Why are the countries on the FET map so distorted?

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2fst4u

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Re: Why are the countries on the FET map so distorted?
« Reply #180 on: April 19, 2010, 11:02:38 PM »
1. Everything Ergonomicsky just posted.
2.  You have yet to comment on my Australia comparison.
Australia isn't a real country. Stop talking about it.

All questions have been answered. This thread is as good as dead.

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Lord Wilmore

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Re: Why are the countries on the FET map so distorted?
« Reply #181 on: April 22, 2010, 01:57:11 AM »

I'm not being pedantic about anything. Please point out a single instance where I have engaged in pedantry of any kind. I'm not debating semantics, using sophistic arguments, moving the goalposts, or doing anything of the sort. Your claim is totally fabricated, and I directly challenge you to find a single instance of such behaviour on my part in this thread. If you can't, I ask that you retract your unfair and unjustified comments.


All I'm asking for is some actual evidence that FE maps are distorted. You know, evidence, that thing that is used to back up otherwise baseless claims. None has been posted, by you or anyone else. End of story. End of discussion. If you want to claim that asking for evidence is 'pedantry', then go right ahead, but don't expect anyone to enter into serious discussion with you.

The following post is EarthISroundISproven showing you what he's basing his cartographic convictions on, as you asked him in the post above his:

Quote from:  EarthISroundISproven
I've spent ten years making nautical maps. I can tell you right now that the FE map is incorrect. The distance between cape horn and cape town alone on the FE map is approx 5 times what it is in reality. I know it takes me 12 days at 14 knots to sail between the two. On the FE map it would take five times that! (or I would have to sail at a speed no ship can do to make it in 12 days) How stupid do you think we are. How stupid do you think the thousands of vessels and the navigators that sail them every day accross every ocean are? FACT the earth is a globe...proven every day by every ship that sails accross an ocean. Get yourself a boat and see for yourself Wilmore.

Your answer a few posts below:

Quote from: Lord Wilmore
So the answer is that none of you know that FE maps are distorted, or that RE maps are accurate. You just assume these things.

Glad we cleared that up.

So he's clearly explained to you why the maps he's using to sail from cape horn to cape town must be accurate (see: the sailed distance and the amount of time it took fit with what the RE-based map predicts, not with what your FE-maps predict), and you flatly ignore this explanation by telling him he's just assuming things.

Let me tell you: nothing in his post makes me think that he's assuming things. He clearly knows what he's talking about. The difference is: I'm willing to accept his account of the journeys he's made, you're unwilling to do this and thus you continue to ask for "more proof".

Hence my proposition:
If you don't believe him when he's telling you about his experience, then by all means go find out for yourself if the RE-maps are correct.

And that's just one example. I could post a few more, if you like.

Btw: I'm not looking for a debate about this. I'm simply pointing out what makes it so bloody difficult / annoying to argue with you FE-ers. Nothing personal of course, as I don't know you as person => simply aimed at the way debates are being held in here.


This post is so stupid it beggars belief. The only reason you think he "clearly knows what he's talking about" is because he says so. He has presented no evidence whatsoever. On this forum, you can't just make a claim and expect everyone to take your word for it. Would you take my word for it if I claimed the opposite? I doubt it.
"I want truth for truth's sake, not for the applaud or approval of men. I would not reject truth because it is unpopular, nor accept error because it is popular. I should rather be right and stand alone than run with the multitude and be wrong." - C.S. DeFord

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Parsifal

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Re: Why are the countries on the FET map so distorted?
« Reply #182 on: April 22, 2010, 01:58:56 AM »
This post is so stupid it beggars belief.

Please refrain from making personal attacks in the debate fora.
I'm going to side with the white supremacists.

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Lord Wilmore

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Re: Why are the countries on the FET map so distorted?
« Reply #183 on: April 22, 2010, 02:07:11 AM »
A post is not a person.
"I want truth for truth's sake, not for the applaud or approval of men. I would not reject truth because it is unpopular, nor accept error because it is popular. I should rather be right and stand alone than run with the multitude and be wrong." - C.S. DeFord

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Lord Xenu

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Re: Why are the countries on the FET map so distorted?
« Reply #184 on: April 22, 2010, 03:12:38 AM »
Australia isn't a real country. Stop talking about it.

