NASA and its different Hoaxes to deceive the public

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NASA and its different Hoaxes to deceive the public
« on: January 07, 2010, 08:19:11 PM »
Ok lets use this thread to outline the different hoaxes of NASA.

Also is there verifiable evidence to support a case for NASA being primarily created as a disinformation branch of the USA military?

Lets take the supposed images of the Earth, as supposedly taken from close-Earth orbit. Now there is a big problem I have always seen with satellite TV feeds, which are few and far between, they are mostly controlled by the military, and are not very reliable/truthful images at all. Also anyone with any brains, can see that they are cheap simulations of a round, rotating globe. Things like this have always disgruntled myself, anyone who looks at these video images, can plainly see one specific spot on these small fake models where a hot-spot lamp light reflection is seen. If these supposed images of Earth were real, a very specific light reflection hot-spot would never be seen. Also they look like they are made of plastic and have a very artificial look to them, with no Earth atmosphere glow at all.

Take a look at this Apollo 17 image, the famous 'Marble Earth' photo AS17-148-2272-"Full Earth" photographed during lunar coast
http://www.apolloarchive.com/apg_thumbnail.php?ptr=217&imageID=AS17-148-22726
Now save that HR image onto your computer, then make it bigger, turn it up-side-down, then look at that raised 'ice' section of the ridge of Antarctica. This part alone reveals this to be a fake Earth model that was used for this Apollo 17 photo.


Let us move onto supposed space images that NASA says are from things like the Hubble 'space' telescope. I have concluded that the Hubble telescope is one almighty con-job, and is a pure work of mythical fiction. The bright, very colorful, highly in focused images are truly impossible for any telescope in existence to have ever taken. 'Dreamland', Area 51, is where these sci-fi pretty picture works of cock'n'bull fiction are created. Just look at any of these 'photos' that NASA releases, the depth of perception, and even shadowing in the images are truly impossible for any real telescope to produce. The truth is, a small area of the heavens is chosen, then Area 51 Dreamland imagineers, dream up what should be in that specific space of heaven. After all, who is to prove NASA wrong, because no one else can actually reproduce what NASA have released, to back up their fantasy claims.

The faked Mars orbits & landings can be included, along with the carefully constructed work of fiction-'Voyagers'. The fact that no men or women anywhere, have ever actually gone into out of space for real. Empty, light-weight space shuttle shells taking off into space. Simulated TV footage of the astronauts inside the space shuttle shaking around. Anyone can look at some of those videos, and can easily see that none of those 'shuttle astronauts' were experiencing any 'G'-forces, when they were so easily moving their hands and arms around.

What else would others like to cover and investigate, to add to the list? There are a multitude of hoaxed photos produced by NASA besides that above Apollo 17 'Marble Earth' photo. The Apollo NASA images are full of so many mistakes, it defies logic to believe in NASA's moon landing fantasy as being real.

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Re: NASA and its different Hoaxes to deceive the public
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2010, 08:49:38 PM »
mr. p's a real troll. ignore him truth seeker. i think u raise some valid points by the way.

"Let us move onto supposed space images that NASA says are from things like the Hubble 'space' telescope. I have concluded that the Hubble telescope is one almighty con-job, and is a pure work of mythical fiction. The bright, very colorful, highly in focused images are truly impossible for any telescope in existence to have ever taken. 'Dreamland', Area 51, is where these sci-fi pretty picture works of cock'n'bull fiction are created. Just look at any of these 'photos' that NASA releases, the depth of perception, and even shadowing in the images are truly impossible for any real telescope to produce. The truth is, a small area of the heavens is chosen, then Area 51 Dreamland imagineers, dream up what should be in that specific space of heaven. After all, who is to prove NASA wrong, because no one else can actually reproduce what NASA have released, to back up their fantasy claims."

right there is truth bcause ur right. with history all different kinds of historians can eexamine each others claims. but not with astronomy and nasa. no ones got nasa technology therefore nasa are always in control

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Re: NASA and its different Hoaxes to deceive the public
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2010, 09:05:05 PM »
mr. p's a real troll. ignore him truth seeker. i think u raise some valid points by the way.

