Things yet to be explained(Properly) by FET.

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Re: Things yet to be explained(Properly) by FET.
« Reply #60 on: April 29, 2010, 07:56:20 PM »
You can probably add the Coriolis effect to the list. The best explanations offered are for things that have never been observed/have no basis in science/wouldn't work even if they were real.

And I just watched a couple satellites go over.

By the way, the earth and the rest of the solar system are estimated to be about 4 billion years old.
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Re: Things yet to be explained(Properly) by FET.
« Reply #61 on: April 29, 2010, 08:16:17 PM »
And one can never forget compasses (linked to in sig).

Re: Things yet to be explained(Properly) by FET.
« Reply #62 on: May 01, 2010, 06:41:10 AM »
You should try to find each topic of the specific problem and add a link to each problem, sort of like what you did for the ISS. That way its eaiser for them to see what to explain, how to explain it. Or for them to realize they really are wrong.

GPS Link 1: http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=38638.0

GPS link 2 *I prefer this one*: http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=36546.0
That would be a simulation of the fabric of space-time bending back upon itself

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Re: Things yet to be explained(Properly) by FET.
« Reply #63 on: May 03, 2010, 10:36:16 PM »
how the flat earth could have possibly formed in the first place?!

Re: Things yet to be explained(Properly) by FET.
« Reply #64 on: May 04, 2010, 08:07:19 AM »
how the round earth could have possibly formed in the first place?!
This works both ways, all ideas of how a round earth was formed are theories, big bang, dust clouds, etc. This theory is just about a flat earth and that it exists, not how it was formed.
That would be a simulation of the fabric of space-time bending back upon itself

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Re: Things yet to be explained(Properly) by FET.
« Reply #65 on: May 29, 2010, 10:51:31 AM »
I am bumping this thread because more evidence may have surfaced since it was last posted in.
Added Tropic Lines.

Re: Things yet to be explained(Properly) by FET.
« Reply #66 on: May 30, 2010, 07:02:50 PM »
FE'ers have their work cut out for them here.  Yet it's chillingly unsurprising that not a single FE'er has tried to disprove, or even attempt to argue about any of the topics posted here.

Not sure if it's been mentioned, but UA...?  I'd like you FE'ers to at least rename it.  The term "Universal Acceleration" implies that it moves everything.  But apparently UA is fickle and selective and seems to favor an impossibly flat Earth. 

It's really a shame that the FE'ers have stayed clear of this post; I was looking forward to some of their responses to these points.

Trolling makes me angry.

Re: Things yet to be explained(Properly) by FET.
« Reply #67 on: May 31, 2010, 06:36:46 PM »
how the round earth could have possibly formed in the first place?!
This works both ways, all ideas of how a round earth was formed are theories, big bang, dust clouds, etc. This theory is just about a flat earth and that it exists, not how it was formed.

A plausible explanation exists as to how a round earth could form. See mainstream cosmology. But if there is no possible way we could imagine a flat earth forming, we must conclude that either a flat earth cannot exist or that if it does exist, it never formed. The earth definitely formed, and so we can eliminate the latter. So if we cannot give a plausible explanation for a how a flat earth formed, then the earth cannot possibly be flat.

Mankind in the last couple of thousand years has become the only animal in the history of the world to discover the shape of the world itself. It's great, isn't it? It's round, and anyone who doesn't think so must deny that any of the things mentioned in this thread are problematic.

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Re: Things yet to be explained(Properly) by FET.
« Reply #68 on: June 02, 2010, 11:41:52 AM »
after reading every post on this topic, I noticed that only 1 flat earth thoerist responded. I think finally they are awakening from their coma's that put them into a flat, parallel universe, and finally understanding that the world is actually round... LOL

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Re: Things yet to be explained(Properly) by FET.
« Reply #69 on: June 02, 2010, 07:44:13 PM »

It's really a shame that the FE'ers have stayed clear of this post; I was looking forward to some of their responses to these points.
Indeed,if you wanted to prove the hypothesis of FE correct this would be the best place to start.

EDIT:Added a new section for those things FE'ers say that have been disproved.Now just to get it out of the way,i am thinking of putting bendy light first.
« Last Edit: June 02, 2010, 08:36:57 PM by The Question1 »

Re: Things yet to be explained(Properly) by FET.
« Reply #70 on: June 03, 2010, 11:49:50 AM »
The Compilation of Things Yet to be Explained Properly by FET
Please tell me if edits need to be made.

