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Re: Random Political Comic thread
« Reply #90 on: January 15, 2010, 08:42:16 PM »
Bingo!  :D

How would you feel if you were Obama and the Chinese ambassador came and bowed before you? Now try vice versa, but with shaking hands.

Let the Chinese ambassador bow if he wants, I don't want my president bowing at a representative of a country that treats it people like crap.

How china treats its people is China's business. China is an ally and allies must show respect towards eachother. Bowing does not mean "I worship you and your communist ways"

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Re: Random Political Comic thread
« Reply #91 on: January 15, 2010, 09:01:59 PM »
You forget he gets on his knees for god.
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Re: Random Political Comic thread
« Reply #92 on: January 16, 2010, 12:33:54 AM »
It's when we start kissing feet that complaints need to be made.

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Re: Random Political Comic thread
« Reply #93 on: January 16, 2010, 12:42:25 AM »
The chinese delegae would always look like he is bowing.
Stop all this nonesense and bring on the lapdancers.
I understand Jack1704. It's a Brit thing.

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Re: Random Political Comic thread
« Reply #94 on: January 16, 2010, 12:44:58 AM »
I don't want my president bowing at a representative of a country that treats it people like crap.

Unfortunately for you, the U.S.A. is not a democracy. I doubt Obama cares what you think.
I'm going to side with the white supremacists.

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Re: Random Political Comic thread
« Reply #95 on: January 16, 2010, 12:47:13 AM »
I don't want my president bowing at a representative of a country that treats it people like crap.

Unfortunately for you, the U.S.A. is not a democracy. I doubt Obama cares what you think.

Evidence of this:

Obama says Global Warming is a concern.

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« Reply #96 on: January 16, 2010, 12:47:45 AM »
I don't want my president bowing at a representative of a country that treats it people like crap.

Unfortunately for you, the U.S.A. is not a democracy. I doubt Obama cares what you think.
I want the queen to take back her countries an rule them with an iron fist
Stop all this nonesense and bring on the lapdancers.
I understand Jack1704. It's a Brit thing.

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Re: Random Political Comic thread
« Reply #97 on: January 16, 2010, 01:17:22 AM »


That would convince me.  Though, I would not preclude the possibility of an extremely elaborate hoax, or more likely, a flaw in mental functionality.  Sadly, the scenario is moot.  Deities seem to abhor proving their existence via apparent evidence.  They much prefer to act well within the bounds of nebulous anecdotes.

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« Reply #98 on: January 16, 2010, 01:19:14 AM »
Though, I would not preclude the possibility of an extremely elaborate hoax, or more likely, a flaw in mental functionality.

Or even an anomaly in the galactic plane.
I'm going to side with the white supremacists.

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« Reply #99 on: January 16, 2010, 01:40:13 AM »


I'd punch the guy after going back on his word -_-
« Last Edit: January 16, 2010, 01:47:33 AM by FearTehGators »

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« Reply #100 on: January 16, 2010, 01:42:00 AM »
I'd punch the guy after going back on his word -_

I'm glad to see you've been keeping up with the teachings of Christ.
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« Reply #101 on: January 16, 2010, 01:46:14 AM »
I'd punch the guy after going back on his word -_

I'm glad to see you've been keeping up with the teachings of Christ.

Alas, the misconception that Christians are supposed to be pacifists continues.

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« Reply #102 on: January 16, 2010, 01:48:03 AM »
Alas, the misconception that Christians are supposed to be pacifists continues.

I'm sure it does. However, there was nothing in my post to suggest that, so I'm confused as to why you quoted it.
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« Reply #103 on: January 16, 2010, 01:51:36 AM »
Alas, the misconception that Christians are supposed to be pacifists continues.

...there was nothing in my post to suggest that,...

LIEZ!

