Ask a Christian anything.

Quote from: Canadark on April 05, 2010, 01:36:37 PM

Quote from: Its a Sphere on April 05, 2010, 11:14:29 AM

Quote from: Canadark on April 05, 2010, 10:11:23 AM

Quote from: Sadistic on April 03, 2010, 12:10:04 PM

-What if someone who commits mass genocide was genuinely sorry for their actions. For example, if a Nazi was brainwashed into killing Jews because he genuinely thought he was helping society, only to realize afterwords his actions were disgusting and to totally regrets his doings. He would have committed habitual sin because he was taught it was goodness, would he not have the holy spirit?

That is not what the Holy Spirit does. If you told a Christian that committing acts of genocide was good, the fact that he has the Holy Spirit in him means that he would never be able to agree with you. Remember, we consider the Holy Spirit to be a real, active, and unbeatable force behind out decision making process.

Quote from: Sadistic on April 03, 2010, 12:10:04 PM

-Many mass murderers commit their crimes because they think what they are doing is good, why does the holy spirit choose not to inhabit their body, but rather yours? Those recent militia men for example, thought what they were doing was for the betterment of society, but Christians want to distance themselves from them because their actions are seen as disgusting by the rest of society. Does the holy spirit base its qualifications off of what society feels is appropriate morality?

Absolutely not. The Holy Spirit resides in any person who requests it, therefore because those militants clearly failed to show the signs of a spirit-filled life, it can be concluded that they never surrendered themselves to the Holy Spirit in the first place.

Like when the popes ordered kings, knights and other warriors of the church (after being promised an indulgence) to go kill the non-believers in the series of crusades?

Precisely.

So the highest official in the Catholic church can attain that position without surrendering themselves to the holy spirit?  That doesn't seem very inspiring to the masses.

I guess all the paedo priests don't have the Holy Spirit then.

Do you think Jesus would approve of the war in Iraq?

So what if someone brainwashes you into thinking that God IS telling you to kill people?

Quote from: Areweonfiya on April 05, 2010, 05:56:06 PM

Do you think Jesus would approve of the war in Iraq?

I don't think that Jesus would have approved of the war in Iraq.

Quote from: Canadark on April 05, 2010, 06:48:20 PM

Quote from: Areweonfiya on April 05, 2010, 05:56:06 PM

Do you think Jesus would approve of the war in Iraq?

I don't think that Jesus would have approved of the war in Iraq.

I think your wrong. But I'll leave it there. (So don't ask me to explain.)

Quote from: Canadark on April 05, 2010, 06:48:20 PM

Quote from: Areweonfiya on April 05, 2010, 05:56:06 PM

Do you think Jesus would approve of the war in Iraq?

I don't think that Jesus would have approved of the war in Iraq.

I think your wrong. But I'll leave it there. (So don't ask me to explain.)

It is a travesty how much damage the Roman Catholic Church has done to the communication of the gospel. When the church in an area becomes institutionalized it is a slippery slope to perceived infallibility and totalitarianism

Quote from: Canadark on April 05, 2010, 06:48:20 PM

It is a travesty how much damage the Roman Catholic Church has done to the communication of the gospel. When the church in an area becomes institutionalized it is a slippery slope to perceived infallibility and totalitarianism

Lets say you were the founder of a company and the official selected to be in charge was marketing your brand to the public by forcing the product down the their throats and then empowering sales reps to engage in the wholesale slaughter of those that chose to purchase a competing product or block the expansion of one of your stores.  Wouldn't you step in and send some sort of clear and evident message that this was inappropriate and unacceptable and not let it repeatedly happen over hundreds of years?

In the least wouldn't you, if you had the power, have the child molesters confess in front of their congregation immediately prior to bursting into flames as a way to indicate a disapproval of such actions?

Quote from: Sadistic on April 05, 2010, 02:48:41 PM

So what if someone brainwashes you into thinking that God IS telling you to kill people?

Please?

Quote from: Sadistic on April 05, 2010, 06:58:37 PM

Quote from: Sadistic on April 05, 2010, 02:48:41 PM

So what if someone brainwashes you into thinking that God IS telling you to kill people?

Here's a question. If Adam and Even where the first humans, then who did their children mate with?

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Here's a question. If Adam and Even where the first humans, then who did their children mate with?

Please?

Quote from: Sadistic on April 05, 2010, 06:58:37 PM

Quote from: Sadistic on April 05, 2010, 02:48:41 PM

So what if someone brainwashes you into thinking that God IS telling you to kill people?

Quote from: Mykael on March 15, 2010, 10:50:54 AM

I took all 16 pages of this thread and put it through Wordle. It created a word cloud based on which words were mentioned most often:

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This is proprietary software, and should be avoided.

God shows us frequently through the Bible that he prefers to intervene through his disciples.

Habitual sinners who hold positions of leadership in the church quite often fall, and they fall hard when their sins get exposed.

I am not sure why God chooses not to kill them on the spot any more, as he did to Ananias and Sapphira. Maybe it has something to do with grace and the fact that it was more important to set an example to the church early on, as even the most hardened criminals can still repent of their sins and receive salvation.

