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Re: What's the deal with...
« Reply #60 on: May 01, 2010, 02:20:50 PM »
The FES facebook group is linked in the news bit on the top of the forum but because I'm nice I shall link you directly http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=23033272998&ref=ts
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Re: What's the deal with...
« Reply #61 on: May 01, 2010, 02:25:43 PM »
The FES facebook group is linked in the news bit on the top of the forum but because I'm nice I shall link you directly http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=23033272998&ref=ts

I don't think all 400+ members are believers.

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Re: What's the deal with...
« Reply #62 on: May 01, 2010, 02:26:37 PM »
The FES facebook group is linked in the news bit on the top of the forum but because I'm nice I shall link you directly http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=23033272998&ref=ts

I don't think all 400+ members are believers.

Did anyone say they were?  :-\
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Re: What's the deal with...
« Reply #63 on: May 01, 2010, 02:30:52 PM »
The FES facebook group is linked in the news bit on the top of the forum but because I'm nice I shall link you directly http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=23033272998&ref=ts

Not possible when you're banned, and you'd have no idea of distinguishing the mods between the 400+ members.
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Re: What's the deal with...
« Reply #64 on: May 01, 2010, 02:32:25 PM »
The FES facebook group is linked in the news bit on the top of the forum but because I'm nice I shall link you directly http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=23033272998&ref=ts

Not possible when you're banned, and you'd have no idea of distinguishing the mods between the 400+ members.

Are you really this retarted? You could try looking at seeing who are the admins to the group and make the educated guess that they would be mods...
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Re: What's the deal with...
« Reply #65 on: May 01, 2010, 02:43:38 PM »
The FES facebook group is linked in the news bit on the top of the forum but because I'm nice I shall link you directly http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=23033272998&ref=ts

Not possible when you're banned, and you'd have no idea of distinguishing the mods between the 400+ members.

Are you really this retarted? You could try looking at seeing who are the admins to the group and make the educated guess that they would be mods...

Before calling someone an insult, make sure you know how to spell it properly first, retard.

My point still stands: Not possible when you're banned, and as an addition I'm not much for revealing my identity on this site.
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Re: What's the deal with...
« Reply #66 on: May 01, 2010, 02:47:06 PM »
The FES facebook group is linked in the news bit on the top of the forum but because I'm nice I shall link you directly http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=23033272998&ref=ts

Not possible when you're banned, and you'd have no idea of distinguishing the mods between the 400+ members.

Are you really this retarted? You could try looking at seeing who are the admins to the group and make the educated guess that they would be mods...

Before calling someone an insult, make sure you know how to spell it properly first, retard.

My point still stands: Not possible when you're banned, and as an addition I'm not much for revealing my identity on this site.

Lurk moar.

And what is not possible when you're banned? You can visit the facebook page when you're banned and contact one of the admins of the group on there, or even just make a post on the wall.
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Re: What's the deal with...
« Reply #67 on: May 01, 2010, 02:49:10 PM »
The FES facebook group is linked in the news bit on the top of the forum but because I'm nice I shall link you directly http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=23033272998&ref=ts

Not possible when you're banned, and you'd have no idea of distinguishing the mods between the 400+ members.

Are you really this retarted? You could try looking at seeing who are the admins to the group and make the educated guess that they would be mods...

Before calling someone an insult, make sure you know how to spell it properly first, retard.

My point still stands: Not possible when you're banned, and as an addition I'm not much for revealing my identity on this site.

Lurk moar.

And what is not possible when you're banned? You can visit the facebook page when you're banned and contact one of the admins of the group on there, or even just make a post on the wall.

It's still not to be expected that people use alternative methods to protest their ban, and even less expected that they should reveal their real life identity.
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Re: What's the deal with...
« Reply #68 on: May 01, 2010, 03:02:08 PM »
The FES facebook group is linked in the news bit on the top of the forum but because I'm nice I shall link you directly http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=23033272998&ref=ts

Not possible when you're banned, and you'd have no idea of distinguishing the mods between the 400+ members.

Are you really this retarted? You could try looking at seeing who are the admins to the group and make the educated guess that they would be mods...

Before calling someone an insult, make sure you know how to spell it properly first, retard.

My point still stands: Not possible when you're banned, and as an addition I'm not much for revealing my identity on this site.

Lurk moar.

And what is not possible when you're banned? You can visit the facebook page when you're banned and contact one of the admins of the group on there, or even just make a post on the wall.

It's still not to be expected that people use alternative methods to protest their ban, and even less expected that they should reveal their real life identity.

