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Re: Holes in RET - Post them FEers
« Reply #30 on: April 28, 2010, 07:08:31 PM »
Quote from: John Davis on April 28, 2010, 04:46:42 PM
I am not discussing the issues I posted with RET.  I was under the assumption that you were compiling a list.

Gravitation does not dimension with altitude ( obviously altitude above the earth.)  RET claims it does.
Then why in the blue Hell do your 32 mile wide sun and moon, floating at 3000 miles above Earth not come crashing down if the gravity at 3000 miles up is the same as it is at sea level?
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« Reply #31 on: April 28, 2010, 07:20:06 PM »
Sliver, gravity doesnt exist. I forget what holds them up, but the force keeping us down is the flat earth spiraling upwards at breakneck speed but we are held at position. I cant for the life of me remember I need to re-read the FAQ.

But on the topic of why the bloody hell we haven't gone to the moon again or sent people to mars.

During our trip to the moon a number of issues happened, some minor. A few very minor AMOUNT of major problems also happened. It also cost the US an arm and a leg and the whole state of Texas and Florida combined or so such. AKA, It cost alot.

The only gain we get from going to Mars is bragging rights, a few possible scientific leaps ahead. And that's about all I can list right now seeing as my head hurts from getting jogged in the jaw. (MMA/UFC Style Sparring/Grappling.)

Now, your going to have to understand some Round Earth style reasoning's as we understand your FE style reasoning's to understand the difficulties in going to mars/moon.

The Debt the US has right now is real, and Obama doesnt feel like funding NASA. NASA wanted to go to the moon again in 2011 (Or 2013 I think.) and asked for the funding in '09, Obama declined said funding seeing as it would have been somewhat wasteful of our money at the time.

Now, the SUPPLIES aren't the issue. The Technology to make the vehicle that is capable of holding Humans for extended periods of time, the fuel for such a trip. The cargo hold or bay for said growing or holding of food, and the air supply and protection (From solar rays, mini asteroids, possible technological malfunctions that always happen.) and workout areas for the crew and millions of other minor and major things required for such a trip are costly beyond belief. The required work is also quite the wall. A simple orbit around the earth is a sweat-filled task even. The Shuttle is a very high tech piece of machinery that has alot of maintenance. And they are aging and are planned to be put down (Decommissioned as the shuttles are going to hopefully be replaced by a new vehicle.) in 2011 or late '010.

I hope this at least helps you understand, and again if any of my points are wrong point them out to me, I have a minor headache and my jaw hurts from getting punched and my thoughts may not be clear.
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Quote from: Tom Bishop on April 04, 2010, 04:06:19 PM
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« Reply #32 on: April 28, 2010, 07:26:39 PM »
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Gravitation does not dimension with altitude ( obviously altitude above the earth.)  RET claims it does.

The force of gravity becomes weaker with distance between masses.  Agreed?  Altitude is just the distance between the you and the Earth.  Ergo, the force of gravity between you and the Earth should diminish with altitude, and this is indeed what we observe experimentally.
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« Reply #33 on: April 28, 2010, 09:28:45 PM »
Quote from: General Douchebag on April 28, 2010, 04:19:57 PM
Whoa, whoa. We need to get two years worth of food/water and working equipment? And find astronauts that like each other?

This is a truly vast expense! Why, NASA would need to save up for a whole hour to get this!

Dude, quit being a douche bag.  The issues he mentioned aren't the only ones that prevent manned missions as of yet.  The problems of zero gravity affecting humans' health is another big issue.  Organ size diminishes over time when in zero g and it is difficult to find ways to keep fit in outer space.  Also, the problems of shielding people from solar radiation comes into play when out in space for years.

I know you think you are being funny or witty, but you just look dumb.
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« Reply #34 on: April 28, 2010, 09:36:11 PM »
The technology currently exists to send people to Mars and return them safely to Earth.  The actual tools, financing and commitment, however, currently do not.
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« Reply #35 on: April 29, 2010, 04:25:42 AM »
Quote from: Xerox on April 28, 2010, 09:28:45 PM
Quote from: General Douchebag on April 28, 2010, 04:19:57 PM
Whoa, whoa. We need to get two years worth of food/water and working equipment? And find astronauts that like each other?

This is a truly vast expense! Why, NASA would need to save up for a whole hour to get this!