"Let us move onto supposed space images that NASA says are from things like the Hubble 'space' telescope. I have concluded that the Hubble telescope is one almighty con-job, and is a pure work of mythical fiction. The bright, very colorful, highly in focused images are truly impossible for any telescope in existence to have ever taken. 'Dreamland', Area 51, is where these sci-fi pretty picture works of cock'n'bull fiction are created. Just look at any of these 'photos' that NASA releases, the depth of perception, and even shadowing in the images are truly impossible for any real telescope to produce. The truth is, a small area of the heavens is chosen, then Area 51 Dreamland imagineers, dream up what should be in that specific space of heaven. After all, who is to prove NASA wrong, because no one else can actually reproduce what NASA have released, to back up their fantasy claims."

right there is truth bcause ur right. with history all different kinds of historians can eexamine each others claims. but not with astronomy and nasa. no ones got nasa technology therefore nasa are always in control
"nasa technology", is made up fictional technology which NASA does not really possess. Other nation's leaders may openly clap their hands to NASA's make-believe amazing technology, even though secretly they laugh, knowing it is all a work of Disneyland/Hollywood fiction.

The whole of deep space exploration, is a carefully scripted work of fiction. Take the fictional Apollo moon landings, all of the so-called believable science that 'shows' how NASA were able to send men to the moon and home to Earth again, can sound plausible. However all the 'made-up' fictional NASA science of space travel, can never really be proven to be true by any other nations; Because those other nations are not able to send any humans to the moon to test, or prove that NASA's made up fictional science is true or not.

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Re: NASA and its different Hoaxes to deceive the public
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2010, 09:10:06 PM »
i agree with that. but they got the technology and power 2 cover stuff up. but i agree they nvr went 2 moon

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Re: NASA and its different Hoaxes to deceive the public
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2010, 09:19:51 PM »
Don't forget Star Trek 3. That was both faked and phoned in.


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Re: NASA and its different Hoaxes to deceive the public
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2010, 09:39:59 PM »
i agree with that. but they got the technology and power 2 cover stuff up. but i agree they nvr went 2 moon
Yes, plenty of worthless trolls on this site, just like the poster after yourself.

Here is an analogy to give to worthless NASA moon landing believers, when they demand that you must prove with 'Science' that the Apollo astronauts never landed on the moon.

'I've invented a machine that digs all the way to the center of the Earth, I've done it, just believe me.

I did it many times in the 1960s & 1970s. Only myself and a very small group understand and can explain all the science involved in accomplishing it. Only myself and the small group of scientists decide how the small details of the science all works.

However no one else except for myself and my small group of scientists can prove, or can actually evidence that all this science we say works in practice and in the real location of going to the middle of the Earth and back to the surface.

Since no one else can replicate what we have done, our word alone will have to be trusted to be truthful and accurate as to the truth of all the science we say is true for achieving what we say we have done.

However if you don't understand all the believable science we say is true, that just means that we are smarter than you.'


The thing is, only a couple of years ago, a Russian politician, told off a Russian space agency manager, who boasted that Russia would soon launch a grand scheme to land on the moon and mars.

The Russian politician basically admitted that they had no idea where to even begin in regards to sending men into deep-space, to the moon, and beyond. The politician explained that, if they have no knowledge of the major unknown obstacles to space travel, how in the hell could they even begin to contemplate even beginning to send men into space.

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Re: NASA and its different Hoaxes to deceive the public
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2010, 09:57:50 PM »
The Russian politician basically admitted that they had no idea where to even begin in regards to sending men into deep-space, to the moon, and beyond. The politician explained that, if they have no knowledge of the major unknown obstacles to space travel, how in the hell could they even begin to contemplate even beginning to send men into space.

Indeed.

