Space research

Hello all,


so astronauts go into space with some Macbook Pro's to photoshop a new wave of round earth pictures? Or am I not getting it? But seriously the reflection of the sun AND the horizon combined in the next picture makes me actually think the earth is round, but I'm not sure. I might have some kind of medical problem with my eyes...

http://researchpark.arc.nasa.gov/lecture%20series/images/Earth.jpg

Please provide replies with facts, evidence, proof, expirements with results and don't dare to delete this thread.


Thank you. Above all: happy discussing to all.

Rein

The point is that they don't go to space at all and all the images are faked on the ground.

So rockets and spaceshuttles are built to look at, astronauts landing on the earth after half a year in space fake being pushed to the ground due to gravity, videos of people in space being weightless are recorded in a 'special' room and so on and so on?

Sorry for possible spelling mistakes, English is not my mother language.


Looking forward to more replies.

So rockets and spaceshuttles are built to look at, astronauts landing on the earth after half a year in space fake being pushed to the ground due to gravity, videos of people in space being weightless are recorded in a 'special' room and so on and so on?

If you believe in a flat earth, then yes.

So rockets and spaceshuttles are built to look at, astronauts landing on the earth after half a year in space fake being pushed to the ground due to gravity, videos of people in space being weightless are recorded in a 'special' room and so on and so on?

Yes.  The Conspiracy is very greedy, and "space exploration" has proven to be a cash cow for them.

Could anyone then please tell me why they made up the conspiracy? Is there any reason why governments want us to believe the earth is flat?

The governments of the world are not in on The Conspiracy. Rather, The Conspiracy is an elite group who dupe the world and its governments, probably for financial gain.

The governments of the world are not in on The Conspiracy. Rather, The Conspiracy is an elite group who dupe the world and its governments, probably for financial gain.

How could more money be made with a round earth that's in fact a flat earth...?

Thanks for the replies.

Quote from: Lord Wilmore on March 01, 2010, 04:57:09 PM

The governments of the world are not in on The Conspiracy. Rather, The Conspiracy is an elite group who dupe the world and its governments, probably for financial gain.

How could more money be made with a round earth that's in fact a flat earth...?

It stands to reason that if you do it properly it's easier to fake a space program than to actually have one.

Yes, I agree. But however, why have a fake space program? Why lie to the whole world? Just because a real space program is more expensive?

Yes, I agree. But however, why have a fake space program? Why lie to the whole world? Just because a real space program is more expensive?

If you're going to con someone for money you have to start by lying about something.  This is just the Conspiracy's particular racket.

Yes, I agree. But however, why have a fake space program? Why lie to the whole world? Just because a real space program is more expensive?

First off, a real space program cannot exist on a flat earth. Space travel is not possible. Second off, in order to make exuberant amounts of money you must take great risks. Much like the white collar crimes that happen on wall-street. This is just larger scale.

So the NASA build rockets that can fly 3 km, leave them somewhere in the air for a while and then bring them back after a year or so with some fake pictures of the earth while they are having a secret agreement with a whole lot of people to shut up about the earth being flat? That doesn't sound cheap to me. Exploring space and discovering the earth is round is actually a lot cheaper.

Why would they build rockets that can fly off, just for the purpose of scamming the world? Why couldn't they come up with a story about a big universe above the FLAT earth? Please, tell me why. These fake photos of the round earth would cost the conspiricy more money, right? Why would they spend money on covering lies that weren't even necessairy in the first place? People would have believed it with the FLAT earth story, I repeat:
- It would be cheaper.
- They would be pulling off a smaller lie.

The governments of the world are not in on The Conspiracy. Rather, The Conspiracy is an elite group who dupe the world and its governments, probably for financial gain.

What about Senators, like Bill Nelson (D-FL) who have been to space? Are they in on the conspiracy?

The point is that they don't go to space at all and all the images are faked on the ground.

I still don't understand how they get such extreme muscular dystrophy in such a short period of time.

Quote from: Rein on March 01, 2010, 04:24:28 PM

So rockets and spaceshuttles are built to look at, astronauts landing on the earth after half a year in space fake being pushed to the ground due to gravity, videos of people in space being weightless are recorded in a 'special' room and so on and so on?

Yes.  The Conspiracy is very greedy, and "space exploration" has proven to be a cash cow for them.

Only not as much of a cash cow as you'd think because they have to bribe Sirius/XM employees, everyone who maintains the GPS system, meteorologists, Satellite TV companies, and satellite phone companies to pretend to use "satellites".  They also have to bribe every airline pilot to organize the length of their flights in a way that makes Earth look round.  They have to do all of this in a way such that not one of the many people involved betrays them and tells the truth, which would certainly earn him fame, fortune, and prestige.

So the NASA build rockets that can fly 3 km, leave them somewhere in the air for a while and then bring them back after a year or so with some fake pictures of the earth while they are having a secret agreement with a whole lot of people to shut up about the earth being flat? That doesn't sound cheap to me. Exploring space and discovering the earth is round is actually a lot cheaper.