Dude, quit being a douche bag.  The issues he mentioned aren't the only ones that prevent manned missions as of yet.  The problems of zero gravity affecting humans' health is another big issue.  Organ size diminishes over time when in zero g and it is difficult to find ways to keep fit in outer space.  Also, the problems of shielding people from solar radiation comes into play when out in space for years.

I know you think you are being funny or witty, but you just look dumb.

Simulating G is easy, as is radiation shielding.
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« Reply #36 on: April 29, 2010, 04:58:41 AM »
Quote from: General Douchebag on April 29, 2010, 04:25:42 AM
Quote from: Xerox on April 28, 2010, 09:28:45 PM
Quote from: General Douchebag on April 28, 2010, 04:19:57 PM
Whoa, whoa. We need to get two years worth of food/water and working equipment? And find astronauts that like each other?

This is a truly vast expense! Why, NASA would need to save up for a whole hour to get this!

Dude, quit being a douche bag.  The issues he mentioned aren't the only ones that prevent manned missions as of yet.  The problems of zero gravity affecting humans' health is another big issue.  Organ size diminishes over time when in zero g and it is difficult to find ways to keep fit in outer space.  Also, the problems of shielding people from solar radiation comes into play when out in space for years.

I know you think you are being funny or witty, but you just look dumb.

Simulating G is easy, as is radiation shielding.
Well, it looks like the FES has found it's NASA spy!  The general obviously knows more about the subject than the numerous scientists surrently in NASA's employ.
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« Reply #37 on: April 29, 2010, 06:09:44 AM »
Quote from: General Douchebag on April 29, 2010, 04:25:42 AM
Quote from: Xerox on April 28, 2010, 09:28:45 PM
Quote from: General Douchebag on April 28, 2010, 04:19:57 PM
Whoa, whoa. We need to get two years worth of food/water and working equipment? And find astronauts that like each other?

This is a truly vast expense! Why, NASA would need to save up for a whole hour to get this!

Dude, quit being a douche bag.  The issues he mentioned aren't the only ones that prevent manned missions as of yet.  The problems of zero gravity affecting humans' health is another big issue.  Organ size diminishes over time when in zero g and it is difficult to find ways to keep fit in outer space.  Also, the problems of shielding people from solar radiation comes into play when out in space for years.

I know you think you are being funny or witty, but you just look dumb.

Simulating G is easy, as is radiation shielding.
Enlighten us on how this is easy, please. You MUST be a scientist to obviously be able to simulate gravity.

Maybe you should work for NASA.

..Alright sorry for snapping, but REALLY? I mean come on, it is NOT easy at all. Please tell us how to simulate gravity and if you can tell us well hot damn you better go work for NASA and become an insider.
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Quote from: Tom Bishop on April 04, 2010, 04:06:19 PM
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« Reply #38 on: April 29, 2010, 06:22:04 AM »
Quote from: dude55 on April 29, 2010, 06:09:44 AM
Quote from: General Douchebag on April 29, 2010, 04:25:42 AM
Quote from: Xerox on April 28, 2010, 09:28:45 PM
Quote from: General Douchebag on April 28, 2010, 04:19:57 PM
Whoa, whoa. We need to get two years worth of food/water and working equipment? And find astronauts that like each other?

This is a truly vast expense! Why, NASA would need to save up for a whole hour to get this!

Dude, quit being a douche bag.  The issues he mentioned aren't the only ones that prevent manned missions as of yet.  The problems of zero gravity affecting humans' health is another big issue.  Organ size diminishes over time when in zero g and it is difficult to find ways to keep fit in outer space.  Also, the problems of shielding people from solar radiation comes into play when out in space for years.

I know you think you are being funny or witty, but you just look dumb.

Simulating G is easy, as is radiation shielding.
Enlighten us on how this is easy, please. You MUST be a scientist to obviously be able to simulate gravity.

Maybe you should work for NASA.

..Alright sorry for snapping, but REALLY? I mean come on, it is NOT easy at all. Please tell us how to simulate gravity and if you can tell us well hot damn you better go work for NASA and become an insider.

Have you ever heard of a centrifuge?  NASA has.
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« Reply #39 on: April 29, 2010, 06:43:56 AM »
Quote from: markjo on April 29, 2010, 06:22:04 AM
Quote from: dude55 on April 29, 2010, 06:09:44 AM
Quote from: General Douchebag on April 29, 2010, 04:25:42 AM
Quote from: Xerox on April 28, 2010, 09:28:45 PM
Quote from: General Douchebag on April 28, 2010, 04:19:57 PM
Whoa, whoa. We need to get two years worth of food/water and working equipment? And find astronauts that like each other?

