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Areweonfiya

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Re: Random Political Comic thread
« Reply #450 on: March 09, 2010, 04:23:59 PM »
This seriously can't be up for debate, this just hurts everyone's credibility.

So you're not going to explain why you feel this way?

I wanted to originally but no cause you are acting like idiots intentionally, hillbillies. How's your cousin/Dad doing?

Again, why? From a purely subjective point of view what is wrong with it? We have an aversion to incest because throughout history inbreeding almost always results in a mucked up baby - the consequences of a too-shallow gene pool.

Take the possibility of a baby away, what's wrong with two adults who happen to be related sleeping with one another?

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Re: Random Political Comic thread
« Reply #451 on: March 09, 2010, 04:33:53 PM »
don't forget yer overalls.

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Re: Random Political Comic thread
« Reply #452 on: March 09, 2010, 04:37:01 PM »
don't forget yer overalls.

I am not sure what you're trying to imply, but please, explain your position on the matter.
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Areweonfiya

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Re: Random Political Comic thread
« Reply #453 on: March 09, 2010, 04:40:27 PM »
don't forget yer overalls.

Dude, if you want to make a point, you need to provide an argument without vomitting mindless insults and ad hominems. I'm pretty sure no one here is fond of having sexual relations with their relatives. Besides, coming from you, I find it pretty ironic.

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Christianrocker90

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Re: Random Political Comic thread
« Reply #454 on: March 09, 2010, 04:51:14 PM »
My point in all this if you see nothing wrong with incest you're no better than hillbillies so you may as well act like one.

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Re: Random Political Comic thread
« Reply #455 on: March 09, 2010, 04:52:05 PM »
My point in all this if you see nothing wrong with incest you're no better than hillbillies so you may as well act like one.

And yet, you still refuse to rationalise that argument.
I'm going to side with the white supremacists.

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Re: Random Political Comic thread
« Reply #456 on: March 09, 2010, 04:56:47 PM »
My point in all this if you see nothing wrong with incest you're no better than hillbillies so you may as well act like one.

And yet, you still refuse to rationalise that argument.

Christians. ::)
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Areweonfiya

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Re: Random Political Comic thread
« Reply #457 on: March 09, 2010, 04:59:29 PM »
My point in all this if you see nothing wrong with incest you're no better than hillbillies so you may as well act like one.

My point in all this if you see nothing wrong with being a conservative christian you're no better than hillbillies so you may as well act like one.


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Re: Random Political Comic thread
« Reply #458 on: March 09, 2010, 05:01:26 PM »
I'm a hillbilly.  Tis a nice life.   8)

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Christianrocker90

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Re: Random Political Comic thread
« Reply #459 on: March 09, 2010, 05:05:51 PM »
OMG the idiocy.

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Re: Random Political Comic thread
« Reply #460 on: March 09, 2010, 05:08:04 PM »
OMG the idiocy.

Come on IRC and talk to Infernus.
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Christianrocker90

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Re: Random Political Comic thread
« Reply #461 on: March 09, 2010, 05:09:10 PM »
OMG the idiocy.

Come on IRC and talk to Infernus.

Let's see don't go on IRC and have a nice peaceful night or go on IRC and ahve a debate, I think I'll pick the former.

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Mrs. Peach

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Re: Random Political Comic thread
« Reply #462 on: March 09, 2010, 05:10:02 PM »
OMG the idiocy.


Well!!!!!  I'm offended!!!!  

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Sean

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Re: Random Political Comic thread
« Reply #463 on: March 09, 2010, 05:27:46 PM »
OMG the idiocy.

Come on IRC and talk to Infernus.

Let's see don't go on IRC and have a nice peaceful night or go on IRC and ahve a debate, I think I'll pick the former.

Debating is fun, you should try it.
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Re: Random Political Comic thread
« Reply #464 on: March 09, 2010, 07:09:35 PM »
Incest is wrong because general society says incest is wrong. Society likes people who shares similar, if not the same, views, so if you wish to live in society, you should share similar, if not the same, moral views.

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Re: Random Political Comic thread
« Reply #465 on: March 09, 2010, 09:02:24 PM »
My point in all this if you see nothing wrong with incest you're no better than hillbillies so you may as well act like one.

Let me break this argument down. So if you have sex with someone closely related to you, you are as bad as a non specific group that is considered bad in your head because you are conforming to this stereotype?

Let me try.

If you symbolically consume the flesh and blood of another person you are no better than a christian so you my as well act like one.

Why is cannibalism wrong except when you're pretending to do it?

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Re: Random Political Comic thread
« Reply #466 on: March 09, 2010, 09:38:40 PM »
Guys, let me field this one.  I am from Kentucky and spent the majority of my adult live living in the Appalachian Mountains.  FearTehGators, by region, I am a "hillbilly" so please answer me this question.  If two people love each other and consent to having an adult relationship together, with the requisite of never reproducing, what is morally wrong?

Is it wrong simply because it makes you feel icky inside?

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Raist

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Re: Random Political Comic thread
« Reply #467 on: March 09, 2010, 09:41:02 PM »
(Incest is only wrong if we are evolving.)

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Pongo

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Re: Random Political Comic thread
« Reply #468 on: March 09, 2010, 09:50:44 PM »
(Incest is only wrong if we are evolving.)

That's certainly debatable.

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Raist

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Re: Random Political Comic thread
« Reply #469 on: March 09, 2010, 10:05:54 PM »
(Incest is only wrong if we are evolving.)

