Why, oh Wyoming?

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Re: Why, oh Wyoming?
« Reply #30 on: April 24, 2010, 11:12:39 AM »
I thoght sundials worked only if you knew the true direction of South?!

http://www.wilderness-survival-skills.com/learn-celestial-navigation.html
This time, try reading it.
Fuck you, asshole. I will not read children's stories. If you want to say something quote it here.

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Re: Why, oh Wyoming?
« Reply #31 on: April 24, 2010, 11:16:50 AM »
I thoght sundials worked only if you knew the true direction of South?!

http://www.wilderness-survival-skills.com/learn-celestial-navigation.html
This time, try reading it.
Fuck you, asshole. I will not read children's stories. If you want to say something quote it here.
If you think that wilderness survival skills are "children's stories", then what does that say about you?
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
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Re: Why, oh Wyoming?
« Reply #32 on: April 24, 2010, 11:21:02 AM »
I thoght sundials worked only if you knew the true direction of South?!

http://www.wilderness-survival-skills.com/learn-celestial-navigation.html
This time, try reading it.
Fuck you, asshole. I will not read children's stories. If you want to say something quote it here.
If you think that wilderness survival skills are "children's stories", then what does that say about you?
Idk, ask these people:

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Re: Why, oh Wyoming?
« Reply #33 on: April 24, 2010, 11:35:40 AM »
I thoght sundials worked only if you knew the true direction of South?!

http://www.wilderness-survival-skills.com/learn-celestial-navigation.html
This time, try reading it.
Fuck you, asshole. I will not read children's stories. If you want to say something quote it here.
If you think that wilderness survival skills are "children's stories", then what does that say about you?
Idk, ask these people:
Are you saying that survival skills he uses aren't real?
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
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It is just the way it is, you understanding it doesn't concern me.

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Re: Why, oh Wyoming?
« Reply #34 on: April 24, 2010, 11:36:09 AM »
You're dumb and you post dumb things.

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markjo

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Re: Why, oh Wyoming?
« Reply #35 on: April 24, 2010, 11:42:04 AM »
You're dumb and you post dumb things.
???  You're the one who doesn't want to learn about celestial navigation.  Does that mean that you're dumb and want to stay dumb?
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
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It is just the way it is, you understanding it doesn't concern me.

Re: Why, oh Wyoming?
« Reply #36 on: April 25, 2010, 11:25:55 PM »

How does that work for Australia? Or anywhere in what RET would call the "southern hemisphere"?

Wouldn’t RET predict that an area bounded by two attitudes and two longitudes have northern border longer than the southern one, while FET would predict that the southern border should be the longer?


So, is the best answer that anybody can come up with "people in Australia can't work out where north is"?

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Re: Why, oh Wyoming?
« Reply #37 on: April 26, 2010, 02:18:10 AM »
I'm from NZ, and can work out where South is just by looking at a few stars, from that I can determine North.

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Re: Why, oh Wyoming?
« Reply #38 on: April 26, 2010, 06:40:14 AM »
I'm from NZ, and can work out where South is just by looking at a few stars, from that I can determine North.
So, I guess you do most of your surveying work in NZ when the stars are visible?

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Re: Why, oh Wyoming?
« Reply #39 on: April 26, 2010, 07:29:01 AM »
Once you know where North/South is, you can make a clock based on the Sun when it finally rises.


Tard

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Re: Why, oh Wyoming?
« Reply #40 on: April 26, 2010, 07:35:37 AM »
Once you know where North/South is, you can make a clock based on the Sun when it finally rises.


Tard
How do you know that the direction you determined as North/South is the one you really need to use in a sundial?

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flyingmonkey

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Re: Why, oh Wyoming?
« Reply #41 on: April 26, 2010, 07:59:04 AM »
Technically, I could make a sundial using any direction, I would just have to space out the hours retardedly like your FE maps have done with the RE world map.

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Re: Why, oh Wyoming?
« Reply #42 on: April 26, 2010, 10:45:13 AM »
How do you know that the direction you determined as North/South is the one you really need to use in a sundial?

I thoght sundials worked only if you knew the true direction of South?!

So you don't know how sundials work at all?  ???
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Re: Why, oh Wyoming?
« Reply #43 on: April 26, 2010, 06:09:45 PM »
Technically, I could make a sundial using any direction, I would just have to space out the hours retardedly like your FE maps have done with the RE world map.

How do you know that the direction you determined as North/South is the one you really need to use in a sundial?
Do you have any evidence to support your outlandish claims?

I thoght sundials worked only if you knew the true direction of South?!

So you don't know how sundials work at all?  ???
No,
you.

Re: Why, oh Wyoming?
« Reply #44 on: April 26, 2010, 08:54:59 PM »


*sigh*  If you look at an FE map, you will notice that lines of latitude are concentric circles just like an RE map.  Please learn more about FET so that you can ask intelligent questions in the future.

um, i thought there was no map?