This is a truly vast expense! Why, NASA would need to save up for a whole hour to get this!

Dude, quit being a douche bag.  The issues he mentioned aren't the only ones that prevent manned missions as of yet.  The problems of zero gravity affecting humans' health is another big issue.  Organ size diminishes over time when in zero g and it is difficult to find ways to keep fit in outer space.  Also, the problems of shielding people from solar radiation comes into play when out in space for years.

I know you think you are being funny or witty, but you just look dumb.

Simulating G is easy, as is radiation shielding.
Enlighten us on how this is easy, please. You MUST be a scientist to obviously be able to simulate gravity.

Maybe you should work for NASA.

..Alright sorry for snapping, but REALLY? I mean come on, it is NOT easy at all. Please tell us how to simulate gravity and if you can tell us well hot damn you better go work for NASA and become an insider.

Have you ever heard of a centrifuge?  NASA has.
Thats not making gravity in space, unless he meant actually simulating its affects. I believe he meant making artificial gravity in space so your not floating around. Which I dont believe we have mastered, simulating? Yes of course we have. But perhaps he should have clarified what form of simulated gravity.
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Quote from: Tom Bishop on April 04, 2010, 04:06:19 PM
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« Reply #40 on: April 29, 2010, 09:24:38 AM »
Quote from: dude55 on April 29, 2010, 06:43:56 AM
Quote from: markjo on April 29, 2010, 06:22:04 AM
Quote from: dude55 on April 29, 2010, 06:09:44 AM
Quote from: General Douchebag on April 29, 2010, 04:25:42 AM
Quote from: Xerox on April 28, 2010, 09:28:45 PM
Quote from: General Douchebag on April 28, 2010, 04:19:57 PM
Whoa, whoa. We need to get two years worth of food/water and working equipment? And find astronauts that like each other?

This is a truly vast expense! Why, NASA would need to save up for a whole hour to get this!

Dude, quit being a douche bag.  The issues he mentioned aren't the only ones that prevent manned missions as of yet.  The problems of zero gravity affecting humans' health is another big issue.  Organ size diminishes over time when in zero g and it is difficult to find ways to keep fit in outer space.  Also, the problems of shielding people from solar radiation comes into play when out in space for years.

I know you think you are being funny or witty, but you just look dumb.

Simulating G is easy, as is radiation shielding.
Enlighten us on how this is easy, please. You MUST be a scientist to obviously be able to simulate gravity.

Maybe you should work for NASA.

..Alright sorry for snapping, but REALLY? I mean come on, it is NOT easy at all. Please tell us how to simulate gravity and if you can tell us well hot damn you better go work for NASA and become an insider.

Have you ever heard of a centrifuge?  NASA has.
Thats not making gravity in space, unless he meant actually simulating its affects. I believe he meant making artificial gravity in space so your not floating around. Which I dont believe we have mastered, simulating? Yes of course we have. But perhaps he should have clarified what form of simulated gravity.


Of course, when I said simulating gravity I meant actually magicking gravity into existence out of thin air. That makes perfect sense.
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« Reply #41 on: April 29, 2010, 09:41:10 AM »
Perhaps we both had an issue of miscommunication? Besides, whats the point of mentioning the centrifuge, what does it have to do with long distance spaceflight besides the training regiments?
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« Reply #42 on: April 29, 2010, 09:45:30 AM »
Quote from: dude55 on April 29, 2010, 09:41:10 AM
Perhaps we both had an issue of miscommunication? Besides, whats the point of mentioning the centrifuge, what does it have to do with long distance spaceflight besides the training regiments?

I was being sarcastic, what I said was perfectly clear and you're just hiding behind it to look like less of a retard. Simulating gravity prevents muscle/organ atrophy and helps the astronauts adjust.
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« Reply #43 on: April 29, 2010, 09:48:29 AM »
Quote from: General Douchebag on April 29, 2010, 09:45:30 AM
Quote from: dude55 on April 29, 2010, 09:41:10 AM
Perhaps we both had an issue of miscommunication? Besides, whats the point of mentioning the centrifuge, what does it have to do with long distance spaceflight besides the training regiments?