That's certainly debatable.

Sexual reproduction is necessary to increase genetic diversity in the population. Due to fitness of genes we would become homozygous for most genes without mutation and selective forces that favor heterozygousness. (look into cheetah's lack of disease resistance and lack of genetic diversity for proof of concept here). If most people were fairly homogeneous genetically, there would be no difference between having sex with your cousin and having sex with a complete stranger.

You also have the problem of a young earth causing everyone to be within so many generations of each other. This would allow nearly no genetic diversity even if people were of different races.

Incest really would be insignificant without evolution. (at a more basic level, without mutations the driving force behind evolution incest would be completely innocent with no ill effects)

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Re: Random Political Comic thread
« Reply #470 on: March 09, 2010, 10:16:23 PM »
I will give that there is probably nothing inherently wrong with incest. but from a physiological stand point I am guessing it is not healthy.
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Re: Random Political Comic thread
« Reply #471 on: March 10, 2010, 01:02:50 AM »
One of the main driving forces of speciation is to have an isolated population stay isolated for long enough until they can no longer breed with the original population.  On islands especially, the offshoot population is presumed to be a very few amount of individuals (or even one) that become isolated.  Looking at the diversity of live on islands, one can conclude that the incestuous relationships of these species couldn't have been all that wrong.

See, debatable!

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Re: Random Political Comic thread
« Reply #472 on: March 10, 2010, 01:32:52 AM »
The morality of both incest and cannibalism is questionable at best, but since society deems it immoral, there's really no way of saying it isn't without people reacting like CR90. He may be an immature asshat about it, but his reaction is healthy, and only shows that he can learn morals from his community. Honestly, I think we shouldn't stigmatise cannibalism as much as we do. Human corpses are taking up too much space as it is, and once you're dead, even if there is an afterlife, why the hell would you care about what happens to the one thing that's shackled you to the mundane Earthly life you've lived all these years? I know I wouldn't.

However, many Christians today claim that homosexuality is a sin and that God considers it wrong. When asked for the Scriptural foundation for this, they will invariably cite Leviticus 18:22.

Quote from: Leviticus 18:22
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Why is this verse still considered applicable, even though the rest of the Mosaic Law has been discarded?
Because none of the other sexual prohibitions have been discarded.

Mykael is right. We are no longer bound by mosaic law (Acts 10). That being said, As far as extramarital sexual relations (specifically homosexuality) are concerned, they are referenced as sin in the New Testament as well.

In some states, homosexuals can marry. Is it still sin?
Laws != sins
He said "extramarital," and if you have sex with your spouse, it's not extramarital.

I never got an answer for this. Any takers?
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Here's an explanation for ya. Lurk moar. Every single point you brought up has been posted, reposted, debated and debunked. There is a search function on this forum, and it is very easy to use.

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Re: Random Political Comic thread
« Reply #473 on: March 10, 2010, 04:11:13 AM »
I will give that there is probably nothing inherently wrong with incest. but from a physiological stand point I am guessing it is not healthy.

Some would say the same about Onanism.
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Re: Random Political Comic thread
« Reply #474 on: March 10, 2010, 05:05:38 AM »
CR90, one last chance to salvage credibility: Explain your moral objections to non-reproductive incest.
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« Reply #475 on: March 10, 2010, 08:04:51 AM »
However, many Christians today claim that homosexuality is a sin and that God considers it wrong. When asked for the Scriptural foundation for this, they will invariably cite Leviticus 18:22.

Quote from: Leviticus 18:22
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Why is this verse still considered applicable, even though the rest of the Mosaic Law has been discarded?
Because none of the other sexual prohibitions have been discarded.

Mykael is right. We are no longer bound by mosaic law (Acts 10). That being said, As far as extramarital sexual relations (specifically homosexuality) are concerned, they are referenced as sin in the New Testament as well.

In some states, homosexuals can marry. Is it still sin?
Laws != sins
He said "extramarital," and if you have sex with your spouse, it's not extramarital.

I never got an answer for this. Any takers?
I believe canadark quoted scripture that specified heterosexual marriage.
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Christianrocker90

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Re: Random Political Comic thread
« Reply #476 on: March 10, 2010, 09:03:37 PM »
CR90, one last chance to salvage credibility: Explain your moral objections to non-reproductive incest.

It's still incest and loving you sister (or brother) in a sexual way is gross the fact you think it isn't troubles me about your morals.

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Re: Random Political Comic thread
« Reply #477 on: March 10, 2010, 09:10:27 PM »
CR90, one last chance to salvage credibility: Explain your moral objections to non-reproductive incest.

It's still incest and loving you sister (or brother) in a sexual way is gross the fact you think it isn't troubles me about your morals.
disturbing/gross/disgusting!=morally wrong
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« Reply #478 on: March 10, 2010, 09:47:29 PM »
Now I'm in trouble.



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Chris Spaghetti

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Re: Random Political Comic thread
« Reply #479 on: March 11, 2010, 01:29:37 AM »
CR90, one last chance to salvage credibility: Explain your moral objections to non-reproductive incest.

It's still incest and loving you sister (or brother) in a sexual way is gross the fact you think it isn't troubles me about your morals.

*grits teeth* but why is it morally wrong? I think going camping in the woods and not washing properly for a week is disgusting but it's clearly not a moral evil. I think that playing loud music on the bus is irritating  but it isn't a moral evil. Now answer the damn question!