A new Idea: flat earth in a sphere

Quote from: Earthslayer on December 11, 2010, 04:54:48 AM

Can you explain where we get aurora borealis, it is quite simple to figure out in the round world that it comes from radiation from sun. Do you have an answer for this

See http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=18727.0

Oh i see it is a fire fox that runs around kicking up snow and setting it on fire. I mean oboviosly what else could it be?

Quote from: FlatEarthInSphere on December 11, 2010, 09:16:40 AM

Quote from: Earthslayer on December 11, 2010, 04:54:48 AM

Can you explain where we get aurora borealis, it is quite simple to figure out in the round world that it comes from radiation from sun. Do you have an answer for this

See http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=18727.0

Oh i see it is a fire fox that runs around kicking up snow and setting it on fire. I mean obviously what else could it be?

Could be that, could be something else. I guess the short answer is: We just don't know.

Quote from: Earthslayer on December 11, 2010, 02:43:19 PM

Quote from: FlatEarthInSphere on December 11, 2010, 09:16:40 AM

Quote from: Earthslayer on December 11, 2010, 04:54:48 AM

Can you explain where we get aurora borealis, it is quite simple to figure out in the round world that it comes from radiation from sun. Do you have an answer for this

See http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=18727.0

Oh i see it is a fire fox that runs around kicking up snow and setting it on fire. I mean obviously what else could it be

Could be that, could be something else. I guess the short answer is: We just don't know.

Has there ever been a recorded sighting of the "edge" of the world

Quote from: FlatEarthInSphere on December 11, 2010, 03:38:31 PM

Quote from: Earthslayer on December 11, 2010, 02:43:19 PM

Quote from: FlatEarthInSphere on December 11, 2010, 09:16:40 AM

Quote from: Earthslayer on December 11, 2010, 04:54:48 AM

Can you explain where we get aurora borealis, it is quite simple to figure out in the round world that it comes from radiation from sun. Do you have an answer for this

See http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=18727.0

Oh i see it is a fire fox that runs around kicking up snow and setting it on fire. I mean obviously what else could it be

Could be that, could be something else. I guess the short answer is: We just don't know.

Has there ever been a recorded sighting of the "edge" of the world

Allegedly, a forum member went as far as Argentina and was not allowed to go further.

Allegedly, a forum member went as far as Argentina and was not allowed to go further.

Really? My aunt personally went to Antarctica and she found no edge whatsoever. I highly doubt she is part of this "conspiracy". If you believe so, then you are basically saying the government bribed millions of people, not just ones within NASA.

Quote from: Horatio on December 11, 2010, 04:46:45 PM

Allegedly, a forum member went as far as Argentina and was not allowed to go further.

Really? My aunt personally went to Antarctica and she found no edge whatsoever. I highly doubt she is part of this "conspiracy". If you believe so, then you are basically saying the government bribed millions of people, not just ones within NASA.

I'm not sure how fit your aunt is, but did she really sail all the way down there, pass all the ice, and climb up to the so-called plateau all by herself? If not I would not consider this exactly rock solid evidence. We all know that air travel to Antarctica is strictly regulated by the government. I wonder why. 

The Aurora Borealis is still an issue with this issue, and FET in general...

Quote from: TheUnseenForce on December 11, 2010, 05:02:18 PM

Quote from: Horatio on December 11, 2010, 04:46:45 PM

Allegedly, a forum member went as far as Argentina and was not allowed to go further.

Really? My aunt personally went to Antarctica and she found no edge whatsoever. I highly doubt she is part of this "conspiracy". If you believe so, then you are basically saying the government bribed millions of people, not just ones within NASA.

I'm not sure how fit your aunt is, but did she really sail all the way down there, pass all the ice, and climb up to the so-called plateau all by herself? If not I would not consider this exactly rock solid evidence. We all know that air travel to Antarctica is strictly regulated by the government. I wonder why. 

She was an engineer that was allowed to go there on a boat for scientific research. If there was a huge wall, why would boats go there in the first place? We already have many science bases throughout Anarctica.

Quote from: FlatEarthInSphere on December 12, 2010, 04:19:10 AM

Quote from: TheUnseenForce on December 11, 2010, 05:02:18 PM

Quote from: Horatio on December 11, 2010, 04:46:45 PM

Allegedly, a forum member went as far as Argentina and was not allowed to go further.

Really? My aunt personally went to Antarctica and she found no edge whatsoever. I highly doubt she is part of this "conspiracy". If you believe so, then you are basically saying the government bribed millions of people, not just ones within NASA.