Re: NASA and its different Hoaxes to deceive the public
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2010, 10:30:21 PM »
Ok lets use this thread to outline the different hoaxes of NASA.

Also is there verifiable evidence to support a case for NASA being primarily created as a disinformation branch of the USA military?


None.


Lets take the supposed images of the Earth, as supposedly taken from close-Earth orbit. Now there is a big problem I have always seen with satellite TV feeds, which are few and far between, they are mostly controlled by the military, and are not very reliable/truthful images at all.


They are not reliable because they are controlled by the military? Do you have proof of this?


 Also anyone with any brains, can see that they are cheap simulations of a round, rotating globe. Things like this have always disgruntled myself, anyone who looks at these video images, can plainly see one specific spot on these small fake models where a hot-spot lamp light reflection is seen. If these supposed images of Earth were real, a very specific light reflection hot-spot would never be seen. Also they look like they are made of plastic and have a very artificial look to them, with no Earth atmosphere glow at all.


The scientific consensus is that these photos are not doctored images. This argument suffers from the straw man fallacy.


Take a look at this Apollo 17 image, the famous 'Marble Earth' photo AS17-148-2272-"Full Earth" photographed during lunar coast
http://www.apolloarchive.com/apg_thumbnail.php?ptr=217&imageID=AS17-148-22726
Now save that HR image onto your computer, then make it bigger, turn it up-side-down, then look at that raised 'ice' section of the ridge of Antarctica. This part alone reveals this to be a fake Earth model that was used for this Apollo 17 photo.



I think you are referring to the Antarctic coastline, but I'm not quite sure what you are trying to say here.


Let us move onto supposed space images that NASA says are from things like the Hubble 'space' telescope. I have concluded that the Hubble telescope is one almighty con-job, and is a pure work of mythical fiction. The bright, very colorful, highly in focused images are truly impossible for any telescope in existence to have ever taken. 'Dreamland', Area 51, is where these sci-fi pretty picture works of cock'n'bull fiction are created. Just look at any of these 'photos' that NASA releases, the depth of perception, and even shadowing in the images are truly impossible for any real telescope to produce. The truth is, a small area of the heavens is chosen, then Area 51 Dreamland imagineers, dream up what should be in that specific space of heaven. After all, who is to prove NASA wrong, because no one else can actually reproduce what NASA have released, to back up their fantasy claims.


Do you have any proof beyond speculation that Hubble is "one almighty con-job"? Because once again, the scientific consensus says otherwise, and you will recall that at first Hubble DID have major problems taking photos in outer space until its lens was replaced.


The faked Mars orbits & landings can be included, along with the carefully constructed work of fiction-'Voyagers'. The fact that no men or women anywhere, have ever actually gone into out of space for real. Empty, light-weight space shuttle shells taking off into space. Simulated TV footage of the astronauts inside the space shuttle shaking around. Anyone can look at some of those videos, and can easily see that none of those 'shuttle astronauts' were experiencing any 'G'-forces, when they were so easily moving their hands and arms around.


Can you be more specific? Please link to these videos so that we can discuss them more in depth.


What else would others like to cover and investigate, to add to the list? There are a multitude of hoaxed photos produced by NASA besides that above Apollo 17 'Marble Earth' photo. The Apollo NASA images are full of so many mistakes, it defies logic to believe in NASA's moon landing fantasy as being real.

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You have not given concrete evidence to support your conspiracy theory beyond wild speculation. To be taken seriously you ought to provide more primary and secondary sources (videos, photos, testimonies etc.) that support your thesis, that NASA has been involved in a multitude of "hoaxes to deceive the public".
There is evidence for a NASA conspiracy. Please search.

Re: NASA and its different Hoaxes to deceive the public
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2010, 10:37:19 PM »

Yes, plenty of worthless trolls on this site, just like the poster after yourself.



Here is an analogy to give to worthless NASA moon landing believers, when they demand that you must prove with 'Science' that the Apollo astronauts never landed on the moon.

