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« Reply #60 on: August 17, 2006, 06:28:47 PM »
Ha, but according to the bible, there is never any "intelligent" life (or even life for that matter) mentioned on any other planet. So if God ate half the universe, it really doesn't matter. Maybe He decided the night sky was too bright with that many stars.
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« Reply #61 on: August 17, 2006, 06:31:23 PM »
If these "spherical" planets were filled with wicked sinners that retaind notions of science, then yes, it really doesnt matter.

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« Reply #62 on: August 17, 2006, 06:35:26 PM »
The bible never says there aren't beings on other planets.
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« Reply #63 on: August 17, 2006, 06:39:06 PM »
however as laid down by his judgement of man in the book of revelations concerning the destruction of the stars and heavens it seems unlikely god would create inferior species that play no part in his designs for ourselves.

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« Reply #64 on: August 17, 2006, 06:41:50 PM »
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The bible never says there aren't beings on other planets.


But it never said there are.

Let's say you buy a new car. If the seller/information doesn't say that the car has seat-heaters, would you assume it does?
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« Reply #65 on: August 17, 2006, 07:15:13 PM »
How did this degenerate into another thread of religious musings?
I've got the hot tip - God's in on the conspiracy! He's been mis-informing you on the shape of the Earth since it was altered to include RE. :P

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« Reply #66 on: August 17, 2006, 07:16:46 PM »
Quote from: "ohayooooo"
Quote from: "Astantia"
The bible never says there aren't beings on other planets.


But it never said there are.

Let's say you buy a new car. If the seller/information doesn't say that the car has seat-heaters, would you assume it does?


The Bible is hardly designed to "Sell" the Universe, and let you in on it's features. Otherwise the "Authors" would have to hae advanced knowledge of everything and anything in the Universe....

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« Reply #67 on: August 17, 2006, 07:31:10 PM »
Which goes to the point that the bible may not be a holy book after all, and I really don't feel like being pelted with tomatoes for my "religious musings".
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« Reply #68 on: August 17, 2006, 08:08:49 PM »
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No.  I am saying God ate half the UNIVERSE.

And we all know that Infinity / 2 = Infinity.

Which is why we never noticed it was missing.


That means he ate half of the cake and in 0.00 Planck time it reappeared.

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« Reply #69 on: August 17, 2006, 08:09:38 PM »
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Or else the planes fly curved paths.  :twisted:


If they flew arced (curved) paths, they would crash into the ground or fly into space on transcontinental flights.

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« Reply #70 on: August 17, 2006, 08:12:16 PM »
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Or else the planes fly curved paths.  :twisted:


If they flew arced (curved) paths, they would crash into the ground or fly into space on transcontinental flights.


Yep, that's why I was joking.
the cake is a lie

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« Reply #71 on: August 17, 2006, 09:50:06 PM »
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You can't see the curvature of the ground, but the atmosphere is a different thing.


Putting aside this FE nonsense for a second, can you just explain this just as one curious person to another.  I've taken pretty long walks in basically any condition imagineable and I can't say I've ever noticed this. Can you find/take a pic?


Try looking at the sky. The clouds specifically.


What about them?


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« Reply #72 on: August 17, 2006, 09:58:27 PM »
Oh yes, these clouds?

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« Reply #73 on: August 17, 2006, 10:03:15 PM »
And these?

a terre est ronde.

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« Reply #74 on: August 17, 2006, 10:04:29 PM »
You have to look somewhat upwards rather than forwards, here's why:



And the effect is lost in 2D photographs, as a sphere is 3D, and the camera lense can't pick up on things like the eye can.

Just go out right now and see for yourself. By the way, you are looking at the atmosphere, not the clouds, the clouds only help you see the shape of the atmosphere.

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« Reply #75 on: August 17, 2006, 10:04:52 PM »
With the above three examples, I've come to the consensus that...

Dude, -.- clouds aren't a very good indication that the earth is round.
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Ubuntu

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« Reply #76 on: August 17, 2006, 10:22:54 PM »
Quote from: "ohayooooo"
With the above three examples, I've come to the consensus that...

Dude, -.- clouds aren't a very good indication that the earth is round.


How about... stop looking and photos and go outside.

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« Reply #77 on: August 17, 2006, 10:25:58 PM »
Mmm, but that would provide for a fruitless experiement seeing how there is nothing but blackness and streetlights outside my house. : )
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« Reply #78 on: August 17, 2006, 10:42:36 PM »
I went outside and had a look. Get this: The sky was blue! a consistent shade of blue! the clouds... look like clouds. Big fluffy white things. It looks like a big, blue-coloured sky wit white clouds. THis hasn't proved RE or FE.