I'm not sure how fit your aunt is, but did she really sail all the way down there, pass all the ice, and climb up to the so-called plateau all by herself? If not I would not consider this exactly rock solid evidence. We all know that air travel to Antarctica is strictly regulated by the government. I wonder why. 

She was an engineer that was allowed to go there on a boat for scientific research. If there was a huge wall, why would boats go there in the first place? We already have many science bases throughout Anarctica.

I guess the wall look like the ascent to a "plateau".

Quote from: Earthslayer on December 11, 2010, 03:43:13 PM

Quote from: FlatEarthInSphere on December 11, 2010, 03:38:31 PM

Quote from: Earthslayer on December 11, 2010, 02:43:19 PM

Quote from: FlatEarthInSphere on December 11, 2010, 09:16:40 AM

Quote from: Earthslayer on December 11, 2010, 04:54:48 AM

Can you explain where we get aurora borealis, it is quite simple to figure out in the round world that it comes from radiation from sun. Do you have an answer for this

See http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=18727.0

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Oh i see it is a fire fox that runs around kicking up snow and setting it on fire. I mean obviously what else could it be

Could be that, could be something else. I guess the short answer is: We just don't know.

Has there ever been a recorded sighting of the "edge" of the world

Allegedly, a forum member went as far as Argentina and was not allowed to go further.

So your saying that you don't have any conclusive evidence supporting your theory? Not only is there no evidence towards a flat earth there is infinite evidence for round earth. Does anybody have an actual image of flat earth if so please post, I have not seen an actual image of flat earth ever! I have only witnesed fake artists rendition of the flat earth

Quote from: Horatio on December 11, 2010, 04:46:45 PM

Quote from: Earthslayer on December 11, 2010, 03:43:13 PM

Quote from: FlatEarthInSphere on December 11, 2010, 03:38:31 PM

Quote from: Earthslayer on December 11, 2010, 02:43:19 PM

Quote from: FlatEarthInSphere on December 11, 2010, 09:16:40 AM

Quote from: Earthslayer on December 11, 2010, 04:54:48 AM

Can you explain where we get aurora borealis, it is quite simple to figure out in the round world that it comes from radiation from sun. Do you have an answer for this

See http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=18727.0

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Oh i see it is a fire fox that runs around kicking up snow and setting it on fire. I mean obviously what else could it be

Could be that, could be something else. I guess the short answer is: We just don't know.

Has there ever been a recorded sighting of the "edge" of the world

Allegedly, a forum member went as far as Argentina and was not allowed to go further.

So your saying that you don't have any conclusive evidence supporting your theory? Not only is there no evidence towards a flat earth there is infinite evidence for round earth. Does anybody have an actual image of flat earth if so please post, I have not seen an actual image of flat earth ever! I have only witnesed fake artists rendition of the flat earth

Images may not be used as evidence.

Images may not be used as evidence.

Why not?  They're used in courts of law all the time as evidence.

Quote from: Earthslayer on December 13, 2010, 03:26:19 PM

Quote from: Horatio on December 11, 2010, 04:46:45 PM

Quote from: Earthslayer on December 11, 2010, 03:43:13 PM

Quote from: FlatEarthInSphere on December 11, 2010, 03:38:31 PM

Quote from: Earthslayer on December 11, 2010, 02:43:19 PM

Quote from: FlatEarthInSphere on December 11, 2010, 09:16:40 AM

Quote from: Earthslayer on December 11, 2010, 04:54:48 AM

Can you explain where we get aurora borealis, it is quite simple to figure out in the round world that it comes from radiation from sun. Do you have an answer for this

See http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=18727.0

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Oh i see it is a fire fox that runs around kicking up snow and setting it on fire. I mean obviously what else could it be

Could be that, could be something else. I guess the short answer is: We just don't know.

Has there ever been a recorded sighting of the "edge" of the world

Allegedly, a forum member went as far as Argentina and was not allowed to go further.

So your saying that you don't have any conclusive evidence supporting your theory? Not only is there no evidence towards a flat earth there is infinite evidence for round earth. Does anybody have an actual image of flat earth if so please post, I have not seen an actual image of flat earth ever! I have only witnesed fake artists rendition of the flat earth

Images may not be used as evidence.

Why are you afraid to be wrong

My last thread was unfortunately moved to the nonsense section http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=35416.20. I do however realize that the presentation of the theory could have been clearer, and I apologize for that. I have however now provided an illustration of my theory, and hopefully you will see that this is a serious attempt to explain what seems to me to be a major problem in FET.