'I've invented a machine that digs all the way to the center of the Earth, I've done it, just believe me.

I did it many times in the 1960s & 1970s. Only myself and a very small group understand and can explain all the science involved in accomplishing it. Only myself and the small group of scientists decide how the small details of the science all works.

However no one else except for myself and my small group of scientists can prove, or can actually evidence that all this science we say works in practice and in the real location of going to the middle of the Earth and back to the surface.

Since no one else can replicate what we have done, our word alone will have to be trusted to be truthful and accurate as to the truth of all the science we say is true for achieving what we say we have done.

However if you don't understand all the believable science we say is true, that just means that we are smarter than you.'


This is a poor analogy. NASA employs more than just a "small group of scientists" and a conspiracy on the scale of which you are speaking would involve thousands more from around the world. Give me photographic, physical, documented, peer-reviewed evidence of your journey to the centre of the Earth (like NASA has done), and I will believe you. Analogies need to come back down to Earth, and yours didn't even get off the ground.


The thing is, only a couple of years ago, a Russian politician, told off a Russian space agency manager, who boasted that Russia would soon launch a grand scheme to land on the moon and mars.

The Russian politician basically admitted that they had no idea where to even begin in regards to sending men into deep-space, to the moon, and beyond. The politician explained that, if they have no knowledge of the major unknown obstacles to space travel, how in the hell could they even begin to contemplate even beginning to send men into space.

This is where I put my political studies hat on and tell you, "Don't read too much into it. This is Russia being Russia."
There is evidence for a NASA conspiracy. Please search.

Re: NASA and its different Hoaxes to deceive the public
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2010, 07:39:35 PM »
Guys, give me proof that all of the things they do are fake please, just saying it is doesn't amuse me.

Re: NASA and its different Hoaxes to deceive the public
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2010, 11:47:42 PM »
Guys, give me proof that all of the things they do are fake please, just saying it is doesn't amuse me.

There is no proof of a conspiracy. They will never provide any. They will only continue to say that the burden of proof is on us because they are the skeptics, and when you hold a minority view you have no responsibility to back up what you say, or else resort to circular logic.

 "The Earth is flat, therefore NASA is part of a round Earth conspiracy, therefore the Earth must be flat"
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Re: NASA and its different Hoaxes to deceive the public
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2010, 09:47:12 AM »
No proof then. The earth is round, prove me wrong.

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Re: NASA and its different Hoaxes to deceive the public
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2010, 10:09:46 AM »
tl;dr
Thanks for adding to the discussion.  ::)
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« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2010, 07:09:08 AM »
tl;dr


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Re: NASA and its different Hoaxes to deceive the public
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2010, 08:11:24 AM »
tl;dr


Please keep low-content posting out of the upper boards.
Will do. It's just I thought this would be moved to the 'lower' boards.

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Re: NASA and its different Hoaxes to deceive the public
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2010, 06:53:50 AM »
Also anyone with any brains, can see that they are cheap simulations of a round, rotating globe. Things like this have always disgruntled myself, anyone who looks at these video images, can plainly see one specific spot on these small fake models where a hot-spot lamp light reflection is seen. If these supposed images of Earth were real, a very specific light reflection hot-spot would never be seen. Also they look like they are made of plastic and have a very artificial look to them, with no Earth atmosphere glow at all.

Just a quick contradiction you might want to consider, Truth Seeker. You say the images of the earth look fake, and cite the specific light conditions and a lack of "earth atmosphere glow" but what is your frame of reference for what the earth should look like?

The only point of comparison you have would be other images of earth taken from space, which you claim are also all fake.

So in order to prove that one particular image of the earth is fake, you have to acknowledge that other images are real in order to provide a point of comparison.

Just a thought.

