The sun is flat?

How can the sun be flat? There are currently sunspots on the sun that rotate around it. Any person with a common telescope and the right filter can look at the sun everyday and see the spots work their way around the sun. Due to the sun being a sphere when the spots first appear on the east side of the sun (the east side of the sun is the left side when looking at it) you will notice the sunspots appear to grow as they work their way to the middle of the disk due to the viewing angle. Once they pass the middle and continue to move to the west and off the disk they will shrink again. In most cases the same spot will become visible again about 12-13 days once the spot rotates off the back of the sun.

Also sunspots can be seen with the naked eye (very large ones) I wouldn't try it at home.

And since we are talking about sunspots we can also talk about solar flares which come off the sunspots once the magnetic field that creates the sunspot snaps which shoots particles at almost the speed of light. Depending where the spot is determines at which angle the flare shoots out at. If the flare shoots off dead center of the sun the flare is called a full halo. This is because the flare looks like a halo because it is coming directly towards earth. If the flare shoots of one of the sides its clearly seen shooting off at an angle. This is because the sun is a sphere.

No one said the sun was flat.

does it shine in only one direction? is it round?

No one said the sun was flat.

James thinks the Sun and Moon are both flat "massice" (whatever that means) discs.
When I pointed out to him that both the Sun and even more so the Moon have the appearance of spherical bodies when viewed at even a small magnification, his pathetic response was to deny this and say it "looks flat to him". 

Thus proving he's either (a) lying, or (b) insane, or (c) visually impaired.

So basically the sun isn't flat? Conversation seems dead now then doesn't it?

Quote from: 2fst4u on February 10, 2010, 01:12:01 PM

No one said the sun was flat.

James thinks the Sun and Moon are both flat "massice" (whatever that means) discs.
When I pointed out to him that both the Sun and even more so the Moon have the appearance of spherical bodies when viewed at even a small magnification, his pathetic response was to deny this and say it "looks flat to him". 

Thus proving he's either (a) lying, or (b) insane, or (c) visually impaired.

b.

Quote from: Thermal Detonator on February 10, 2010, 04:55:06 PM

Quote from: 2fst4u on February 10, 2010, 01:12:01 PM

No one said the sun was flat.

James thinks the Sun and Moon are both flat "massice" (whatever that means) discs.
When I pointed out to him that both the Sun and even more so the Moon have the appearance of spherical bodies when viewed at even a small magnification, his pathetic response was to deny this and say it "looks flat to him". 

Thus proving he's either (a) lying, or (b) insane, or (c) visually impaired.

b.

That would be my opinion too.

The Sun is bioluminescent. Small dark patches occur for one of two main likely reasons:

a) There is temporarily no luminescent biomass in that patch,

b) Whatever luminescent biomass is on that patch is "underneath" (above, in Earth-terms) some obstacle.

Sunspots don't really tell us anything about the shape of the Sun I'm afraid.

I too would advise against staring at the Sun for too long, since the Solar biomass has a self-defence mechanism of blinding and carcinogenic rays. Always wear sunscreen and never stare at the Sun.

The Sun is bioluminescent. Small dark patches occur for one of two main likely reasons:

a) There is temporarily no luminescent biomass in that patch,

b) Whatever luminescent biomass is on that patch is "underneath" (above, in Earth-terms) some obstacle.

Sunspots don't really tell us anything about the shape of the Sun I'm afraid.

I too would advise against staring at the Sun for too long, since the Solar biomass has a self-defence mechanism of blinding and carcinogenic rays. Always wear sunscreen and never stare at the Sun.

prove it

The Sun is bioluminescent. Small dark patches occur for one of two main likely reasons:

a) There is temporarily no luminescent biomass in that patch,

b) Whatever luminescent biomass is on that patch is "underneath" (above, in Earth-terms) some obstacle.

Sunspots don't really tell us anything about the shape of the Sun I'm afraid.

I too would advise against staring at the Sun for too long, since the Solar biomass has a self-defence mechanism of blinding and carcinogenic rays. Always wear sunscreen and never stare at the Sun.

Yet, if it were round, each point could be rationally answered without dispute (except from ignorant knobs like yourself who see it only possible to come up with new answers). Sunspots traversing the sun are easier to accept than 'bio-luminescent matter' being hidden under an unknown object. It's a fricken ball of fire.

The Sun is bioluminescent.

Then where does its heat come from?

Quote from: James on February 12, 2010, 06:14:48 PM

The Sun is bioluminescent.

Then where does its heat come from?

Know you of any terrestrial animal which fails to emit heat? If you do know of any, know you of many?

Quote from: James on February 12, 2010, 06:14:48 PM

The Sun is bioluminescent. Small dark patches occur for one of two main likely reasons:

a) There is temporarily no luminescent biomass in that patch,

b) Whatever luminescent biomass is on that patch is "underneath" (above, in Earth-terms) some obstacle.

Sunspots don't really tell us anything about the shape of the Sun I'm afraid.

I too would advise against staring at the Sun for too long, since the Solar biomass has a self-defence mechanism of blinding and carcinogenic rays. Always wear sunscreen and never stare at the Sun.

Yet, if it were round, each point could be rationally answered without dispute (except from ignorant knobs like yourself who see it only possible to come up with new answers). Sunspots traversing the sun are easier to accept than 'bio-luminescent matter' being hidden under an unknown object. It's a fricken ball of fire.

