Boosting the ISS

Please stop posting your space fiction.

Please stop posting your space fiction.

Very cool video demonstrating the effects of using the Space Shuttle to boost the ISS back in to it's proper orbit.

#t=1m51s

As usual, much longer than the longest "Vomit Comet" footage.  No special effects here, just good old physics.

Please stop posting your space fiction.

Please stop posting your space fiction.

Please stop posting your space fiction.

Notice the closed set for filming, and all the fancy tricked out cameras

It's pretty cool what they can do with magnets.  But the blue screen effect is somewhat 1990's, no?   Notice the closed set for filming, and all the fancy tricked out cameras, a total inside joke. 

Because there is no way to explain it.

Quote from: Sir Mildred Pierce on March 05, 2010, 05:00:39 AM

Because there is no way to explain it.

Your words, not mine.  I suggested magnets.  Maybe we weren't watching the same video? 

Quote from: ItsFlatJack on March 05, 2010, 07:57:50 AM

Quote from: Sir Mildred Pierce on March 05, 2010, 05:00:39 AM

Because there is no way to explain it.

Your words, not mine.  I suggested magnets.  Maybe we weren't watching the same video? 

There is no way to explain it WITHIN THE FLAT EARTH HYPOTHESIS.

Magnets?  Uh okay, show me something even close to that that uses magnets.  Maybe we were watching different videos.  The one I saw showed 2 1/2 minutes of a very large tricked out camera seemingly floating in mid-air AND a person doing the same thing.  I've never seen a trick like that done on earth using magnets.

The only way to explain this is the reasonable explanation given to us, and that is they are in orbit.  When the station begins to accelerate, everything that is not tied down begins to move in the same direction.  That's not even something you could do in an aeroplane flying parabolas (That the footage is so long *and* so stable disproves that explanation anyways).

Come up with whatever explanation you want, but you have to back it up with evidence.  You might as well suggest they used magic faerie dust.

But the blue screen effect is somewhat 1990's, no?

Quote from: Sir Mildred Pierce on March 05, 2010, 10:05:34 AM

Quote from: ItsFlatJack on March 05, 2010, 07:57:50 AM

Quote from: Sir Mildred Pierce on March 05, 2010, 05:00:39 AM

Because there is no way to explain it.

Your words, not mine.  I suggested magnets.  Maybe we weren't watching the same video? 

There is no way to explain it WITHIN THE FLAT EARTH HYPOTHESIS.

Magnets?  Uh okay, show me something even close to that that uses magnets.  Maybe we were watching different videos.  The one I saw showed 2 1/2 minutes of a very large tricked out camera seemingly floating in mid-air AND a person doing the same thing.  I've never seen a trick like that done on earth using magnets.

The only way to explain this is the reasonable explanation given to us, and that is they are in orbit.  When the station begins to accelerate, everything that is not tied down begins to move in the same direction.  That's not even something you could do in an aeroplane flying parabolas (That the footage is so long *and* so stable disproves that explanation anyways).

Come up with whatever explanation you want, but you have to back it up with evidence.  You might as well suggest they used magic faerie dust.

There are many many ways to do this.  There is the vomit comet parabolic flight airplane (because NASA makes the best airplanes) that could easily fit the room he was in.

Quote from: ItsFlatJack on March 04, 2010, 11:38:46 PM

But the blue screen effect is somewhat 1990's, no?

Chroma-keying out reflections in a realistic way costs as much as what the nasa gets each year. So this was the nasa's trick this year...What about the rest of the footages? They must be real, otherwise the conspiracy would be losing money.

Oh and I forgot to mention that bluescreens are mostly replaced by greenscreens these days (we're in the year 2010, in case you didn't know). Bluescreen is a term used for computererrors inflicting hardware.

Quote from: ItsFlatJack on March 05, 2010, 10:20:10 AM

Quote from: Sir Mildred Pierce on March 05, 2010, 10:05:34 AM

Quote from: ItsFlatJack on March 05, 2010, 07:57:50 AM

Quote from: Sir Mildred Pierce on March 05, 2010, 05:00:39 AM

Because there is no way to explain it.

Your words, not mine.  I suggested magnets.  Maybe we weren't watching the same video? 

There is no way to explain it WITHIN THE FLAT EARTH HYPOTHESIS.

Magnets?  Uh okay, show me something even close to that that uses magnets.  Maybe we were watching different videos.  The one I saw showed 2 1/2 minutes of a very large tricked out camera seemingly floating in mid-air AND a person doing the same thing.  I've never seen a trick like that done on earth using magnets.

The only way to explain this is the reasonable explanation given to us, and that is they are in orbit.  When the station begins to accelerate, everything that is not tied down begins to move in the same direction.  That's not even something you could do in an aeroplane flying parabolas (That the footage is so long *and* so stable disproves that explanation anyways).

Come up with whatever explanation you want, but you have to back it up with evidence.  You might as well suggest they used magic faerie dust.

There are many many ways to do this.  There is the vomit comet parabolic flight airplane (because NASA makes the best airplanes) that could easily fit the room he was in.