I'm sure if someone really was concerned that they were unfairly banned they would use alternative methods to protest the ban. But anyway, its already been said in this thread that we are working on providing contact details for protesting bans in the future, so what are you still moaning about? Your complaint has been listened to and action has been taken on it.
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Re: What's the deal with...
« Reply #69 on: May 01, 2010, 03:06:22 PM »
You're the one who keeps this conversation going, I'm simply just responding to make it clearer for you.
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Re: What's the deal with...
« Reply #70 on: May 01, 2010, 03:08:07 PM »
Then I guess this concern is addressed and I can lock this thread.

Edit: Or unlock it as I forgot the original question wasn't complaining about bans but about viewing the forums.
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Re: What's the deal with...
« Reply #71 on: May 01, 2010, 04:07:42 PM »
I created a post listing the contact details of all the mods, using the information available freely on this site. This was intended to help people contact the mods in the case of being banned.

The post was deleted.


This board is for making suggestions or raising concerns; your thread did neither. In any event, it was redundant.


There's no reason not to see the contacts after ban, at least.


Well there is, because the software doesn't allow it. There's nothing we can do about that unfortunately.


I can see how posting in Suggestions after getting a ban would be a bad idea, and would have mods do nothing in here but deleting posts, but I also feel like just clicking the delete button isn't such a time-consuming thing. Real complaints will be kept, spam will be deleted.


Yes, but what happens when the spam is thread after thread filled with gay porn, all over the top two boards? Or child porn? If there's no mod here when it gets posted, it could be up for hours, and this has happened in the past. Likewise, if people can access the site, they can access their profiles, and fill their signature and avatar with child porn or something similar. Before I was made an admin, a banned member with over 1,000 posts did exactly that, and I had to manually delete each post one at a time, because only admins can delete or alter profiles (at the time, Daniel was the only admin).


You have to understand that these are not isolated incidents. Things have actually been pretty quiet in this respect lately, but only a week ago Gayer had to delete a bunch of posts made by someone who edited porn into his old posts. If we give banned members the chance to do this kind of stuff, a lot of them will.


Searching Flat Earth Society on Facebook yields at least 7 resulsts with the name "Flat Earth Society" on the first page, out of 233 results which I have not checked. I wouldn't know which one to look it, and it would be even harder to pin point which member is a mod.


Look, it's not our job to hold your hand. Anyone who really wants to find us there will, as we're one of the first results and have the FES logo on our page. As for knowing who is who, you don't need to know which of us are mods. You can just join the group and make a post there, and one of us will get it. It sounds to me like you just want to be able to bitch at whoever bans you. If that's the case, then frankly all I can say is that I have no interest in setting up a venting system for irrate RE'ers.


I'm not much for revealing my identity on this site.


I think it's pretty funy that a second ago you wer accusing us of being afraid to reveal our identities, asked me for my real name, and then come out with this. ::)


It's clear that what you really want is to be able to send mods angry PMs venting about your ban. Maybe you get the chance to do that on other forums, but things work differently here. It's our job to enforce the rules, not to humour the people who break them.


First off, this is no longer about me so don't even go there. Secondly, I was against the majority of the guidelines because they were flat out bullshit. I put my two cents in, but none of you wanted to hear what I had to say because you all wanted to play "let's pretend to believe" with this FET crap. I was doing absolutely fine with my job as a mod for nearly a year until the lot of you started attacking me out of nowhere, that's when I said fuck it and didn't give a shit about what your little club felt was right.

Furthermore, maybe you should demote your fellow mod John Davis, clearly he cannot moderate justly as well with that "troublemaking" claim in my recent banishment. If stirring the pot of lies is troublemaking, then so be it.

Stop avoiding the issues and actually do the right thing for once and stop being such fucking douchenozzles to everyone because it was a fellow fet clubmember that got put on blast, all of it legitimate reasons as well. That is what is occurring and nothing less.

I don't want to be on the mod team with you so don't even try and argue that is why I am speaking out this way. It's a website, I honestly could care less, I am apparently very capable of doing something else. But the others here, they enjoy coming here, and they do somewhat give a fuck about whatever it is they give a fuck about with this place. Figure this shit out for them, at least, and stop dicking around the bush.


How about instead of ranting, you come up with some constructive criticism? I can't upgrade the site, and I can't change the fact thatwe regularly get porno trolls. These are realities, and I can't wave them away with a magic wand.
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Re: What's the deal with...
« Reply #72 on: May 01, 2010, 04:53:54 PM »
This may seem a little bit ironic coming from me, but I don't see why being blocked out of the website entirely when banned is inherently a problem.  The whole point of a ban is punishment, after all.