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There is no accurate flat earth map.  Thus we have no way to know if the distances traveled are inaccurate for a flat earth.

oops, contradiction.

oh right, no accurate map... does that mean you make it up? and on what basis do you make it up from?
why do all the countries on a FE map look the same as a RE map?



and once again - What exactly is a horizon and whats its agenda?

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Re: Why, oh Wyoming?
« Reply #45 on: April 27, 2010, 01:32:30 AM »
The entire theory falls to pieces because they can't even make an accurate map.

Even with all the maps available, they cannot even edit one to a flat plane to represent what everyone observes.

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Re: Why, oh Wyoming?
« Reply #46 on: April 27, 2010, 12:59:25 PM »
The entire theory falls to pieces because they can't even make an accurate map.

Even with all the maps available, they cannot even edit one to a flat plane to represent what everyone observes.
How are we supposed to edit several inaccurate maps into an accurate one?
The illusion is shattered if we ask what goes on behind the scenes.

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Re: Why, oh Wyoming?
« Reply #47 on: April 27, 2010, 01:05:15 PM »
The entire theory falls to pieces because they can't even make an accurate map.

Even with all the maps available, they cannot even edit one to a flat plane to represent what everyone observes.
How are we supposed to edit several inaccurate maps into an accurate one?

use crayons

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markjo

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Re: Why, oh Wyoming?
« Reply #48 on: April 27, 2010, 02:46:23 PM »
The entire theory falls to pieces because they can't even make an accurate map.

Even with all the maps available, they cannot even edit one to a flat plane to represent what everyone observes.
How are we supposed to edit several inaccurate maps into an accurate one?
Well, you can start by taking courses in surveying and cartography.
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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It is just the way it is, you understanding it doesn't concern me.

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Re: Why, oh Wyoming?
« Reply #49 on: April 27, 2010, 07:50:17 PM »
The entire theory falls to pieces because they can't even make an accurate map.

Even with all the maps available, they cannot even edit one to a flat plane to represent what everyone observes.
How are we supposed to edit several inaccurate maps into an accurate one?


Usually, when a map works and everything is the way everyone observes, generally it means it's accurate.

Dunno what maps you have been looking at.

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Re: Why, oh Wyoming?
« Reply #50 on: April 28, 2010, 03:55:14 PM »
The entire theory falls to pieces because they can't even make an accurate map.

Even with all the maps available, they cannot even edit one to a flat plane to represent what everyone observes.
How are we supposed to edit several inaccurate maps into an accurate one?


Usually, when a map works and everything is the way everyone observes, generally it means it's accurate.

Dunno what maps you have been looking at.
Not really.  I can make a map on a napkin to my house from a pub, and it would work and everyone would agree it is observable, but it would be inaccurate.  The only 100% accurate map is reality.  We settle for less accurate maps because they are handy.  Given your model, road maps don't take into account the shape of the earth - but they are accurate and observable.
The illusion is shattered if we ask what goes on behind the scenes.

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Re: Why, oh Wyoming?
« Reply #51 on: April 28, 2010, 09:15:21 PM »
Ah, but you are talking local scale maps.

Try find the innacuracies in Google Earth, something that does the complete globe in a single map.

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Re: Why, oh Wyoming?
« Reply #52 on: April 29, 2010, 05:04:20 AM »
The entire theory falls to pieces because they can't even make an accurate map.

Even with all the maps available, they cannot even edit one to a flat plane to represent what everyone observes.
How are we supposed to edit several inaccurate maps into an accurate one?


Usually, when a map works and everything is the way everyone observes, generally it means it's accurate.

Dunno what maps you have been looking at.
Not really.  I can make a map on a napkin to my house from a pub, and it would work and everyone would agree it is observable, but it would be inaccurate.  The only 100% accurate map is reality.  We settle for less accurate maps because they are handy.  Given your model, road maps don't take into account the shape of the earth - but they are accurate and observable.
That is because a road map is only a small section of the surface of the Earth.  A flat map of the entire United States is fairly accurate, but not as accurate as a map of on particular state, which is also not as accurate as a city map.  The smaller the area being mapped, the less effect the curvature of the Earth has on it.

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Re: Why, oh Wyoming?
« Reply #53 on: June 05, 2010, 01:25:22 PM »
Ah, but you are talking local scale maps.

Try find the innacuracies in Google Earth, something that does the complete globe in a single map.
Well the obvious one would be that its shaped like some sort of wibbly wobbly nonsense ball.
The illusion is shattered if we ask what goes on behind the scenes.

Re: Why, oh Wyoming?
« Reply #54 on: June 05, 2010, 03:07:02 PM »
Ah, but you are talking local scale maps.

Try find the innacuracies in Google Earth, something that does the complete globe in a single map.
Well the obvious one would be that its shaped like some sort of wibbly wobbly nonsense ball.

Uh...

...what?

Trolling makes me angry.

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Re: Why, oh Wyoming?
« Reply #55 on: June 07, 2010, 11:20:48 AM »
as for the actual post,
while your reasoning isn't sound, this is exactly what I showed about colorado in another thread.
if you integrate to find the area of the state in polar coordinates (disk world) your estimation is off by almost 50%
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=38808.msg965503#msg965503