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Re: NASA and its different Hoaxes to deceive the public
« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2010, 02:12:30 PM »
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Let us move onto supposed space images that NASA says are from things like the Hubble 'space' telescope. I have concluded that the Hubble telescope is one almighty con-job, and is a pure work of mythical fiction. The bright, very colorful, highly in focused images are truly impossible for any telescope in existence to have ever taken. 'Dreamland', Area 51, is where these sci-fi pretty picture works of cock'n'bull fiction are created. Just look at any of these 'photos' that NASA releases, the depth of perception, and even shadowing in the images are truly impossible for any real telescope to produce. The truth is, a small area of the heavens is chosen, then Area 51 Dreamland imagineers, dream up what should be in that specific space of heaven. After all, who is to prove NASA wrong, because no one else can actually reproduce what NASA have released, to back up their fantasy claims.

They add colors to show different kinds of radiation/to make them pretty they aren't taken like that.

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Re: NASA and its different Hoaxes to deceive the public
« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2010, 04:56:23 PM »
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Let us move onto supposed space images that NASA says are from things like the Hubble 'space' telescope. I have concluded that the Hubble telescope is one almighty con-job, and is a pure work of mythical fiction. The bright, very colorful, highly in focused images are truly impossible for any telescope in existence to have ever taken. 'Dreamland', Area 51, is where these sci-fi pretty picture works of cock'n'bull fiction are created. Just look at any of these 'photos' that NASA releases, the depth of perception, and even shadowing in the images are truly impossible for any real telescope to produce. The truth is, a small area of the heavens is chosen, then Area 51 Dreamland imagineers, dream up what should be in that specific space of heaven. After all, who is to prove NASA wrong, because no one else can actually reproduce what NASA have released, to back up their fantasy claims.

They add colors to show different kinds of radiation/to make them pretty they aren't taken like that.

So the scientists add colors to the pictures to make them pretty. Couldn't we save a few hundred billion dollars and pay some artists to paint pretty pictures, instead of taking pictures of swirly light in the sky and then adding artificial color to sex them up?

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Re: NASA and its different Hoaxes to deceive the public
« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2010, 05:04:10 PM »
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Let us move onto supposed space images that NASA says are from things like the Hubble 'space' telescope. I have concluded that the Hubble telescope is one almighty con-job, and is a pure work of mythical fiction. The bright, very colorful, highly in focused images are truly impossible for any telescope in existence to have ever taken. 'Dreamland', Area 51, is where these sci-fi pretty picture works of cock'n'bull fiction are created. Just look at any of these 'photos' that NASA releases, the depth of perception, and even shadowing in the images are truly impossible for any real telescope to produce. The truth is, a small area of the heavens is chosen, then Area 51 Dreamland imagineers, dream up what should be in that specific space of heaven. After all, who is to prove NASA wrong, because no one else can actually reproduce what NASA have released, to back up their fantasy claims.

They add colors to show different kinds of radiation/to make them pretty they aren't taken like that.

So the scientists add colors to the pictures to make them pretty. Couldn't we save a few hundred billion dollars and pay some artists to paint pretty pictures, instead of taking pictures of swirly light in the sky and then adding artificial color to sex them up?

Actually, the colors do mean something in a scientific context, as you pointed out in another thread.
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Re: NASA and its different Hoaxes to deceive the public
« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2010, 10:38:38 PM »
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Let us move onto supposed space images that NASA says are from things like the Hubble 'space' telescope. I have concluded that the Hubble telescope is one almighty con-job, and is a pure work of mythical fiction. The bright, very colorful, highly in focused images are truly impossible for any telescope in existence to have ever taken. 'Dreamland', Area 51, is where these sci-fi pretty picture works of cock'n'bull fiction are created. Just look at any of these 'photos' that NASA releases, the depth of perception, and even shadowing in the images are truly impossible for any real telescope to produce. The truth is, a small area of the heavens is chosen, then Area 51 Dreamland imagineers, dream up what should be in that specific space of heaven. After all, who is to prove NASA wrong, because no one else can actually reproduce what NASA have released, to back up their fantasy claims.

They add colors to show different kinds of radiation/to make them pretty they aren't taken like that.