Re: Random Political Comic thread
« Reply #104 on: January 16, 2010, 02:23:01 AM »
How would you feel if you were Obama and the Chinese ambassador came and bowed before you? Now try vice versa, but with shaking hands.
http://hotairpundit.blogspot.com/2009/11/president-obama-vs-rest-of-world.html

Leaders of Israel, Morocco, South Korea and India did not bow to the Japanese Emperor, Obama did. How international of him.

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Re: Random Political Comic thread
« Reply #105 on: January 16, 2010, 02:34:55 AM »
Alas, the misconception that Christians are supposed to be pacifists continues.

Doesn't Matthew clearly quote Jesus (I'm not entirely convinced that Jesus was even literate.  Hence the need for scribes and a complete lack of documentation for posterity of the alleged word of God, but that's a different discussion.) during the Sermon on the Mount as telling people they should have a pacifistic point-of-view?  If you call yourself a Christian, then it should only be fair for others to assume that you follow the words of Christ.  To deny a pacifistic lifestyle is to deny Jesus' teachings.  To deny Jesus' teachings is to deny Christianity.  Are you prepared to deny these things?

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« Reply #106 on: January 16, 2010, 07:58:20 AM »


I'd punch the guy after going back on his word -_-

I thought the step after attempted conversion was to slaughter the heathens?
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« Reply #107 on: January 16, 2010, 09:32:32 AM »
I'm not entirely convinced that Jesus was even literate.  Hence the need for scribes and a complete lack of documentation for posterity of the alleged word of God, but that's a different discussion.
Die in a fire, dude. How could have he read the scriptures in front of everyone in the sinagouge?

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« Reply #108 on: January 16, 2010, 09:43:54 AM »
I'd punch the guy after going back on his word -_

I'm glad to see you've been keeping up with the teachings of Christ.

Alas, the misconception that Christians are supposed to be pacifists continues.

Than you are no better than the Muslim extremists that you are so against.

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« Reply #109 on: January 16, 2010, 11:34:54 AM »
Let me ask you this, what make you better than what your accusing me being (blatantly ignorant) when you blatantly continue with the misconception that Christians are supposed to be pacifists?

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« Reply #110 on: January 16, 2010, 11:41:19 AM »
Let me ask you this, what make you better than what your accusing me being (blatantly ignorant) when you blatantly continue with the misconception that Christians are supposed to be pacifists?

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James 3:17-18 (New International Version)

 17But the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all pure; then peace-loving, considerate, submissive, full of mercy and good fruit, impartial and sincere. 18Peacemakers who sow in peace raise a harvest of righteousness.

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« Reply #111 on: January 16, 2010, 11:53:27 AM »
Let me ask you this, what make you better than what your accusing me being (blatantly ignorant) when you blatantly continue with the misconception that Christians are supposed to be pacifists?

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James 3:17-18 (New International Version)

 17But the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all pure; then peace-loving, considerate, submissive, full of mercy and good fruit, impartial and sincere. 18Peacemakers who sow in peace raise a harvest of righteousness.

That's talking about God's love not how Christians should act. I encourage you to read the whole chapter to get the whole story. May I suggest a study bible?

Re: Random Political Comic thread
« Reply #112 on: January 16, 2010, 11:53:43 AM »
From PacifistChristian.org-

1. How can you insist that Christians are supposed to be pacifists when the Bible provides examples of men and women of faith who have participated in wars and killed their enemies, even in service to God?
[A frequently heard objection to pacifist Christianity is that since the Old Testament contains examples of believers in God (Abraham, Deborah, David, etc.) who have fought in battles and waged wars and still received approval from God, then it seems reasonable that Christians also can participate in ?just wars? and remain in God?s will.]

Before the time of Jesus, God allowed the taking of an enemy?s life, as indicated in both the Noahic and Mosaic Covenants. God told Noah that ?whoever sheds man?s blood, by man his blood shall be shed? (Gen. 9:1-17). In the Mosaic Covenant, the people of Israel were given rules for warfare (Deut. 20). Thus, in the Old Testament era the people of God who abided by these regulations were counted as faithful and blameless before God.