I was being sarcastic, what I said was perfectly clear and you're just hiding behind it to look like less of a retard. Simulating gravity prevents muscle/organ atrophy and helps the astronauts adjust.
Yes, I know this, and I know I look like a retard and wont mind it as I obviously misunderstood your post and continued too until I re-read it and got embarassed. But I'm actually not, I was just wondering if you actually meant putting a centrifuge into space. That would be quite the wall to climb over for NASA, possible. But again, the resources and funding would be needed.
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« Reply #44 on: April 29, 2010, 09:50:53 AM »
Quote from: Ellipsis on April 28, 2010, 07:26:39 PM
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Gravitation does not dimension with altitude ( obviously altitude above the earth.)  RET claims it does.

The force of gravity becomes weaker with distance between masses.  Agreed?  Altitude is just the distance between the you and the Earth.  Ergo, the force of gravity between you and the Earth should diminish with altitude, and this is indeed what we observe experimentally.
The Earth is an infinite plane so it does not diminish with altitude and this is what is seen experimentally.
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« Reply #45 on: April 29, 2010, 09:51:50 AM »
Having the ship rotate would be enough, no specialised equipment would be needed beyond careful design.
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« Reply #46 on: April 29, 2010, 09:58:53 AM »
Quote from: General Douchebag on April 29, 2010, 09:51:50 AM
Having the ship rotate would be enough, no specialised equipment would be needed beyond careful design.
Having the ship rotate to cause similar effects a centrifuge causes? If you want to copy the gravity a centrifuge causes it would have to be rotating rather fast. Unless you mean a speciliazed room inside the ship that rotates on the floor which may be easier. But still, again. They dont even have funding to create new shuttles, otherwise they probally would do something similar to that for a journey. And this is only one of many things they would need.
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« Reply #47 on: April 29, 2010, 10:14:25 AM »
Quote from: dude55 on April 29, 2010, 09:58:53 AM
Quote from: General Douchebag on April 29, 2010, 09:51:50 AM
Having the ship rotate would be enough, no specialised equipment would be needed beyond careful design.
Having the ship rotate to cause similar effects a centrifuge causes? If you want to copy the gravity a centrifuge causes it would have to be rotating rather fast. Unless you mean a speciliazed room inside the ship that rotates on the floor which may be easier. But still, again. They dont even have funding to create new shuttles, otherwise they probally would do something similar to that for a journey. And this is only one of many things they would need.

They get $17b/a, which seems to be enough for them to build these manned fireworks they're sending up.
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« Reply #48 on: April 29, 2010, 10:31:38 AM »
Quote from: General Douchebag on April 29, 2010, 10:14:25 AM
Quote from: dude55 on April 29, 2010, 09:58:53 AM
Quote from: General Douchebag on April 29, 2010, 09:51:50 AM
Having the ship rotate would be enough, no specialised equipment would be needed beyond careful design.
Having the ship rotate to cause similar effects a centrifuge causes? If you want to copy the gravity a centrifuge causes it would have to be rotating rather fast. Unless you mean a speciliazed room inside the ship that rotates on the floor which may be easier. But still, again. They dont even have funding to create new shuttles, otherwise they probally would do something similar to that for a journey. And this is only one of many things they would need.

They get $17b/a, which seems to be enough for them to build these manned fireworks they're sending up.
Where did you get their income? Because to launch a single shuttle its 400 million or so and it cost 1.7 billion to make them. For a ship the size and complexity your talking of I will give a rough estimate of..oh say. 20 billion for all of the necessities. Now this is a complete guess myself.

And really where ARE you getting that income from? Because Obama has been slacking down in their funding alot.
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« Reply #49 on: April 29, 2010, 11:16:43 AM »
Quote from: John Davis on April 29, 2010, 09:50:53 AM
The Earth is an infinite plane so it does not diminish with altitude and this is what is seen experimentally.

Hmm, you're either honestly misguided or are being wrong on purpose, though I'm not sure which.  Are you saying the equation for universal gravitation is incorrect, and that gravity between objects DOESN'T weaken with the distance between them?  Is this just one of your "it's true because I say so no matter how many experiments demonstrate otherwise" things that we're just supposed to accept without question, disbelieving our own eyes?

Shout-out to another thread: "the compass points the same way."  Right.  Keep trying to repeat this nonsense until somebody believes you.
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« Reply #50 on: April 29, 2010, 12:38:50 PM »
I just put the current list up on the first post. 