So the scientists add colors to the pictures to make them pretty. Couldn't we save a few hundred billion dollars and pay some artists to paint pretty pictures, instead of taking pictures of swirly light in the sky and then adding artificial color to sex them up?

u mean the billions stuffed into nasas pockets while some guys in a room with a comp photoshop this crap?

Actually, the colors do mean something in a scientific context, as you pointed out in another thread.

Re: NASA and its different Hoaxes to deceive the public
« Reply #20 on: January 15, 2010, 09:07:48 AM »
Again, new here...not a troll.

Bart Sibrel has demonstrated in two of his documentaries "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon" and "Astronauts Gone Wild" actual video footage of Armstrong, Aldrin, and Collins faking the image of the earth seen from deep space using an unlit interior cabin and a circular window on the Apollo's hull.  I'm sure it has been brought up before but I think it deserves some attention in this thread.  I don't see how anyone who sees the footage and hears the audio of them rehearsing the video for playback later can still believe that Apollo 11 at least went to the moon.  It is my firm belief that no man made it to the moon in the 1960's or early 70's.  Youtube it.

Re: NASA and its different Hoaxes to deceive the public
« Reply #21 on: January 15, 2010, 03:31:30 PM »
Again, new here...not a troll.

Bart Sibrel has demonstrated in two of his documentaries "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon" and "Astronauts Gone Wild" actual video footage of Armstrong, Aldrin, and Collins faking the image of the earth seen from deep space using an unlit interior cabin and a circular window on the Apollo's hull.  I'm sure it has been brought up before but I think it deserves some attention in this thread.  I don't see how anyone who sees the footage and hears the audio of them rehearsing the video for playback later can still believe that Apollo 11 at least went to the moon.  It is my firm belief that no man made it to the moon in the 1960's or early 70's.  Youtube it.
Why don't you " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">YouTube it?
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Re: NASA and its different Hoaxes to deceive the public
« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2010, 04:13:05 PM »
That's a great video, but you think I'm regarding Bart Sibrel as god with all the answers which is simply untrue.  The radiation belts were also conveniently ignored...his number one argument in the videotape presented is completely ignored.  Also, have you actually SEEN the footage of neil, buzz and collins using the window to fake the distance of the earth in accordance with deep space travel..or was that a convenient ignorance as well?

Re: NASA and its different Hoaxes to deceive the public
« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2010, 08:23:18 PM »
Again, new here...not a troll.

Bart Sibrel has demonstrated in two of his documentaries "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon" and "Astronauts Gone Wild" actual video footage of Armstrong, Aldrin, and Collins faking the image of the earth seen from deep space using an unlit interior cabin and a circular window on the Apollo's hull.  I'm sure it has been brought up before but I think it deserves some attention in this thread.  I don't see how anyone who sees the footage and hears the audio of them rehearsing the video for playback later can still believe that Apollo 11 at least went to the moon.  It is my firm belief that no man made it to the moon in the 1960's or early 70's.  Youtube it.

Straw man fallacy:

"I can't BELIEVE that you would be so stupid..."
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Re: NASA and its different Hoaxes to deceive the public
« Reply #24 on: January 15, 2010, 10:48:43 PM »
That's a great video, but you think I'm regarding Bart Sibrel as god with all the answers which is simply untrue.  The radiation belts were also conveniently ignored...his number one argument in the videotape presented is completely ignored.  Also, have you actually SEEN the footage of neil, buzz and collins using the window to fake the distance of the earth in accordance with deep space travel..or was that a convenient ignorance as well?
No, I don't think you're regarding him as a god. Where did I say that? I'm just saying those videos aren't very trustworthy.
How were they conveniently ignored? I thought the argument in that video was that the video was taped on the same set and has audio that suggests that it was all staged, and that video shows it wasn't faked.
Also, is " class="bbc_link" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">this what you're talking about?
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Re: NASA and its different Hoaxes to deceive the public
« Reply #25 on: January 16, 2010, 07:24:10 AM »
I never brought anything up about the supposed footage imposed over another clip or the audio not matching up with Sibrel's claims...totally irrelevant.