You're right, gosh why didn't I think of that, I really should have addressed that.  OH WAIT I DID.  Seriously, did you even read what I wrote?

Find me Vomit Comet footage that is:
1. As long as the footage we see from this ISS video.
2. is as stable as the footage we see from this ISS video.
3. accelerates in the middle of the footage without falling out of the parabolic arc.

Sorry, the Vomit Comet simply can't fly in parabolic arcs for even half that long before it has to pull up (at which point the "gravity" goes from 0 G to 2 G and everything that isn't tied down hits the floor hard), nor can the Vomit Comet fly in such a perfect parabolic arc that the footage is so stable, especially when it has to accelerate in the middle of the manouvre to simulate the effect of accelerating in orbit.

Try a little harder next time, you're back to square one and stuck with faerie dust as the only reasonable explanation (other than the real answer: They are in orbit)

Hey at least you aren't dismissing it as CGI and citing a terrible movie like Space Cowboys as the ultimate example of faked zero g footage.

Quote from: Sir Mildred Pierce on March 05, 2010, 10:34:05 AM

Quote from: ItsFlatJack on March 05, 2010, 10:20:10 AM

Quote from: Sir Mildred Pierce on March 05, 2010, 10:05:34 AM

Quote from: ItsFlatJack on March 05, 2010, 07:57:50 AM

Quote from: Sir Mildred Pierce on March 05, 2010, 05:00:39 AM

Because there is no way to explain it.

Your words, not mine.  I suggested magnets.  Maybe we weren't watching the same video? 

There is no way to explain it WITHIN THE FLAT EARTH HYPOTHESIS.

Magnets?  Uh okay, show me something even close to that that uses magnets.  Maybe we were watching different videos.  The one I saw showed 2 1/2 minutes of a very large tricked out camera seemingly floating in mid-air AND a person doing the same thing.  I've never seen a trick like that done on earth using magnets.

The only way to explain this is the reasonable explanation given to us, and that is they are in orbit.  When the station begins to accelerate, everything that is not tied down begins to move in the same direction.  That's not even something you could do in an aeroplane flying parabolas (That the footage is so long *and* so stable disproves that explanation anyways).

Come up with whatever explanation you want, but you have to back it up with evidence.  You might as well suggest they used magic faerie dust.

There are many many ways to do this.  There is the vomit comet parabolic flight airplane (because NASA makes the best airplanes) that could easily fit the room he was in.

You're right, gosh why didn't I think of that, I really should have addressed that.  OH WAIT I DID.  Seriously, did you even read what I wrote?

Find me Vomit Comet footage that is:
1. As long as the footage we see from this ISS video.
2. is as stable as the footage we see from this ISS video.
3. accelerates in the middle of the footage without falling out of the parabolic arc.

Sorry, the Vomit Comet simply can't fly in parabolic arcs for even half that long before it has to pull up (at which point the "gravity" goes from 0 G to 2 G and everything that isn't tied down hits the floor hard), nor can the Vomit Comet fly in such a perfect parabolic arc that the footage is so stable, especially when it has to accelerate in the middle of the manouvre to simulate the effect of accelerating in orbit.

Try a little harder next time, you're back to square one and stuck with faerie dust as the only reasonable explanation (other than the real answer: They are in orbit)

Hey at least you aren't dismissing it as CGI and citing a terrible movie like Space Cowboys as the ultimate example of faked zero g footage.

I did read it but I forgot.    And then I remembered this animal experimentation!

 

As to something that comes close to that using magnets:
http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.ACCT88394/it.A/id.951/.f?sc=2&category=47

Quote from: Sir Mildred Pierce on March 05, 2010, 10:34:05 AM

Quote from: ItsFlatJack on March 05, 2010, 10:20:10 AM

Quote from: Sir Mildred Pierce on March 05, 2010, 10:05:34 AM

Quote from: ItsFlatJack on March 05, 2010, 07:57:50 AM

Quote from: Sir Mildred Pierce on March 05, 2010, 05:00:39 AM

Because there is no way to explain it.

Your words, not mine.  I suggested magnets.  Maybe we weren't watching the same video? 

There is no way to explain it WITHIN THE FLAT EARTH HYPOTHESIS.

Magnets?  Uh okay, show me something even close to that that uses magnets.  Maybe we were watching different videos.  The one I saw showed 2 1/2 minutes of a very large tricked out camera seemingly floating in mid-air AND a person doing the same thing.  I've never seen a trick like that done on earth using magnets.

The only way to explain this is the reasonable explanation given to us, and that is they are in orbit.  When the station begins to accelerate, everything that is not tied down begins to move in the same direction.  That's not even something you could do in an aeroplane flying parabolas (That the footage is so long *and* so stable disproves that explanation anyways).

Come up with whatever explanation you want, but you have to back it up with evidence.  You might as well suggest they used magic faerie dust.

There are many many ways to do this.  There is the vomit comet parabolic flight airplane (because NASA makes the best airplanes) that could easily fit the room he was in.

You're right, gosh why didn't I think of that, I really should have addressed that.  OH WAIT I DID.  Seriously, did you even read what I wrote?