No, globularism's outlandish claims do not provide "answer without dispute". There is legitimate dispute occuring right now. Since the days of ancient Egypt, mankind has known that the Sun is alive. The burden of proof lies with the Round Earthers who want to claims that it is a gigantic fire-ball millions of miles away.

As for "easier to accept", being "easy to accept" has never been a reasonable criteria for the rigors of science. The truth may be difficult to accept, but we must accept it, or we deceive ourselves for the sake of our own comfort.

Sunspots aren't permanent.

Quote from: Thermal Detonator on February 13, 2010, 02:58:09 AM

Quote from: James on February 12, 2010, 06:14:48 PM

The Sun is bioluminescent.

Then where does its heat come from?

Know you of any terrestrial animal which fails to emit heat? If you do know of any, know you of many?

I hate to be the one to make you look a bit foolish (actually that's a lie, I enjoy it immensely) but you claim the Moon is also lit by bioluminescent critters, yet you also go on and on about how it emits not a jot of heat of any kind (which is wrong in itself, but hey, let's see you get out of your self contradiction here).

I do recall I once walked past a ship full of sailors sleeping on deck and got a mild burn from the heat they emitted.

And my point in asking that if you knew any, knew you many, was that I knew some.

And my point in asking that if you knew any, knew you many, was that I knew some.

Why talking like Yoda are you? Hmmm?

And my point in asking that if you knew any, knew you many, was that I knew some.

What the hell does that even mean.

I think he means... What does he mean?

Quote from: Thermal Detonator on February 13, 2010, 02:58:09 AM

Quote from: James on February 12, 2010, 06:14:48 PM

The Sun is bioluminescent.

Then where does its heat come from?

Know you of any terrestrial animal which fails to emit heat? If you do know of any, know you of many?

Quote from: 2fst4u on February 12, 2010, 08:25:11 PM

Quote from: James on February 12, 2010, 06:14:48 PM

The Sun is bioluminescent. Small dark patches occur for one of two main likely reasons:

a) There is temporarily no luminescent biomass in that patch,

b) Whatever luminescent biomass is on that patch is "underneath" (above, in Earth-terms) some obstacle.

Sunspots don't really tell us anything about the shape of the Sun I'm afraid.

I too would advise against staring at the Sun for too long, since the Solar biomass has a self-defence mechanism of blinding and carcinogenic rays. Always wear sunscreen and never stare at the Sun.

Yet, if it were round, each point could be rationally answered without dispute (except from ignorant knobs like yourself who see it only possible to come up with new answers). Sunspots traversing the sun are easier to accept than 'bio-luminescent matter' being hidden under an unknown object. It's a fricken ball of fire.

No, globularism's outlandish claims do not provide "answer without dispute". There is legitimate dispute occuring right now. Since the days of ancient Egypt, mankind has known that the Sun is alive. The burden of proof lies with the Round Earthers who want to claims that it is a gigantic fire-ball millions of miles away.

As for "easier to accept", being "easy to accept" has never been a reasonable criteria for the rigors of science. The truth may be difficult to accept, but we must accept it, or we deceive ourselves for the sake of our own comfort.

Wut...

There is a limiting factor on how big an organism can get. Transport systems. What is the Sun's transport system?

The Sun is bioluminescent. Small dark patches occur for one of two main likely reasons:

a) There is temporarily no luminescent biomass in that patch,

b) Whatever luminescent biomass is on that patch is "underneath" (above, in Earth-terms) some obstacle.

Sunspots don't really tell us anything about the shape of the Sun I'm afraid.

I too would advise against staring at the Sun for too long, since the Solar biomass has a self-defence mechanism of blinding and carcinogenic rays. Always wear sunscreen and never stare at the Sun.

I hate to say it but sunspots do emit light. The reason they are darker is because they are cooler than the rest of the surface of the sun. Solar flares also occur on the backside of the sun, the side we don't see. You can see the with a surface telescope with the right filters once the flare is far away enough that the brightness of the surface doesn't flood out the flare.

Here is a video of a satellite called Lasco. There is a small disk they put over the sun its self so they can only observed the suns out atmosphere, helping make the CMEs (flares) more visible. A lot of those plasma clouds shooting off the sun are coming off the back of the sun.

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I could dig up some surface based images but loops wont happen from the surface due to earths rotation/weather (cloud cover).

Here is another cool vid, comet at 0:05:

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Here you see a full halo CME, when these occur it mean one of two things. The CME is heading to Earth or away. This one is going to Earth, the reason you know this is because you can see all the white dots one the camera. Those are the Protons bombarding the the satellites sensors.



I know since these are satellite images they are part of the conspiracy. But there are land based images you can fins showing these flare usally from amateur astronomers.

Here is an MDI loop (surface based), it's choppy due to the lack of images at night/weather.

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Here is a high res image of the sun (taken from the surface):

http://zuserver2.star.ucl.ac.uk/~idh/apod/ap051106.html

Another image taken from earths surface.:

http://web.me.com/uriarte/Earths_Climate/Sunspots_and_solar_cycles_files/sunspot032901.gif

here you can see the sphererical shape of the sun distorting the spots that are on the side of the sun.

It doesn't look like to me that there are patches covering pieces of the sun. Seems to me they those things are on the suns surface.