Why would they build rockets that can fly off, just for the purpose of scamming the world? Why couldn't they come up with a story about a big universe above the FLAT earth? Please, tell me why. These fake photos of the round earth would cost the conspiricy more money, right? Why would they spend money on covering lies that weren't even necessairy in the first place? People would have believed it with the FLAT earth story, I repeat:
- It would be cheaper.
- They would be pulling off a smaller lie.

With that post, you just destroyed what little credibility their conspiracy theory had.  Commends.

Yes.  The Conspiracy is very greedy, and "space exploration" has proven to be a cash cow for them.

The governments of the world are not in on The Conspiracy. Rather, The Conspiracy is an elite group who dupe the world and its governments, probably for financial gain.

Oh please. Your attempts to justify or simplify the scale of the conspiracy do nothing to address the reality that you have zero tangible proof that any conspiracy even exists. Why bother even posting when the only argument you have against photographs, astronaut testimonies, and countless other pieces of evidence is that they are part of an unsubstantiated, unproven plot that an elite group of oligarchs are misleading us in order to get rich.

This isn't scientific discourse, it's idiotic dribble.

...an elite group of oligarchs are misleading us in order to get rich.

Welcome to the real world.

No welcome to conspiracy 101. Or would you like to have a society without money or the ability to accumulate wealth.

So the NASA build rockets that can fly 3 km, leave them somewhere in the air for a while and then bring them back after a year or so with some fake pictures of the earth while they are having a secret agreement with a whole lot of people to shut up about the earth being flat? That doesn't sound cheap to me. Exploring space and discovering the earth is round is actually a lot cheaper.

Why would they build rockets that can fly off, just for the purpose of scamming the world? Why couldn't they come up with a story about a big universe above the FLAT earth? Please, tell me why. These fake photos of the round earth would cost the conspiricy more money, right? Why would they spend money on covering lies that weren't even necessairy in the first place? People would have believed it with the FLAT earth story, I repeat:
- It would be cheaper.
- They would be pulling off a smaller lie.

What don't you get? The cost is irrelevant. Lets say NASA gets 30 billion in funding a year.  Even if the conspiracy costs 18 billion dollars to upkeep, they still get to keep 12 billion. That seems like a big payout to me.

Only not as much of a cash cow as you'd think because they have to bribe Sirius/XM employees, everyone who maintains the GPS system, meteorologists, Satellite TV companies, and satellite phone companies to pretend to use "satellites".  They also have to bribe every airline pilot to organize the length of their flights in a way that makes Earth look round.  They have to do all of this in a way such that not one of the many people involved betrays them and tells the truth, which would certainly earn him fame, fortune, and prestige.

If did some lurking in the forums, you'd find all your posts are addressed and are debated on. Stop thinking that you are something special.

With that post, you just destroyed what little credibility their conspiracy theory had.  Commends.

lol.

How is the elite group of oligarchs fooling hundreds of thousands of engineers and technicians into building equipment that doesn't work the way it is supposed to? Sneaky bureaucrats are not engineering savants, capable of producing subtle technical designs that can fool us all into thinking we are building a real rocket.

Quote from: Canadark on March 01, 2010, 08:28:31 PM

...an elite group of oligarchs are misleading us in order to get rich.

Welcome to the real world.

Put up or shut up. You have no evidence.

Quote from: Rein on March 01, 2010, 06:52:43 PM

So the NASA build rockets that can fly 3 km, leave them somewhere in the air for a while and then bring them back after a year or so with some fake pictures of the earth while they are having a secret agreement with a whole lot of people to shut up about the earth being flat? That doesn't sound cheap to me. Exploring space and discovering the earth is round is actually a lot cheaper.

Why would they build rockets that can fly off, just for the purpose of scamming the world? Why couldn't they come up with a story about a big universe above the FLAT earth? Please, tell me why. These fake photos of the round earth would cost the conspiricy more money, right? Why would they spend money on covering lies that weren't even necessairy in the first place? People would have believed it with the FLAT earth story, I repeat:
- It would be cheaper.
- They would be pulling off a smaller lie.

What don't you get? The cost is irrelevant. Lets say NASA gets 30 billion in funding a year.  Even if the conspiracy costs 18 billion dollars to upkeep, they still get to keep 12 billion. That seems like a big payout to me.

How do you mean, the cost is irrelevant? The conspiracy is there to make money, right? Then why do it "the expensive and unbelievable way" when they also could do it "the cheap and believable way"?

Oh wait...maybe because a round earth is more believable then a flat earth...Even while being on a flat earth...

Quote from: Roundy the Truthinessist on March 01, 2010, 08:30:09 PM

Quote from: Canadark on March 01, 2010, 08:28:31 PM

...an elite group of oligarchs are misleading us in order to get rich.

Welcome to the real world.

Put up or shut up. You have no evidence.

In my mind, whenever I see RE or FE, I say in my head either "Real earth" or "Fake earth".

I still would like to receive an answer from a FE'er to my last question.

Nobody is going to pay them to run a space program if spaceflight is impossible.

Then why don't they just lie about the fact that spaceflight is impossible?

Then why don't they just lie about the fact that spaceflight is impossible?

i forget, but i think they said the reason was that they didnt know what the shape of the planet was when they started the conspiracy, so they just said what the popular opinion was.

I still don't see any evidence for the conspiracy other than it's requirment for a FE. Also i have seen none for a flat earth