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Re: What's the deal with...
« Reply #73 on: May 01, 2010, 07:27:23 PM »
First off, this is no longer about me so don't even go there. Secondly, I was against the majority of the guidelines because they were flat out bullshit. I put my two cents in, but none of you wanted to hear what I had to say because you all wanted to play "let's pretend to believe" with this FET crap. I was doing absolutely fine with my job as a mod for nearly a year until the lot of you started attacking me out of nowhere, that's when I said fuck it and didn't give a shit about what your little club felt was right.

Furthermore, maybe you should demote your fellow mod John Davis, clearly he cannot moderate justly as well with that "troublemaking" claim in my recent banishment. If stirring the pot of lies is troublemaking, then so be it.

Stop avoiding the issues and actually do the right thing for once and stop being such fucking douchenozzles to everyone because it was a fellow fet clubmember that got put on blast, all of it legitimate reasons as well. That is what is occurring and nothing less.

I don't want to be on the mod team with you so don't even try and argue that is why I am speaking out this way. It's a website, I honestly could care less, I am apparently very capable of doing something else. But the others here, they enjoy coming here, and they do somewhat give a fuck about whatever it is they give a fuck about with this place. Figure this shit out for them, at least, and stop dicking around the bush.


How about instead of ranting, you come up with some constructive criticism? I can't upgrade the site, and I can't change the fact thatwe regularly get porno trolls. These are realities, and I can't wave them away with a magic wand.

I've highlighted what I can reasonably discern you are well within your ability to handle.

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Re: What's the deal with...
« Reply #74 on: May 02, 2010, 05:44:35 AM »
First of all, I couldn't demote John even if I wanted (which I most certainly don't). Only Daniel can make that call, as you know. As for telling me to "do the right thing", that doesn't really help. I can't click my heels and say 'Spike Lee' to magic up a solution.
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Re: What's the deal with...
« Reply #75 on: May 02, 2010, 07:21:31 AM »
This board is for making suggestions or raising concerns; your thread did neither. In any event, it was redundant.

It was a suggestion to group all mod contacts in a response to Gayers concern that members should prepare themselves adequately for a ban.

It was intended to help members. It was pretty clear that that's what it was for.

If it was in the wrong part of the forum then you could have moved it to another. But you chose to delete it.

I find that strange.

Likewise, if people can access the site, they can access their profiles,

As an experienced administrator you should know that this isn't true.

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Re: What's the deal with...
« Reply #76 on: May 02, 2010, 07:34:36 AM »
This board is for making suggestions or raising concerns; your thread did neither. In any event, it was redundant.

It was a suggestion to group all mod contacts in a response to Gayers concern that members should prepare themselves adequately for a ban.

It was intended to help members. It was pretty clear that that's what it was for.

If it was in the wrong part of the forum then you could have moved it to another. But you chose to delete it.

I find that strange.


Well, I'm perfectly satisfied that I made the right decision. Your 'intentions' are well known.


Likewise, if people can access the site, they can access their profiles,

As an experienced administrator you should know that this isn't true.


How do you make that out? Assuming this isn't some kind of irrelevant anality, when banning someone one can either prevent them from posting (in which case they can still access their profile) or prevent them from logging in. There's no inbetween, unfortunately.
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Re: What's the deal with...
« Reply #77 on: May 02, 2010, 08:41:27 AM »
Your 'intentions' are well known.

Wow really? Care to elaborate this thinly veiled snipe?

when banning someone one can either prevent them from posting (in which case they can still access their profile) or prevent them from logging in.

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Re: What's the deal with...
« Reply #78 on: May 02, 2010, 09:22:47 AM »
Searching Flat Earth Society on Facebook yields at least 7 resulsts with the name "Flat Earth Society" on the first page, out of 233 results which I have not checked. I wouldn't know which one to look it, and it would be even harder to pin point which member is a mod.


Look, it's not our job to hold your hand. Anyone who really wants to find us there will, as we're one of the first results and have the FES logo on our page. As for knowing who is who, you don't need to know which of us are mods. You can just join the group and make a post there, and one of us will get it. It sounds to me like you just want to be able to bitch at whoever bans you. If that's the case, then frankly all I can say is that I have no interest in setting up a venting system for irrate RE'ers.


I'm not much for revealing my identity on this site.


