48:36 AM »
i believe the sun is a floodlight and can shine on large or small amounts of land (it can narrow its beam, as in winter, or widen it in summer.  

I do not believe it is a spotlight, and the moon does not shine its own light. Its light comes from our floodlight sun.
The problem with that is that it is both winter and summer at the same time.

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Sliver

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Re: Changes in the amount of daylight
« Reply #20 on: May 04, 2010, 07:53:15 AM »
i believe the sun is a floodlight and can shine on large or small amounts of land (it can narrow its beam, as in winter, or widen it in summer.  

I do not believe it is a spotlight, and the moon does not shine its own light. Its light comes from our floodlight sun.
The problem with that is that it is both winter and summer at the same time.
This is the problem with pretty much all of FET.  So many thing have to be made up to make it work that eventually the things that are made up to cover one thing, don't cover something else.  It's kind of like trying to use a little kid's umbrella in a heavy rain.  You can only cover parts of yourself, never the whole thing.  Ultimately, you're all wet.

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Re: Changes in the amount of daylight
« Reply #21 on: May 04, 2010, 08:09:09 AM »
i believe the sun is a floodlight and can shine on large or small amounts of land (it can narrow its beam, as in winter, or widen it in summer. 

I do not believe it is a spotlight, and the moon does not shine its own light. Its light comes from our floodlight sun.

Assuming the sun is a floodlight/spotlight illuminating a certain area on earth, how does light get to the moon?

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WardoggKC130FE

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Re: Changes in the amount of daylight
« Reply #22 on: May 04, 2010, 08:25:18 AM »
So, you suggest that the sun's orbit gets wider between June 21 and December 21, and then shrinks from December 21 to June 21?  And what causes the sun to do this?

What causes gravity?  There are many unexplained things in the universe both in RET and FET. 

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Sliver

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Re: Changes in the amount of daylight
« Reply #23 on: May 04, 2010, 08:37:49 AM »
So, you suggest that the sun's orbit gets wider between June 21 and December 21, and then shrinks from December 21 to June 21?  And what causes the sun to do this?

What causes gravity?  There are many unexplained things in the universe both in RET and FET. 
But we do have an explanation for why the days get longer and shorter on opposite sides of the equator.
Just google "Earth's Orbit" and you'll find a bunch of them.

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Re: Changes in the amount of daylight
« Reply #24 on: May 04, 2010, 08:38:06 AM »
So, you suggest that the sun's orbit gets wider between June 21 and December 21, and then shrinks from December 21 to June 21?  And what causes the sun to do this?

What causes gravity?  There are many unexplained things in the universe both in RET and FET. 

The difference here is that RET supporters are actively attempting to adequately explain those things, whereas FEers are just content to believe whatever they feel like without performing any experiments.
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WardoggKC130FE

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Re: Changes in the amount of daylight
« Reply #25 on: May 04, 2010, 08:39:27 AM »
So, you suggest that the sun's orbit gets wider between June 21 and December 21, and then shrinks from December 21 to June 21?  And what causes the sun to do this?

What causes gravity?  There are many unexplained things in the universe both in RET and FET.  
But we do have an explanation for why the days get longer and shorter on opposite sides of the equator.
Just google "Earth's Orbit" and you'll find a bunch of them.

FET has an explanation for it as well.  I just gave it to you.  


So, you suggest that the sun's orbit gets wider between June 21 and December 21, and then shrinks from December 21 to June 21?  And what causes the sun to do this?

What causes gravity?  There are many unexplained things in the universe both in RET and FET.  

The difference here is that RET supporters are actively attempting to adequately explain those things, whereas FEers are just content to believe whatever they feel like without performing any experiments.

I know quite a few members that have performed the experiments in ENaG.  Have you done any yourself?

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Sliver

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Re: Changes in the amount of daylight
« Reply #26 on: May 04, 2010, 08:48:49 AM »
So, you suggest that the sun's orbit gets wider between June 21 and December 21, and then shrinks from December 21 to June 21?  And what causes the sun to do this?

What causes gravity?  There are many unexplained things in the universe both in RET and FET.  
But we do have an explanation for why the days get longer and shorter on opposite sides of the equator.
Just google "Earth's Orbit" and you'll find a bunch of them.

FET has an explanation for it as well.  I just gave it to you.  


So, you suggest that the sun's orbit gets wider between June 21 and December 21, and then shrinks from December 21 to June 21?  And what causes the sun to do this?

What causes gravity?  There are many unexplained things in the universe both in RET and FET.  

The difference here is that RET supporters are actively attempting to adequately explain those things, whereas FEers are just content to believe whatever they feel like without performing any experiments.

I know quite a few members that have performed the experiments in ENaG.  Have you done any yourself?

You gave a theory.  No one in FES has been able to get a 32 mile wide sun floating 3000 miles above the Earth to properly illuminate the Earth.

Please, link these experiments.  Also, I've provided a nice little scale model that you can use to test what you are suggesting happens with the sun.  Use the search function and you'll find it.  Give it a try.

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Re: Changes in the amount of daylight
« Reply #27 on: May 04, 2010, 09:08:53 AM »
Very good....at least your trying.  I know the search function isnt the best.

I found this one as well

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=22864.0


Last time I checked, the day doesn't light up like that.

It's more like:

http://www.die.net/earth/

Transfer that information to your flat map and see what it looks like and realise a spotlight cannot create that pattern.

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Sliver

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Re: Changes in the amount of daylight
« Reply #28 on: May 04, 2010, 09:12:56 AM »
Very good....at least your trying.  I know the search function isnt the best.

I found this one as well

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=22864.0


Last time I checked, the day doesn't light up like that.

It's more like:

http://www.die.net/earth/

Transfer that information to your flat map and see what it looks like and realise a spotlight cannot create that pattern.
I even gave them a scale model to try and make it happen.  No takers.

Re: Changes in the amount of daylight
« Reply #29 on: May 04, 2010, 09:21:31 AM »
yes a spotlight would be hard to explain,
but the sun is a floodlight with a broad light wave.
The sun moves all over our round, non spherical earth. this creates the amount of light per one area. Because it is a floodlight its rays can reach 1/2 of our disk earth at once.

It indireclty shines on the moon as well , and as the sun moves and the moon moves this creates the moon phases.

Ther is no consensus on the sunrises, sunsets.
I beleieve this occurs as the sun moves off the disk and its floodlight can no longer be seen.