Find me Vomit Comet footage that is:
1. As long as the footage we see from this ISS video.
2. is as stable as the footage we see from this ISS video.
3. accelerates in the middle of the footage without falling out of the parabolic arc.

Sorry, the Vomit Comet simply can't fly in parabolic arcs for even half that long before it has to pull up (at which point the "gravity" goes from 0 G to 2 G and everything that isn't tied down hits the floor hard), nor can the Vomit Comet fly in such a perfect parabolic arc that the footage is so stable, especially when it has to accelerate in the middle of the manouvre to simulate the effect of accelerating in orbit.

Try a little harder next time, you're back to square one and stuck with faerie dust as the only reasonable explanation (other than the real answer: They are in orbit)

Hey at least you aren't dismissing it as CGI and citing a terrible movie like Space Cowboys as the ultimate example of faked zero g footage.

I did read it but I forgot.    And then I remembered this animal experimentation!

 

As to something that comes close to that using magnets:
http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.ACCT88394/it.A/id.951/.f?sc=2&category=47

Quote from: ItsFlatJack on March 05, 2010, 12:43:26 PM

Quote from: Sir Mildred Pierce on March 05, 2010, 10:34:05 AM

Quote from: ItsFlatJack on March 05, 2010, 10:20:10 AM

Quote from: Sir Mildred Pierce on March 05, 2010, 10:05:34 AM

Quote from: ItsFlatJack on March 05, 2010, 07:57:50 AM

Quote from: Sir Mildred Pierce on March 05, 2010, 05:00:39 AM

Because there is no way to explain it.

Your words, not mine.  I suggested magnets.  Maybe we weren't watching the same video? 

There is no way to explain it WITHIN THE FLAT EARTH HYPOTHESIS.

Magnets?  Uh okay, show me something even close to that that uses magnets.  Maybe we were watching different videos.  The one I saw showed 2 1/2 minutes of a very large tricked out camera seemingly floating in mid-air AND a person doing the same thing.  I've never seen a trick like that done on earth using magnets.

The only way to explain this is the reasonable explanation given to us, and that is they are in orbit.  When the station begins to accelerate, everything that is not tied down begins to move in the same direction.  That's not even something you could do in an aeroplane flying parabolas (That the footage is so long *and* so stable disproves that explanation anyways).

Come up with whatever explanation you want, but you have to back it up with evidence.  You might as well suggest they used magic faerie dust.

There are many many ways to do this.  There is the vomit comet parabolic flight airplane (because NASA makes the best airplanes) that could easily fit the room he was in.

You're right, gosh why didn't I think of that, I really should have addressed that.  OH WAIT I DID.  Seriously, did you even read what I wrote?

Find me Vomit Comet footage that is:
1. As long as the footage we see from this ISS video.
2. is as stable as the footage we see from this ISS video.
3. accelerates in the middle of the footage without falling out of the parabolic arc.

Sorry, the Vomit Comet simply can't fly in parabolic arcs for even half that long before it has to pull up (at which point the "gravity" goes from 0 G to 2 G and everything that isn't tied down hits the floor hard), nor can the Vomit Comet fly in such a perfect parabolic arc that the footage is so stable, especially when it has to accelerate in the middle of the manouvre to simulate the effect of accelerating in orbit.

Try a little harder next time, you're back to square one and stuck with faerie dust as the only reasonable explanation (other than the real answer: They are in orbit)

Hey at least you aren't dismissing it as CGI and citing a terrible movie like Space Cowboys as the ultimate example of faked zero g footage.

I did read it but I forgot.    And then I remembered this animal experimentation!

 

As to something that comes close to that using magnets:
http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.ACCT88394/it.A/id.951/.f?sc=2&category=47

So basically you got nothin'..

A 20 second video showing just how short a ride on the Vomit Comet, not to mention how unstable the ride is, nothing can keep still for very long.  Thank you so much for providing me the evidence to make my case.  And a magnet that can levitate 4 ounces?  Wow, that's like one step away from levitating a 180 pound man that isn't made out of a material which would react to magnets.

Again, thanks for making my case.

Please stop posting your space fiction.

Not so fast Sir Pierce!  A levitating frog is check and mate, I believe!


Another win for FE!

Quote from: ItsFlatJack on March 05, 2010, 01:01:53 PM

Not so fast Sir Pierce!  A levitating frog is check and mate, I believe!


Another win for FE!

heheheh okay I get it now... yeah you had me going there for a while...!

is there anyone on this board that actually believes in the Flat Earth?

Quote from: Sir Mildred Pierce on March 05, 2010, 03:41:01 PM

Quote from: ItsFlatJack on March 05, 2010, 01:01:53 PM

Not so fast Sir Pierce!  A levitating frog is check and mate, I believe!


Another win for FE!

heheheh okay I get it now... yeah you had me going there for a while...!

is there anyone on this board that actually believes in the Flat Earth?

Thought the same thing yesterday. Are we being fooled? Seriously, I smell a big big big joke. Does anyone believe in FE?