Quote from: Parsifal on April 07, 2010, 07:47:26 PM

Quote from: Mykael on March 15, 2010, 10:50:54 AM

I took all 16 pages of this thread and put it through Wordle. It created a word cloud based on which words were mentioned most often:

From Wordle's terms of use:

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This is proprietary software, and should be avoided.

This is why you're not a mod anymore. Stop it.

Quote from: Fortuna on April 07, 2010, 10:49:13 PM

Quote from: Parsifal on April 07, 2010, 07:47:26 PM

Quote from: Mykael on March 15, 2010, 10:50:54 AM

I took all 16 pages of this thread and put it through Wordle. It created a word cloud based on which words were mentioned most often:

From Wordle's terms of use:

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You may not copy or redistribute the Wordle applet itself under any circumstances.  Certain parts of Wordle are ? IBM Corporation, and all rights are reserved. You may not decompile or reverse-engineer the applet and then make a derivative work based on your knowledge of that code. You may not use the applet on your own web site or, as a library, in your own work.

This is proprietary software, and should be avoided.

This is why you're not a mod anymore. Stop it.

Agreed, it's just fecking annoying now, we get the picture. It just so happens that nobody else gives a spit. Just put the message in your sig and stfu.

How do you know if they're lying or not? Your faith is based entirely around testimony from humans.

Quote from: Fortuna on April 07, 2010, 10:20:44 PM

How do you know if they're lying or not? Your faith is based entirely around testimony from humans.

I think you can gauge the honesty of an individual by how they follow up on their claims. Of the twelve disciples of Christ (after Judas was replaced by Matthias), 11 were martyred and 1 was exiled to Patmos. They were either very stupid, insane, or followers of the one true God.

How does God choose to distribute the Holy Spirit? Why does he favor some over others, in some cases the immoral ones over the moral ones (Because someone who acts against Christian teachings would be acting immoral, but may still get into heaven, but someone killing because they genuinely think they are doing God's work would be moral, yet not get into heaven due to habitual sin)?

They were very stupid

Quote from: Canadark on April 10, 2010, 07:30:47 AM

Quote from: Fortuna on April 07, 2010, 10:20:44 PM

How do you know if they're lying or not? Your faith is based entirely around testimony from humans.

I think you can gauge the honesty of an individual by how they follow up on their claims. Of the twelve disciples of Christ (after Judas was replaced by Matthias), 11 were martyred and 1 was exiled to Patmos. They were either very stupid, insane, or followers of the one true God.

What about the followers of other religions who martyr themselves?

I don't think there is any other religion that has ever endured martyrdom on the scale of Christianity

Quote from: Chris Spaghetti on April 10, 2010, 07:36:51 AM

Quote from: Canadark on April 10, 2010, 07:30:47 AM

Quote from: Fortuna on April 07, 2010, 10:20:44 PM

How do you know if they're lying or not? Your faith is based entirely around testimony from humans.

I think you can gauge the honesty of an individual by how they follow up on their claims. Of the twelve disciples of Christ (after Judas was replaced by Matthias), 11 were martyred and 1 was exiled to Patmos. They were either very stupid, insane, or followers of the one true God.

What about the followers of other religions who martyr themselves?

They were either very stupid, insane, or followers of the one true God.

That being said I don't think there is any other religion that has ever endured martyrdom on the scale of Christianity, and while this in itself does not prove that the Christian God is real, it does strengthen the testimony of the saints.

Quote from: Canadark on April 10, 2010, 07:30:47 AM

They were very stupid

Ooh, ooh, that one! Given that the educated people (scribes, pharisees) refused to follow the crazy jobless hippie and some illiterate fishermen with nothing to lose anyway did. Also, how did 33BCE Arabian fishermen learn to write? Very few people could at the time, particularly in that area.

Quote from: Canadark on April 10, 2010, 07:39:52 AM

Quote from: Chris Spaghetti on April 10, 2010, 07:36:51 AM

Quote from: Canadark on April 10, 2010, 07:30:47 AM

Quote from: Fortuna on April 07, 2010, 10:20:44 PM

How do you know if they're lying or not? Your faith is based entirely around testimony from humans.

I think you can gauge the honesty of an individual by how they follow up on their claims. Of the twelve disciples of Christ (after Judas was replaced by Matthias), 11 were martyred and 1 was exiled to Patmos. They were either very stupid, insane, or followers of the one true God.

What about the followers of other religions who martyr themselves?

They were either very stupid, insane, or followers of the one true God.

That being said I don't think there is any other religion that has ever endured martyrdom on the scale of Christianity, and while this in itself does not prove that the Christian God is real, it does strengthen the testimony of the saints.

Quote from: Sadistic on April 07, 2010, 10:24:35 PM

How does God choose to distribute the Holy Spirit? Why does he favor some over others, in some cases the immoral ones over the moral ones (Because someone who acts against Christian teachings would be acting immoral, but may still get into heaven, but someone killing because they genuinely think they are doing God's work would be moral, yet not get into heaven due to habitual sin)?

Grace is unconditional. Those who truly accept Christ receive the Holy Spirit. Immoral Christians are not Christians, no matter what they claim or may think in their own minds.