I don't agree that any of them break or even have a problem with Round Earth Theory but hey, whatever you say.
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« Reply #51 on: April 29, 2010, 01:42:25 PM »
Quote from: Lorddave on April 29, 2010, 12:38:50 PM
I just put the current list up on the first post. 

I don't agree that any of them break or even have a problem with Round Earth Theory but hey, whatever you say.
Its not that NASA hasnt gone to mars, we have, rovers. Its that HUMANS appearantly werent sent to mars.
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« Reply #52 on: April 29, 2010, 01:47:27 PM »
Quote from: dude55 on April 29, 2010, 01:42:25 PM
Quote from: Lorddave on April 29, 2010, 12:38:50 PM
I just put the current list up on the first post. 

I don't agree that any of them break or even have a problem with Round Earth Theory but hey, whatever you say.
Its not that NASA hasnt gone to mars, we have, rovers. Its that HUMANS appearantly werent sent to mars.

I'm just saying that were RE true, space travel would be a lot easier than they seem to be finding it.
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« Reply #53 on: April 29, 2010, 01:53:17 PM »
As far as Infinite Planes go, Gravitational pull does not diminish with distance.   Using Gauss's Law in relation to Gravitational Pull:



I suggest you review the squared inverse relationship.

I will not be replying to you further.  

Quote from: Ellipsis on April 29, 2010, 11:16:43 AM
Quote from: John Davis on April 29, 2010, 09:50:53 AM
The Earth is an infinite plane so it does not diminish with altitude and this is what is seen experimentally.

Hmm, you're either honestly misguided or are being wrong on purpose, though I'm not sure which.  Are you saying the equation for universal gravitation is incorrect, and that gravity between objects DOESN'T weaken with the distance between them?  Is this just one of your "it's true because I say so no matter how many experiments demonstrate otherwise" things that we're just supposed to accept without question, disbelieving our own eyes?

Shout-out to another thread: "the compass points the same way."  Right.  Keep trying to repeat this nonsense until somebody believes you.
« Last Edit: April 29, 2010, 01:55:45 PM by John Davis »
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« Reply #54 on: April 29, 2010, 02:20:46 PM »
Quote from: John Davis on April 29, 2010, 01:53:17 PM
I will not be replying to you further.

Because the force of gravity between two masses (and I doubt you'd deny that the Earth has mass) DOES decrease exponentially with distance?
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« Reply #55 on: April 29, 2010, 02:27:05 PM »
Quote from: John Davis on April 28, 2010, 04:46:42 PM
I am not discussing the issues I posted with RET.  I was under the assumption that you were compiling a list.
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« Reply #56 on: April 29, 2010, 02:31:20 PM »
We're also not talking about an infinite plane.  We're talking about the Earth.
And please stop with the low-content posts.

Side note: compass thread.
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« Reply #57 on: April 29, 2010, 02:35:14 PM »
Quote from: Ellipsis on April 29, 2010, 02:31:20 PM
We're also not talking about an infinite plane.  We're talking about the Earth.
And please stop with the low-content posts.

Side note: compass thread.
The Earth is an infinite slab.

This is your warning to stop member moderating.
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« Reply #58 on: April 29, 2010, 02:41:09 PM »
Quote from: General Douchebag on April 29, 2010, 01:47:27 PM
Quote from: dude55 on April 29, 2010, 01:42:25 PM
Quote from: Lorddave on April 29, 2010, 12:38:50 PM
I just put the current list up on the first post. 

I don't agree that any of them break or even have a problem with Round Earth Theory but hey, whatever you say.
Its not that NASA hasnt gone to mars, we have, rovers. Its that HUMANS appearantly werent sent to mars.

I'm just saying that were RE true, space travel would be a lot easier than they seem to be finding it.
It is, its just we -dont have the funding-.

If NASA had continous non-stop funding with at least 5-6 billion a month they would do everything you've stated. But they dont have that much. At most they have 5-6 billion a year. (Estimation.)
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Quote from: Tom Bishop on April 04, 2010, 04:06:19 PM
That would be a simulation of the fabric of space-time bending back upon itself
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Re: Holes in RET - Post them FEers
« Reply #59 on: April 29, 2010, 02:56:37 PM »
If the Earth is round, how can a lunar eclipse occur in broad day light?

If the Earth is round, why does the Conspiracy harass everyone who tries to investigate it?

If the Earth is round, why was John Davis not allowed inland into Antarctica?

If the Earth is round, which way is up?
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