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« Reply #79 on: August 17, 2006, 10:47:24 PM »
Hahaha, well, when people try hard enough, they can see diamonds in a pile of rocks. : )

So I guess it's all about perspective. To me, the sky looks flat and so does the ground.
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« Reply #80 on: August 18, 2006, 11:18:20 AM »
Quote from: "Ubuntu"
Quote from: "I hit a penguin"
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d) Conclude from your observations the Earth's shape: the sphere.


oh-oh

Why is this true now?

Also, we've gone over this. Something like this can't disprove FE, just add another component that needs an explanation.


and youll never explain the component.and well keep adding more components that you cant explain.we already have,take a look around the forums.


Thanks for voicing what I was thinking.  :wink:


Your welcome.I am the voice of the people!

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« Reply #81 on: August 18, 2006, 03:41:29 PM »
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I went outside and had a look. Get this: The sky was blue! a consistent shade of blue! the clouds... look like clouds. Big fluffy white things. It looks like a big, blue-coloured sky wit white clouds. THis hasn't proved RE or FE.


The funny thing is I keep going outside and the sky keeps seeming round. In fact I just saw a plane go by leaving a trail of exhaust (or chemtrails  :shock: ) in an arc with an angle consistent with the (round Earth model's) roundness of Earth.

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« Reply #82 on: August 18, 2006, 08:02:32 PM »
Quote from: "Ubuntu"
Quote from: "Rick_James"
I went outside and had a look. Get this: The sky was blue! a consistent shade of blue! the clouds... look like clouds. Big fluffy white things. It looks like a big, blue-coloured sky wit white clouds. THis hasn't proved RE or FE.


The funny thing is I keep going outside and the sky keeps seeming round. In fact I just saw a plane go by leaving a trail of exhaust (or chemtrails  :shock: ) in an arc with an angle consistent with the (round Earth model's) roundness of Earth.


I don't think you can draw conclusions about the shape of the Earth from looking at the sky. Seriously. I can't see it proving either side. But maybe I just don't know what I'm looking at :(

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« Reply #83 on: August 20, 2006, 02:14:17 PM »
Quote from: "Ubuntu"
You have to look somewhat upwards rather than forwards, here's why:



And the effect is lost in 2D photographs, as a sphere is 3D, and the camera lense can't pick up on things like the eye can.

Just go out right now and see for yourself. By the way, you are looking at the atmosphere, not the clouds, the clouds only help you see the shape of the atmosphere.


Still have no clue in the faintest about what you're talking about. You could try explaining a bit more about what you're observing, instead of being an angry and snotty ass about being proven wrong turn after turn, but that's your choice. Just admit you're wrong on this one and move on guy.


Here's a 'chemtrail' photo looking upwards. Maybe you can point out what I'm supposed to be seeing.


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« Reply #84 on: August 24, 2006, 04:25:17 PM »
lol ...consistant dome

thats a circle rite

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« Reply #85 on: August 24, 2006, 07:03:35 PM »
qwerty789:

a) go fuck yourself

b) that photo shows a plane's trail arcing

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« Reply #86 on: August 24, 2006, 07:05:54 PM »
Quote from: "Ubuntu"
qwerty789:

a) go fuck yourself

b) that photo shoes a plane's trail arcing


So we can safely assume that the plane that made that trail crashed then?

Quote from: "Ubuntu"
Quote from: "dysfunction"
Or else the planes fly curved paths.  :twisted:


If they flew arced (curved) paths, they would crash into the ground or fly into space on transcontinental flights.


 :roll:

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« Reply #87 on: August 24, 2006, 07:16:00 PM »
Quote from: "Ubuntu"
qwerty789:

a) go fuck yourself

b) that photo shoes a plane's trail arcing



Wow, you sure do get mad when you're proven flat out wrong. Oh well.

Arcing? Really? Again, how do you get that from that photo? That 'chemtrail' looks straight to me.

Or any photo actually? I don't care if it's mine. Post you own that shows what you're talking about.

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« Reply #88 on: August 24, 2006, 07:45:42 PM »
Rick_James, IF the Earth were flat. The evidence that the planes curve consistantly their entire trip (besides take off and landing) is that (besides the impossibility of a "constant dome") in a gentle arc: going at a slight (but visible) angle the entirety of long trips, they would crash into the ground (notice how they only appear to arc downwards when they are on the correct side of your vision?) even if they are adjusting a single degree every minute.

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« Reply #89 on: August 24, 2006, 07:51:56 PM »
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Rick_James, IF the Earth were flat. The evidence that the planes curve consistantly their entire trip (besides take off and landing) is that (besides the impossibility of a "constant dome") in a gentle arc: going at a slight (but visible) angle the entirety of long trips, they would crash into the ground (notice how they only appear to arc downwards when they are on the correct side of your vision?) even if they are adjusting a single degree every minute.


And why couldn't their constant arc end with them landing as they do now? You're assuming that they are nose-diving. Which I would imagine, is covered fairly early on in pilot school (Nose diving, how not to 101)