And that video you posted shows nothing, which I suspect was your goal.  Have you watched anything I have directed you towards?  Because I watched everything you presented.

The REAL incriminating footage ONCE AGAIN is featured on "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon" and doesn't just show a window as your video does.  It CLEARLY shows all 3 "astronauts" using a cut out transparency crescent set up over the circular window (you can see their arms, the piece of cloth, and when they turn the lights back on...their faces and the true camera perspective) to simulate their distance from the earth.

Also explain why so many "moon walking" astronauts had so much trouble swearing on the Bible they walked on the moon.

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Re: NASA and its different Hoaxes to deceive the public
« Reply #26 on: January 16, 2010, 09:22:22 AM »
Also explain why so many "moon walking" astronauts had so much trouble swearing on the Bible they walked on the moon.

Maybe because they didn't appreciate being publicly ambushed by someone calling them liars.  Perhaps if Sibrel had the least bit of class, he might have gotten different results.
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Re: NASA and its different Hoaxes to deceive the public
« Reply #27 on: January 17, 2010, 04:50:31 PM »
I never brought anything up about the supposed footage imposed over another clip or the audio not matching up with Sibrel's claims...totally irrelevant.

And that video you posted shows nothing, which I suspect was your goal.  Have you watched anything I have directed you towards?  Because I watched everything you presented.

The REAL incriminating footage ONCE AGAIN is featured on "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon" and doesn't just show a window as your video does.  It CLEARLY shows all 3 "astronauts" using a cut out transparency crescent set up over the circular window (you can see their arms, the piece of cloth, and when they turn the lights back on...their faces and the true camera perspective) to simulate their distance from the earth.

Also explain why so many "moon walking" astronauts had so much trouble swearing on the Bible they walked on the moon.
Not really irrelevant. I was bringing up that he's not all that trustworthy. I don't see why you don't get that.

Why should I watch something that has been proven to be untrustworthy?

YouTube clip please?

Markjo summed up what I think, as well.
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Re: NASA and its different Hoaxes to deceive the public
« Reply #28 on: February 21, 2010, 08:50:25 PM »
Guys, give me proof that all of the things they do are fake please, just saying it is doesn't amuse me.

There is no proof of a conspiracy. They will never provide any. They will only continue to say that the burden of proof is on us because they are the skeptics, and when you hold a minority view you have no responsibility to back up what you say, or else resort to circular logic.

 "The Earth is flat, therefore NASA is part of a round Earth conspiracy, therefore the Earth must be flat"
Multitudes of proof has been provided, except ones like yourself just casually say "No, that's not proof".

Well the following is proof from NASA's very own official video that the 'empty' Apollo 7-Saturn V rocket and module were blown up just after launch.

"Moon Landing Hoax Apollo 7 : Module and Rocket Explode -Astronauts in Vomit Comet Plane"


However ones like jumping spiderman will say, "that is no proof!" Even though everyone viewing the NASA official video can see with their own two eyes, the Apollo 7-Saturn V rocket and module going up in flames as it suddenly descends downwards Earth.

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Re: NASA and its different Hoaxes to deceive the public
« Reply #29 on: February 21, 2010, 09:26:41 PM »
Well the following is proof from NASA's very own official video that the 'empty' Apollo 7-Saturn V rocket and module were blown up just after launch.

"Moon Landing Hoax Apollo 7 : Module and Rocket Explode -Astronauts in Vomit Comet Plane"


However ones like jumping spiderman will say, "that is no proof!" Even though everyone viewing the NASA official video can see with their own two eyes, the Apollo 7-Saturn V rocket and module going up in flames as it suddenly descends downwards Earth.

Ummm....  No.  The 'explosion' you see about 2:30 into the flight of Apollo 7 is the first stage separating from the rest of the rocket.  Here is a version of the launch that doesn't end at that point: 
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