The official FES IRC (chat) channel.

I don't think FES should officially endorse any channel that has lower forum trolls as channel operators.

He sent me a PM asking about it, and I said yes. There really wasn't anything more to it.

I just pinned it because he asked, and having a 'main' IRC seemed like a fairly straightforward idea (silly me). I don't really do IRCs, and had no clue about whatever 'politics' were going on in the old one.


The way I see it, a 'main' IRC is a good idea. As for which one it is or who runs, I don't really care. You guys work it out between yourselves - be creative about it, have a fully fledged election topic/campaign or a game of hangman or something. I'll happily pin the winner's IRC =)

Quote from: Lord Wilmore on February 25, 2010, 05:38:54 PM

I just pinned it because he asked, and having a 'main' IRC seemed like a fairly straightforward idea (silly me). I don't really do IRCs, and had no clue about whatever 'politics' were going on in the old one.


The way I see it, a 'main' IRC is a good idea. As for which one it is or who runs, I don't really care. You guys work it out between yourselves - be creative about it, have a fully fledged election topic/campaign or a game of hangman or something. I'll happily pin the winner's IRC =)

I agree about the "main" IRC idea, but I also think that the one which was created first (at the request of members, no less) should have de facto "official" status. Johannes's was created as an offshoot from the main one when he was banned, which is why nobody took it seriously, and the same would apply to Franklin's if it weren't being endorsed by FES.

Yours wasn't created first

Guys, seriously, have a vote and settle it. Create a topic and agree to abide by the results. I promise to abide by whatever decision the members make, but failing that, Franklin's will remain pinned simply because he asked me, and I agreed.

Quote from: Lord Wilmore on February 25, 2010, 05:59:52 PM

Guys, seriously, have a vote and settle it. Create a topic and agree to abide by the results. I promise to abide by whatever decision the members make, but failing that, Franklin's will remain pinned simply because he asked me, and I agreed.

I offered Parsifal a compromise and he rejected it. We "discussed" it, and he was too stubborn to allow for any type of compromise.

I offered Parsifal a compromise and he rejected it. We "discussed" it, and he was too stubborn to allow for any type of compromise.

Why should there be any sort of compromise from Parsifal's side? You're the one who caused all this, so naturally you're the one who should give in.

I don't see how your offer constitutes a compromise. You created a brand new spin-off IRC with different terms, and now you think it's a compromise for me to merge with yours.

Guys, seriously, have a vote and settle it. Create a topic and agree to abide by the results. I promise to abide by whatever decision the members make, but failing that, Franklin's will remain pinned simply because he asked me, and I agreed.

Where's Saddam when you need him?

The way I see it, Parsifal has had an unofficial irc channel for months. Then Franklin decides to make an official one, and he discusses it with Wilmore, a moderator, who gives the OK and thumbsup for the creation of an official channel. And this, Parsifal can't accept.

Let's imagine, for the sake of argument, that if the creator of an unofficial website about, let's say a band or a computer game, starts complaining because the people behind said band or game decides to make an official website. How wrong wouldn't that be? I think that's exactly what's happening here. Only here, it's about an official IRC channel for TFES, and an unofficial one.

Ahh nice, thats where it is.

Thanks franklin.

If this one fails,I'll host a permanent one on .net.

Quote from: Mugthulhu on February 26, 2010, 04:33:26 AM

The way I see it, Parsifal has had an unofficial irc channel for months. Then Franklin decides to make an official one, and he discusses it with Wilmore, a moderator, who gives the OK and thumbsup for the creation of an official channel. And this, Parsifal can't accept.

Let's imagine, for the sake of argument, that if the creator of an unofficial website about, let's say a band or a computer game, starts complaining because the people behind said band or game decides to make an official website. How wrong wouldn't that be? I think that's exactly what's happening here. Only here, it's about an official IRC channel for TFES, and an unofficial one.

Wilmore stated earlier in the thread that as far as he's concerned, all IRCs are unofficial. Furthermore, the only reason Franklin made this one is because he didn't like the way the other one was run (though what I did wrong, I still can't figure out, apart from him disagreeing with me about Saddam's ban). Since Wilmore had nothing to do with the creation of this channel, and it was created for dubious reasons, I don't think your analogy applies.

Quote from: John Davis on February 26, 2010, 06:14:04 AM

Ahh nice, thats where it is.

Thanks franklin.

If this one fails,I'll host a permanent one on .net.

Just FYI, the other one didn't fail. Franklin just decided to create a new one.

I have given this some consideration, and I will agree to the result of such a poll provided one of the channels wins by at least a two-thirds majority. If there is no two-thirds majority, then neither channel is official. Are we all in agreement?

ITT: Franklin loses ops, gets own official channel for FES, Parsifal bawws.

Where's Saddam when you need him?

Parsifal, grow a personality already you twit.

Quote from: Parsifal on February 26, 2010, 02:29:43 AM

I have given this some consideration, and I will agree to the result of such a poll provided one of the channels wins by at least a two-thirds majority. If there is no two-thirds majority, then neither channel is official. Are we all in agreement?

Nobody has yet responded to this. I consider a two-thirds majority to be a "fair and square" assessment of democratic preference. Anything less is subject to statistical error and is likely to create more drama. If we (myself, Franklin and Wilmore, in particular) are all in agreement on this matter, I will create a poll.