Is mars flat, too?

but, in order to have gravity, which it does... it must be moving UP... right?!

So if it doesn't follow the same principals... the entire theory falls apart!

(in other words, idiots, if other planetary bodies dont follow the same thing, it means your entire theory is not only flawed, its false. whats worse, is that other planetary bodies cannot be mapped flatly, either because they rotate and we can observe it from earth.)

Quote from: Eratosthenes2 on February 21, 2010, 10:00:17 AM

but, in order to have gravity, which it does... it must be moving UP... right?!

So if it doesn't follow the same principals... the entire theory falls apart!

(in other words, idiots, if other planetary bodies dont follow the same thing, it means your entire theory is not only flawed, its false. whats worse, is that other planetary bodies cannot be mapped flatly, either because they rotate and we can observe it from earth.)

Mars is round, has gravitation, and is affected by Universal Acceleration. There is no flaw, you're just an idiot.

matter causes gravity.

Quote from: Lorddave on March 31, 2010, 09:39:07 AM

matter causes gravity.

First of all, I believe you mean "gravitation". And second, that's a pretty rash statement to be making. Do you have any evidence to support that outlandish claim.

Quote from: Benjamin Franklin on March 31, 2010, 09:46:57 AM

Quote from: Lorddave on March 31, 2010, 09:39:07 AM

matter causes gravity.

First of all, I believe you mean "gravitation". And second, that's a pretty rash statement to be making. Do you have any evidence to support that outlandish claim.

There's no need to use the word "outlandish" every time someone claims something that is not in line with FET. You yourself just stated that Mars has gravitation. Saying that earth has it as well is not nearly outlandish enough to justify using those words to mock his claim.

Quote from: Misterkami on March 31, 2010, 10:25:51 AM

Quote from: Benjamin Franklin on March 31, 2010, 09:46:57 AM

Quote from: Lorddave on March 31, 2010, 09:39:07 AM

matter causes gravity.

First of all, I believe you mean "gravitation". And second, that's a pretty rash statement to be making. Do you have any evidence to support that outlandish claim.

There's no need to use the word "outlandish" every time someone claims something that is not in line with FET. You yourself just stated that Mars has gravitation. Saying that earth has it as well is not nearly outlandish enough to justify using those words to mock his claim.

That's like saying that since fish can breath underwater, so can humans. So either go into the deep end of the pool with several cinder blocks around your waist, or provide evidence for your claim that matter causes gravity (gravitation).

I could just as easily ask you to show me proof of the universal acceleration nonsense.  Could you?

Here's a fool proof testing method.
1. Get a chair.
2. Stand on chair.
3. Jump off chair.
4. Observe the Earth accelerate towards you.

Quote from: poser765 on March 31, 2010, 12:14:03 PM

I could just as easily ask you to show me proof of the universal acceleration nonsense.  Could you?

Quote from: Benjamin Franklin on March 31, 2010, 08:50:49 AM

Here's a fool proof testing method.
1. Get a chair.
2. Stand on chair.
3. Jump off chair.
4. Observe the Earth accelerate towards you.

Quote from: Benjamin Franklin on March 31, 2010, 12:20:00 PM

Quote from: poser765 on March 31, 2010, 12:14:03 PM

I could just as easily ask you to show me proof of the universal acceleration nonsense.  Could you?

Quote from: Benjamin Franklin on March 31, 2010, 08:50:49 AM

Here's a fool proof testing method.
1. Get a chair.
2. Stand on chair.
3. Jump off chair.
4. Observe the Earth accelerate towards you.

Not proof.  That shows results, with no explanation of why the results happen.  With your proof I could as easily make the claim that if proves that the air is so heavy it pushes us back to the earth. 

That test proves that in relation to your position the Earth accelerated towards you.

Quote from: poser765 on March 31, 2010, 12:24:49 PM

Quote from: Benjamin Franklin on March 31, 2010, 12:20:00 PM

Quote from: poser765 on March 31, 2010, 12:14:03 PM

I could just as easily ask you to show me proof of the universal acceleration nonsense.  Could you?

Quote from: Benjamin Franklin on March 31, 2010, 08:50:49 AM

Here's a fool proof testing method.
1. Get a chair.
2. Stand on chair.
3. Jump off chair.
4. Observe the Earth accelerate towards you.

Not proof.  That shows results, with no explanation of why the results happen.  With your proof I could as easily make the claim that if proves that the air is so heavy it pushes us back to the earth. 

That test proves that the Earth accelerated towards you. Logically something must be causing that, and we call it "Dark Energy".

Negative ghostrider...All that test proves is that if you move off the chair you move towards the earth/the earth moves to you.
Your proof that the earth rushes up to meet you just as easily proofs that we fall back towards the earth.

Quote from: poser765 on March 31, 2010, 12:34:14 PM

Negative ghostrider...All that test proves is that if you move off the chair you move towards the earth/the earth moves to you.
Your proof that the earth rushes up to meet you just as easily proofs that we fall back towards the earth.

You clearly failed at performing the experiment. The results do not show the earth is moving towards you, and that you're moving towards the earth.

Quote from: poser765 on March 31, 2010, 12:34:14 PM

Negative ghostrider...All that test proves is that if you move off the chair you move towards the earth/the earth moves to you.
Your proof that the earth rushes up to meet you just as easily proofs that we fall back towards the earth.

You clearly failed at performing the experiment. The results do not show the earth is moving towards you, and that you're moving towards the earth.

Um wait.  Are you saying I failed at falling off a chair?  Even if somehow I managed to do it wrong (wtf?) i still don't see how the results would be anything other than me impacting the ground.  Thus the results of the test are going to be exactly the same as if I do it right or wrong.

Quote from: poser765 on March 31, 2010, 12:44:31 PM

Um wait.  Are you saying I failed at falling off a chair?  Even if somehow I managed to do it wrong (wtf?) i still don't see how the results would be anything other than me impacting the ground.  Thus the results of the test are going to be exactly the same as if I do it right or wrong.

If you were to use a jetpack and fly upwards, you would have clearly performed the test wrong and gotten very different results versus performing correctly.

Quote from: Benjamin Franklin on March 31, 2010, 01:00:42 PM

Quote from: poser765 on March 31, 2010, 12:44:31 PM

Um wait.  Are you saying I failed at falling off a chair?  Even if somehow I managed to do it wrong (wtf?) i still don't see how the results would be anything other than me impacting the ground.  Thus the results of the test are going to be exactly the same as if I do it right or wrong.

If you were to use a jetpack and fly upwards, you would have clearly performed the test wrong and gotten very different results versus performing correctly.

You're an idiot and you know very well why. Stop trolling. You should clearly know better.

Your experiment proves nothing.

Quote from: 2fst4u on March 31, 2010, 01:02:24 PM

Quote from: Benjamin Franklin on March 31, 2010, 01:00:42 PM

Quote from: poser765 on March 31, 2010, 12:44:31 PM

Um wait.  Are you saying I failed at falling off a chair?  Even if somehow I managed to do it wrong (wtf?) i still don't see how the results would be anything other than me impacting the ground.  Thus the results of the test are going to be exactly the same as if I do it right or wrong.

If you were to use a jetpack and fly upwards, you would have clearly performed the test wrong and gotten very different results versus performing correctly.

You're an idiot and you know very well why. Stop trolling. You should clearly know better.

Your experiment proves nothing.

It proves that the Earth and the person falling do not have the same velocity in any Frame of Reference.

It doesn't prove nothing.

Quote from: 2fst4u on March 31, 2010, 01:05:09 PM

It doesn't prove nothing.

That's a double negation. It is equivalent to it proves something.