I saw the ISS two nights ago.

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flyingmonkey

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Re: I saw the ISS two nights ago.
« Reply #90 on: March 22, 2010, 07:32:56 PM »
But that object is CURVED accroding to RE. So there ANYWAY should be a spot of higher lucidity!


Do the goddamn ping pong ball stadium experiment.

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Re: I saw the ISS two nights ago.
« Reply #91 on: March 22, 2010, 07:38:56 PM »
I can end this pretty easy.

Take a blank sheet of paper(not high glossy paper).
Now walk outside in the day time.

Now tell me if there's a lightspot on the paper.
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Re: I saw the ISS two nights ago.
« Reply #92 on: March 22, 2010, 07:41:22 PM »
I can end this pretty easy.

Take a blank sheet of paper(not high glossy paper).
Now walk outside in the day time.

Now tell me if there's a lightspot on the paper.


Form the paper into a ball and you'll get the same result, tested it just now.

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Re: I saw the ISS two nights ago.
« Reply #93 on: March 22, 2010, 07:42:34 PM »
I can end this pretty easy.

Take a blank sheet of paper(not high glossy paper).
Now walk outside in the day time.

Now tell me if there's a lightspot on the paper.


Form the paper into a ball and you'll get the same result, tested it just now.

$50 says it changes nothing.
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Re: I saw the ISS two nights ago.
« Reply #94 on: March 22, 2010, 11:36:51 PM »
Well, there should be a spot of higher lucidity at least on the Earth in the clear day reflecting in the water. But we can't test it, cause most pictures are just renderings.

Well, another question.

Moon travels across the night sky with the same speed and general direction as stars do. Why it happens? In the videos and schemes you've provided it seen that moon travels much more faster than Earth's revolving. And another thing, moon travels across the sky as fast as Sun does - how can it happen? So, Moon, Sun and Stars travel with same speed. But it couldn't be accroding to those schemes where Moon is imagined travelling fast and revolving slower than Earth does in order to conduct a tidal lock. So, make your math now. How three objects in motion conduct with a fourth one(the Earth).

Something is definately wrong with explanation about solar systen or fat-fetched.

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Re: I saw the ISS two nights ago.
« Reply #95 on: March 23, 2010, 12:38:25 AM »
I can end this pretty easy.

Take a blank sheet of paper(not high glossy paper).
Now walk outside in the day time.

Now tell me if there's a lightspot on the paper.


Form the paper into a ball and you'll get the same result, tested it just now.

Same result? Really? Including sunlight shining with same intensity on the parts that are now the side of the ball furthest from the sun? Just how thin was that sheet of paper?
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flyingmonkey

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Re: I saw the ISS two nights ago.
« Reply #96 on: March 23, 2010, 01:05:29 AM »
Same result? Really? Including sunlight shining with same intensity on the parts that are now the side of the ball furthest from the sun? Just how thin was that sheet of paper?

You know what I meant, the light facing side has no highlights as Dim expects.

Well, there should be a spot of higher lucidity at least on the Earth in the clear day reflecting in the water. But we can't test it, cause most pictures are just renderings.


You are right, there is, because the ocean is a source of reflection.

Moon travels across the night sky with the same speed and general direction as stars do. Why it happens? In the videos and schemes you've provided it seen that moon travels much more faster than Earth's revolving. And another thing, moon travels across the sky as fast as Sun does - how can it happen? So, Moon, Sun and Stars travel with same speed. But it couldn't be accroding to those schemes where Moon is imagined travelling fast and revolving slower than Earth does in order to conduct a tidal lock. So, make your math now. How three objects in motion conduct with a fourth one(the Earth).

Something is definately wrong with explanation about solar systen or fat-fetched.

The Earth rotates, the Moon travels a lot faster than the stars do (I don't even see how you came to that conclusion)
The Moon also orbits the Earth, aswel as the Earth spinning, which make's it faster.

The Sun and Moon don't have the same orbital period, how do you think we get solar eclipses?

Everything in that last part was your own misunderstanding of how it works, nothing else.

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Re: I saw the ISS two nights ago.
« Reply #97 on: March 23, 2010, 02:08:11 AM »
Well, I will contunue my observations of moon's, sun's and stars' speeds.

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Re: I saw the ISS two nights ago.
« Reply #98 on: March 23, 2010, 07:13:23 AM »
Same result? Really? Including sunlight shining with same intensity on the parts that are now the side of the ball furthest from the sun? Just how thin was that sheet of paper?

You know what I meant, the light facing side has no highlights as Dim expects.

well.. no highlights ok.. but surely there was enough shading on it to see it was a sphere, right?
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Re: I saw the ISS two nights ago.
« Reply #99 on: March 23, 2010, 07:26:58 AM »
Same result? Really? Including sunlight shining with same intensity on the parts that are now the side of the ball furthest from the sun? Just how thin was that sheet of paper?

You know what I meant, the light facing side has no highlights as Dim expects.

well.. no highlights ok.. but surely there was enough shading on it to see it was a sphere, right?

Not when I stood a few feet away with it on the fence.


Try it, not like making a ball of paper is an expensive experiment

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Re: I saw the ISS two nights ago.
« Reply #100 on: March 23, 2010, 07:34:25 AM »
Same result? Really? Including sunlight shining with same intensity on the parts that are now the side of the ball furthest from the sun? Just how thin was that sheet of paper?

You know what I meant, the light facing side has no highlights as Dim expects.

well.. no highlights ok.. but surely there was enough shading on it to see it was a sphere, right?


Not when I stood a few feet away with it on the fence.


Try it, not like making a ball of paper is an expensive experiment
well.. I did.. and it had shading. I'm kinda wondering what your ball of paper looks like in the sun if there is no shading on it. Is it like a bright pure white disc standing on it's side? The experiment kinda confuses me; could very well be that I agree with you, just at a loss here at the moment.
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Re: I saw the ISS two nights ago.
« Reply #101 on: March 23, 2010, 07:39:26 AM »
well.. I did.. and it had shading.


Like this:



Or like this:




Mines the latter, no definitive highlights, as expected from something like the Moon.

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Re: I saw the ISS two nights ago.
« Reply #102 on: March 23, 2010, 12:15:27 PM »
Highlights only occur if the surface has enough gloss to keep the light from scattering too much. 
Rocks are porous and generally absorb and scatter light.  Polished marble, on the other hand, is very smooth and all the holes that would normally be on the surface are sanded down, resulting in a shiny surface.

Shiny = Very smooth.
Not Shiny = Not smooth.
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Re: I saw the ISS two nights ago.
« Reply #103 on: March 23, 2010, 01:21:54 PM »
OK, then we agree; my question was about the highlights / shading thing. so it dfoes have shading, but no highlights. Sounds logical and it is similar to my own observations. btw, nice pictures
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