But these instructions found in earlier covenants were not God?s final word on the subject of killing in wars. Both the law and the prophets spoke of the day when God would send a person greater than Moses (Deut. 18: 15-19) who would establish a New Covenant (Jer. 31:31) that would replace the Old, or Mosaic, Covenant. Both these and many other prophecies were fulfilled by Jesus Christ.

God?s ultimate view on participation in warfare is found in the words and life of Jesus, who as God in the flesh, reveals the true expression of God?s nature (Heb. 1:3). Therefore, Jesus? New Covenant position on this issue should determine the stance that all Christians must take. The words of Jesus are, ?You have heard that it was said ?You shall love your neighbor? and hate your enemy. But I say to you, love your enemies, and pray for those who persecute you,? (Mt. 5:43-44).

Jesus clearly said that his followers are to love everyone, even their enemies. The love for an enemy was best demonstrated by Jesus, who refused to fight against his enemies (Matt. 26:51-53, John 18:36), patiently endured his undeserved sufferings, and totally forgave those responsible for his death. This is why Christians should not kill in war.


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« Reply #113 on: January 16, 2010, 11:56:56 AM »
Also, for teh lulz,

5. How would Pacifist Christians respond to the current problem of suicide bombers?

[Many people believe that the only way to deal with violence is to ?fight fire with fire? and that a massive show of military force is the only way to react towards heinous acts such as suicide bombings.]

Those who hold this position often think that pacifist Christianity provides no ?practical? response towards terrorist bombers. Since the events of 9/11, Americans are very aware of the dangers posed by radical political and religious extremists, especially the suicide bombers. Since these terrorists are prepared to die in their attempts to kill as many people as possible, it has been argued that the only ?realistic? way to deal with them is to either capture and incarcerate them for life or kill them before they carry out their murders.

Can pacifist Christians do anything to curtail these suicide bombers? Is there a nonviolent response that they can carry out?

Many suicide bombers are guided by false religious beliefs that teach that they are pleasing God by killing the ?infidels? and that they will be rewarded with eternity in paradise by forfeiting their own lives as they kill others.

Pacifist Christians can counteract these false teachings by boldly proclaiming the good news of Jesus: that though God?s righteousness has judged all humans as worthy of eternal punishment because of their sins and unbelief, forgiveness of sins and a new life have been made possible through the death and resurrection of the Messiah, Jesus. Through the Holy Spirit and the New Testament, Jesus now commands everyone to love all people, including their enemies.

If we truly recognize Jesus as the Messiah and Son of God, we must take his commandment very seriously and from this time forth cease to participate in the murder of our personal or national enemies. Jesus has called all believers in the one true God to show love towards one another and stop participating in all killings, even those sanctioned by governments. If necessary, we are commanded to lay down our own lives, but only in order to save others. This is this sort of love and faith that truly pleases God.



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Re: Random Political Comic thread
« Reply #116 on: January 17, 2010, 02:08:51 PM »
I eagerly await evidence that suggests Christians should be warriors.

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« Reply #117 on: January 17, 2010, 02:33:10 PM »
I eagerly await evidence that suggests Christians should be warriors.

The Bible doesn't really specify that sort of thing, all I know is you won't find a Christian that will be your doormat.

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« Reply #118 on: January 17, 2010, 02:47:01 PM »
Actually I just did. See PacifistChristian.org

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« Reply #119 on: January 17, 2010, 03:01:50 PM »
I eagerly await evidence that suggests Christians should be warriors.

The Bible doesn't really specify that sort of thing, all I know is you won't find a Christian that will be your doormat.

the bible specifies it pretty well, actually.

"But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. If someone strikes you on one cheek, turn to him the other also. If someone takes your cloak, do not stop him from taking your tunic. Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. Do to others as you would have them do to you."
    ?Luke 6:27-31. NIV

"You have heard that it was said, 'An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth.' But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. If someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you."
    ?Matthew 5:38-42, NIV
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