-Have fun, FE’ers!  Pick ‘n choose.-

Why Gnomonic projection works in map creation

Why FET can’t produce a working map

Seismic profiles

The shadow of the moon when it's not lit (ie. crater walls being lit but the surface around that crater isn't) and why it's very straight in how it looks during a half moon or during the day at certain positions.  Essentially how it looks like a shadow when, according to FE, it's really the "anti-moon".

Asteroids falling to Earth

Radioactive isotopes should not exist under the FE model

FET says gravity exists everywhere EXCEPET Earth

Consistent model for ‘Midnight Sun’ (no messed up time zones please)

Massive travel distances in Southern ‘hemiplane’

GPS (no alternate sources, only comes from satellites)

Horizon (no bendy light, please)

Why nobody can reach a latitude of 91 degrees South

Where is the ‘disc’ in the South polar base?

Why nobody flying in a plane over Antarctica can see the edge

Why RE maps work as flawlessly as they do

Why inertial navigation systems enable one to travel in a straight line on a round Earth but force you to curve on a flat Earth (only going East-West: N-S straight lines still allowed?)

Why the Sun appears to rise due east world wide at the Equinoxes

Why nobody has seen the ‘ice wall’

How the Conspiracy could be kept a secret

What is on the other ‘side’ of the flat Earth?

Thickness of the flat Earth

Why we are (cosmically) such an anomaly

Universal Acceleration

Why UA only affects the Earth (…?)

Why the International Space Station can be observed from the Earth

Why Jupiter can be seen to spin through a telescope (implying that it must be round)

Why the FAQ is so f@*ked up (namely sunsets/sunrises)

The frequent movements of the Sun

Why the Sun always appears round / why it doesn’t get significantly smaller as it sets

Why there are no sightings of the ‘ice wall’ be explorers in Antarctica

How the ‘Conspiracy’ could make a profit

Sun’s power source

Nuclear fusion/fission

Sunspots

Plate tectonics

The core of the Earth

Magnetism

Nautical mapping

Flight times

Pluto (how gravitational forces let to its discovery)

Orbit of Uranus

Coriolis Effect

Chronology of Earth/universe

How the Earth was created (or anything else for that matter)
Compasses

Tropic Lines

Trolling makes me angry.

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Re: Things yet to be explained(Properly) by FET.
« Reply #71 on: June 03, 2010, 12:16:02 PM »
lol jackofhearts i applaud you for spending the time to look for this many topics that yet need to be explained by FET. Well done. Let's see if they can scratch even one of them off this list.

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Re: Things yet to be explained(Properly) by FET.
« Reply #72 on: June 04, 2010, 03:17:36 PM »

Trolling makes me angry.

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Re: Things yet to be explained(Properly) by FET.
« Reply #73 on: June 04, 2010, 03:23:31 PM »
And what a shock, RET has viable and consistent explanations for all those things (or why some of those things do not need to exist).
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Re: Things yet to be explained(Properly) by FET.
« Reply #74 on: June 04, 2010, 03:25:02 PM »
And what a shock, RET has viable and consistent explanations for all those things (or why some of those things do not need to exist).

 :o Imagine that!

And it's awfully quiet here.

Trolling makes me angry.

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Re: Things yet to be explained(Properly) by FET.
« Reply #75 on: June 06, 2010, 07:13:58 AM »
Also: why do stars look different from the USA and Australia?

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Re: Things yet to be explained(Properly) by FET.
« Reply #76 on: June 06, 2010, 07:48:16 AM »
Also: why do stars look different from the USA and Australia?

Because they're looking at different parts of the sky.  ::)
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Re: Things yet to be explained(Properly) by FET.
« Reply #77 on: June 23, 2010, 08:29:14 AM »
Bumped because i think this topic is important.
Mainly to keep track of the disproofs that may get lost over time in the forum.

Re: Things yet to be explained(Properly) by FET.
« Reply #78 on: June 23, 2010, 11:17:31 AM »
FET cannot adequately explain any of these topics without a creating a ridiculous theory that makes far too many assumptions or is based on never before observed phenomenon.                    
« Last Edit: June 23, 2010, 12:49:44 PM by Ranger 3 »

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Re: Things yet to be explained(Properly) by FET.
« Reply #79 on: June 24, 2010, 02:10:20 PM »
FET cannot adequately explain any of these topics without a creating a ridiculous theory that makes far too many assumptions or is based on never before observed phenomenon.                    
And then they claim them to be proven theories, which are better than the hypotheses of science. wow, are we being trolled. I'd like them to go to a college lecture and claim that astrophysics and cosmology are just hypotheses and that they have the real theories.