I remember that topic. It was brilliant.

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Parsifal

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Re: Why are the countries on the FET map so distorted?
« Reply #185 on: April 22, 2010, 03:53:11 AM »
A post is not a person.

Do you have any evidence to support this claim?
I'm going to side with the white supremacists.

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Sliver

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Re: Why are the countries on the FET map so distorted?
« Reply #186 on: April 22, 2010, 07:18:45 AM »
A post is not a person.

Do you have any evidence to support this claim?
See any post by Tom Bishop.

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Sliver

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Re: Why are the countries on the FET map so distorted?
« Reply #187 on: April 22, 2010, 07:19:32 AM »
All I'm asking for is some actual evidence that FE maps are distorted. You know, evidence, that thing that is used to back up otherwise baseless claims. None has been posted, by you or anyone else. End of story. End of discussion. If you want to claim that asking for evidence is 'pedantry', then go right ahead, but don't expect anyone to enter into serious discussion with you.
How's this for proof?  Here are your flat Earth map and a round Earth map side by side.  



I've circled Australia in red on both of them.  Now, in the RE map, people have been using this map for centuries and it has been proven to work.  You can use it get from point A to point B with accurate distances and topography.  How, look at Australia on your map.  Notice how it doesn't look the same?  It actually looks kind of squished.  If your map were accurate, then people would have noticed that they were crossing the continent in less than the nearly 1200 miles the RE map says it is from North to South across the middle.  Your thoughts?

PS.  I'm still waiting for a response from you on another topic Link
Wilmore, I gave you your example of distorted on the FE map.

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Sliver

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Re: Why are the countries on the FET map so distorted?
« Reply #188 on: April 22, 2010, 07:21:51 AM »
This post is so stupid it beggars belief.

Please refrain from making personal attacks in the debate fora.
Do as I say, not as I do, eh?
Quote from: Parsifal: From the "Why are the stars viewed from Australia different than from USA?" Thread
Wrong subforum, hasn't read the FAQ. Ban this idiot.
Here's the link in case you think I just made it up.  It's the third post on the thread.
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=38188.msg952517#msg952517

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Parsifal

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Re: Why are the countries on the FET map so distorted?
« Reply #189 on: April 22, 2010, 07:27:41 AM »
This post is so stupid it beggars belief.

Please refrain from making personal attacks in the debate fora.
Do as I say, not as I do, eh?
Quote from: Parsifal: From the "Why are the stars viewed from Australia different than from USA?" Thread
Wrong subforum, hasn't read the FAQ. Ban this idiot.
Here's the link in case you think I just made it up.  It's the third post on the thread.
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=38188.msg952517#msg952517

Simply stating that someone is an idiot when they are an idiot isn't a personal attack, it's a statement of fact.
I'm going to side with the white supremacists.

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Re: Why are the countries on the FET map so distorted?
« Reply #190 on: April 22, 2010, 07:30:44 AM »
This post is so stupid it beggars belief.

Please refrain from making personal attacks in the debate fora.
Do as I say, not as I do, eh?
Quote from: Parsifal: From the "Why are the stars viewed from Australia different than from USA?" Thread
Wrong subforum, hasn't read the FAQ. Ban this idiot.
Here's the link in case you think I just made it up.  It's the third post on the thread.
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=38188.msg952517#msg952517

Simply stating that someone is an idiot when they are an idiot isn't a personal attack, it's a statement of fact.

I agree with what this idiot is saying.

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Re: Why are the countries on the FET map so distorted?
« Reply #191 on: April 22, 2010, 01:50:18 PM »
Wilmore, I gave you your example of distorted on the FE map.


[Wilmore]But how do we know that the FE map is the one that's distorted and not the RE one?[/Wilmore]


BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN AROUND IT /slap

Re: Why are the countries on the FET map so distorted?
« Reply #192 on: April 23, 2010, 08:45:31 AM »
On this forum, you can't just make a claim and expect everyone to take your word for it.

Do you have any evidence to support this outlandish claim?