I think it's pretty funy that a second ago you wer accusing us of being afraid to reveal our identities, asked me for my real name, and then come out with this. ::)


It's clear that what you really want is to be able to send mods angry PMs venting about your ban. Maybe you get the chance to do that on other forums, but things work differently here. It's our job to enforce the rules, not to humour the people who break them.

With 233 results where the majority is "The Flat Earth Society" you really can't expect anyone to know exactly which one the mods look at.

Look, I'm not trying to bitch at you when being banned. I've already stated that if I wanted to, I would've used a proxy(You don't ban all proxies FYI). Now please don't tell me what is "clear" that I'm doing, when you're obviously wrong ignoring my previous statements.

Hell, stop telling people what the fuck their intentions are.
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Re: What's the deal with...
« Reply #79 on: May 02, 2010, 09:28:02 AM »
First of all, I couldn't demote John even if I wanted (which I most certainly don't). Only Daniel can make that call, as you know. As for telling me to "do the right thing", that doesn't really help. I can't click my heels and say 'Spike Lee' to magic up a solution.

So why are you an admin again exactly?

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« Reply #80 on: May 02, 2010, 09:49:54 AM »
First of all, I couldn't demote John even if I wanted (which I most certainly don't). Only Daniel can make that call, as you know. As for telling me to "do the right thing", that doesn't really help. I can't click my heels and say 'Spike Lee' to magic up a solution.

So why are you an admin again exactly?
Lurk moar, newfag. It's been stated several times. Shit, you were even around when he was made an admin.

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Re: What's the deal with...
« Reply #81 on: May 02, 2010, 02:55:36 PM »
First of all, I couldn't demote John even if I wanted (which I most certainly don't). Only Daniel can make that call, as you know. As for telling me to "do the right thing", that doesn't really help. I can't click my heels and say 'Spike Lee' to magic up a solution.

So why are you an admin again exactly?
Its part of a conspiracy to keep the site run by flat earthers organized by Archlord James to overthrow your sound, balanced, and fair moderation and lead us into a monopoly of power.  This monopoly will slowly be expanded to include oil, energy, various resource staples such as corn, Britcoms, matches, technology, etc. 

Ultimately we plan on overpowering the RE conspiracy and attempting to claim lands beyond Australia and the Antarctic as territory owned by the Flat Earth Society.   Once this phase is accomplished we will systematically capture Round Earthers and reeducate them in a secret facility in Bedford Level.   They will be put into slavery for a time suitable enough to pay for this reeducation as well as other rights they will gain from our liberation of their minds from the tyranny of the RE world order.  After this reasonably short service to their world they will be released to live new lives.  This service could include work relating to our monopoly, or the building of the Flat Earth colossus, the largest man made object in the history of the world, which will feature flat earth visionaries like myself, Rowbotham, levee and James.  It is here we will execute terrorists against our cause, including any who oppose us now.

Each year we will celebrate the execution of the terrorists and the freeing of our minds here in a world wide event.  Aerosmith will likely play if they aren't harmed in the reeducation. 

It will be able to be seen from the four corners of the world - the fifth being obstructed by a thick fog of ignorance.  This fog will be put in place so we can leave those damaged by the reeducation, or those in which the reeducation does not stick can live their lives out in peace and seclusion, never again to return to the rest of the world.
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Re: What's the deal with...
« Reply #82 on: May 02, 2010, 03:30:07 PM »
ALL HAIL ARCHLORD JAMES.

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« Reply #83 on: May 02, 2010, 03:33:02 PM »
Of course now that he's told us, he's going to have to kill all of us.  :-X
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Re: What's the deal with...
« Reply #84 on: May 02, 2010, 03:35:19 PM »
First of all, I couldn't demote John even if I wanted (which I most certainly don't). Only Daniel can make that call, as you know. As for telling me to "do the right thing", that doesn't really help. I can't click my heels and say 'Spike Lee' to magic up a solution.

So why are you an admin again exactly?
Lurk moar, newfag. It's been stated several times. Shit, you were even around when he was made an admin.

I think you read that wrong. Try again.

First of all, I couldn't demote John even if I wanted (which I most certainly don't). Only Daniel can make that call, as you know. As for telling me to "do the right thing", that doesn't really help. I can't click my heels and say 'Spike Lee' to magic up a solution.

So why are you an admin again exactly?
Its part of a conspiracy to keep the site run by flat earthers organized by Archlord James to overthrow your sound, balanced, and fair moderation and lead us into a monopoly of power.  This monopoly will slowly be expanded to include oil, energy, various resource staples such as corn, Britcoms, matches, technology, etc. 