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Re: Things yet to be explained(Properly) by FET.
« Reply #80 on: July 01, 2010, 02:16:18 AM »
And what a shock, RET has viable and consistent explanations for all those things (or why some of those things do not need to exist).
You know what the FE answers for this is? Show me the proof for all of these and explain all these to me in that way that even the idiot can understand. And you must do it only by yourself and you must do it in this forum. If you can't then all this previously mentioned stuff doesn't count for anything.
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http://thulescientific.com/Lynch%20Curvature%202008.pdf - Visually discerning the curvature of the Earth
http://thulescientific.com/TurbulentShipWakes_Lynch_AO_2005.pdf - Turbulent ship wakes:further evidence that the Earth is round.

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Re: Things yet to be explained(Properly) by FET.
« Reply #81 on: July 01, 2010, 08:03:52 AM »
And what a shock, RET has viable and consistent explanations for all those things (or why some of those things do not need to exist).
You know what the FE answers for this is? Show me the proof for all of these and explain all these to me in that way that even the idiot can understand. And you must do it only by yourself and you must do it in this forum. If you can't then all this previously mentioned stuff doesn't count for anything.
That is actually fairly accurate. Go on.
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Re: Things yet to be explained(Properly) by FET.
« Reply #82 on: September 08, 2010, 03:05:45 AM »
Obviously, FE'ers utterly fail to come even close to rationally and honestly explaining away the above listed objections to FET.  All they can possibly do by continuing to cling to FET is to make themselves look ever more ridiculous and foolish.  Most of the "FE'ers" on this forum are devil's advocates who know this full well and are carrying on the debate merely for the sake of debating.  That's why I don't waste nearly as much time here as I used to.  I visit now only when I feel the need to experience a good, mood enhancing belly laugh!
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Re: Things yet to be explained(Properly) by FET.
« Reply #83 on: September 08, 2010, 12:25:31 PM »
1) How circumnavigation is accurate with a spherical coordinate system either by GPS or by manual course plotting via use of the Sun, moon, and stars.

2) Optical Phenomenon such as a superior mirage, Green Flashes, After Glow, and various other optical phenomenon consistent with RET.

3) The ability to pass a time, speed, and distance calculation

4) How a spherical coordinate system is navigable on a FE model

6) Earthquakes thread showing P-waves and S-waves being consistent with RET

7) How to address anything without deflecting, ignoring, or invoking CT

8) How bending light can produce the curvature of the earth on both the X and Y axis at ground level over an uneven flat plane surface area.

9) How bending light that bends equally, and at the same velocity can be applicable to Snell's law.

10) Why I can send my own camera into the upper most atmosphere and get pictures of Earth consistent with everyone else's to which include NASA's and other students across the globe.

11) How stick shadows being measured across the world by students is showing Earth to be spherical

13) why I can track the orbits of the moon and sun to show that they are indeed orbiting a spherical Earth.

14) Why I can see the ISS from my own Telescope. Or that the moon is indeed as predicted.

15) Why the distance of the moon and sun are accurately measured using Radar, triangulation, and parallax.

16) How they ever got anything they claim to be true about FE.
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Re: Things yet to be explained(Properly) by FET.
« Reply #84 on: September 22, 2010, 06:26:37 AM »
14) Why I can see the ISS from my own Telescope. Or that the moon is indeed as predicted.

Already suggested. I'll get Question to get back on and add these next time I 'see' him.
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Re: Things yet to be explained(Properly) by FET.
« Reply #85 on: September 23, 2010, 02:58:46 PM »
Good,now if i can find threads to go with it,the thread will be stronger.

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Re: Things yet to be explained(Properly) by FET.
« Reply #86 on: October 03, 2010, 07:23:00 PM »
Really? Not one 'flat earther' comes forward? Not one wishes to challenge this list with a valid reason? I admit, I'm a bit disappointed.
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Re: Things yet to be explained(Properly) by FET.
« Reply #87 on: April 10, 2011, 10:10:07 AM »
Absolutely had to bump this! Just discovered this site and I have to say I'm dumbfounded! Answers to some of the points raised in this thread from the RE heads would be great. Oh, please don't refer me to the wiki or to "lurk more".

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Re: Things yet to be explained(Properly) by FET.
« Reply #88 on: April 10, 2011, 10:12:00 AM »
Absolutely had to bump this! Just discovered this site and I have to say I'm dumbfounded! Answers to some of the points raised in this thread from the RE heads would be great. Oh, please don't refer me to the wiki or to "lurk more".

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Re: Things yet to be explained(Properly) by FET.
« Reply #89 on: April 10, 2011, 11:11:15 AM »
SOLD!  I'm am more convinced than ever before that the world is in fact globular/round, especially in light of this overwhelming evidence.