Ultimately we plan on overpowering the RE conspiracy and attempting to claim lands beyond Australia and the Antarctic as territory owned by the Flat Earth Society.   Once this phase is accomplished we will systematically capture Round Earthers and reeducate them in a secret facility in Bedford Level.   They will be put into slavery for a time suitable enough to pay for this reeducation as well as other rights they will gain from our liberation of their minds from the tyranny of the RE world order.  After this reasonably short service to their world they will be released to live new lives.  This service could include work relating to our monopoly, or the building of the Flat Earth colossus, the largest man made object in the history of the world, which will feature flat earth visionaries like myself, Rowbotham, levee and James.  It is here we will execute terrorists against our cause, including any who oppose us now.

Each year we will celebrate the execution of the terrorists and the freeing of our minds here in a world wide event.  Aerosmith will likely play if they aren't harmed in the reeducation. 

It will be able to be seen from the four corners of the world - the fifth being obstructed by a thick fog of ignorance.  This fog will be put in place so we can leave those damaged by the reeducation, or those in which the reeducation does not stick can live their lives out in peace and seclusion, never again to return to the rest of the world.

tl;dr next

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Re: What's the deal with...
« Reply #85 on: May 03, 2010, 02:22:23 AM »
If you didn't read it you really missed out on learning the truth
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Re: What's the deal with...
« Reply #86 on: May 03, 2010, 07:11:28 AM »
Your 'intentions' are well known.

Wow really? Care to elaborate this thinly veiled snipe?


Basically, you're a troll =/


when banning someone one can either prevent them from posting (in which case they can still access their profile) or prevent them from logging in.

Act on underlined. I am only here to help.


Yes, but as as I said earlier, if we allow them to log in, they can still access their profiles and do all the things I've already spoken about.


With 233 results where the majority is "The Flat Earth Society" you really can't expect anyone to know exactly which one the mods look at.


Like I said, it's the first group to come up, has hundreds of members, has our logo, and links back to this forum on its main page. It's also regularly advertised/linked in the banner at the top of the forum. Really, anybody with the slightest bit of internet literacy should be able to find it with ease.


Look, I'm not trying to bitch at you when being banned. I've already stated that if I wanted to, I would've used a proxy(You don't ban all proxies FYI). Now please don't tell me what is "clear" that I'm doing, when you're obviously wrong ignoring my previous statements.

Hell, stop telling people what the fuck their intentions are.


Then why exactly do you need to know who is who? Maybe you were just missing the obvious, but it didn't seem that way.


My take on it is this: when you are banned, we state the reason for your ban. If you have a problem with whether or not the ban is justified, then ultimately you'll have to let the other mods review the decision. Believe me when I say that I look into them. Nothing other than a majority of mods disagreeing with the call made is going to see it overturned. If however you've got a problem because the ban seems totally bizarre (e.g. 'alternate account' when you know you don't have an alternate account), then you can get in touch via the facebook page and we'll look into it.


At the end of the day, I am not going to have a situation where banned members can come back here and send people all kinds of crap via the PM system.


So why are you an admin again exactly?


if people can access the site, they can access their profiles, and fill their signature and avatar with child porn or something similar. Before I was made an admin, a banned member with over 1,000 posts did exactly that, and I had to manually delete each post one at a time, because only admins can delete or alter profiles (at the time, Daniel was the only admin).
"I want truth for truth's sake, not for the applaud or approval of men. I would not reject truth because it is unpopular, nor accept error because it is popular. I should rather be right and stand alone than run with the multitude and be wrong." - C.S. DeFord

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Crustinator

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Re: What's the deal with...
« Reply #87 on: May 03, 2010, 07:17:33 AM »
Basically, you're a troll =/

News to me. Any evidence to back up this wild allegation?

Yes, but as as I said earlier, if we allow them to log in...

In which case you need to...

Act on underlined. I am only here to help.



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cmdshft

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Re: What's the deal with...
« Reply #88 on: May 03, 2010, 07:55:24 AM »
With the proper settings, a moderator can do that job. Ask Daniel to make the changes and demote you, since you've basically admitted that you do nothing useful that requires the need of more administrators. When's the last time someone did the deed you were given admin rights to take care of again?

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Re: What's the deal with...
« Reply #89 on: May 03, 2010, 09:46:46 AM »
Since this thread has run it's course, i am going to go ahead and lock it now.