The problem is to explain where the energy from the UA comes from. To me, attributing this to the Dark Force just does not seem very convincing. I therefore developed a theory where UA is in fact a result of centripetal acceleration. Such an explanation will increase the credibility of FET, in addition of course to being more reasonable in my mind.



As you see from the illustration, I believe the most likely explanation is that the flat earth resides inside on the bottom of a rotating sphere (on a giant turtle, two elephants or whatever). The rotation of the sphere then provides the centripetal acceleration that we from the inside of the sphere experience as gravity.

If we now in addition assume that the flat earth slides around, rotating, inside the sphere, and assume that stars are small holes in this giant ball, then we can explain the rotating stars in the night sky. The sun can also then be easily explained as a rolling ball inside the sphere that rolls below the horizon (end of the world) at night (assuming the flat earth is elevated in some way, possibly by giant animals).

This looks like the epicycles of the geocentric model. New physics is required here.

not sure if this has been mentioned here, there were too many off-topic posts on this thread to read through, but the radius of the earth's motion in this model can be calculated from the acceleration due to gravity (9.81m/s²) and the angular velocity of the earth.  (2pi radians / 24 hours = 7.27 * 10^-5 radians per second)
a_c = rw_c²
9.81m/s² = r * ((7.27 * 10^-5)rad/s)²
r = 1.86 * 10⁹m = 1.86 million km

So for any debates on how large the radius would be, here is your answer.  Any smaller, gravity would be weaker, and any bigger it would be stronger.

not sure if this has been mentioned here, there were too many off-topic posts on this thread to read through, but the radius of the earth's motion in this model can be calculated from the acceleration due to gravity (9.81m/s²) and the angular velocity of the earth.  (2pi radians / 24 hours = 7.27 * 10^-5 radians per second)
a_c = rw_c²
9.81m/s² = r * ((7.27 * 10^-5)rad/s)²
r = 1.86 * 10⁹m = 1.86 million km

So for any debates on how large the radius would be, here is your answer.  Any smaller, gravity would be weaker, and any bigger it would be stronger.

I like your scientific approach, but how can we know that the sphere makes a complete 2pi rotation in exactly 24 hours? It's certainly not obvious from my kitchen window.

Quote from: Nolhekh on December 16, 2010, 09:49:27 AM

not sure if this has been mentioned here, there were too many off-topic posts on this thread to read through, but the radius of the earth's motion in this model can be calculated from the acceleration due to gravity (9.81m/s²) and the angular velocity of the earth.  (2pi radians / 24 hours = 7.27 * 10^-5 radians per second)
a_c = rw_c²
9.81m/s² = r * ((7.27 * 10^-5)rad/s)²
r = 1.86 * 10⁹m = 1.86 million km

So for any debates on how large the radius would be, here is your answer.  Any smaller, gravity would be weaker, and any bigger it would be stronger.

I like your scientific approach, but how can we know that the sphere makes a complete 2pi rotation in exactly 24 hours? It's certainly not obvious from my kitchen window.

it is in radians, so really 2 pi actually is one rotation (360 degrees)

it is in radians, so really 2 pi actually is one rotation (360 degrees)

And how does that answer the question?

he asked 2 pi rotations, not 1 rotation

he asked 2 pi rotations, not 1 rotation

I did not say 2 pi rotations, I said "a 2 pi rotation"  Specifying one revolution as measured in radians.
You can observe stars in the sky returning to approximately the same point every 24 hours, suggesting that if your earth is spinning within the star hole sphere you suggest, the rotation rate is 1 revolution per 24 hours. 

I also, however notice a new problem:  That the stars on the sphere would appear to grow brighter and further apart as they approach the horizon, since they are getting closer.  Also since the earth's axis of rotation runs parallel to the surface and above the surface of the earth, you should be able to see, from anywhere on the earth, two points above the horizon around which the stars appear to revolve.  This is not observed.  If you find time lapse videos or long exposures of the night sky, they always show the stars revolving around one point of revolution above the horizon, with the other point of revolution hidden below the horizon, or both points of revolution right on the horizon.

Quote from: Nolhekh on December 16, 2010, 09:49:27 AM

not sure if this has been mentioned here, there were too many off-topic posts on this thread to read through, but the radius of the earth's motion in this model can be calculated from the acceleration due to gravity (9.81m/s²) and the angular velocity of the earth.  (2pi radians / 24 hours = 7.27 * 10^-5 radians per second)
a_c = rw_c²
9.81m/s² = r * ((7.27 * 10^-5)rad/s)²
r = 1.86 * 10⁹m = 1.86 million km

So for any debates on how large the radius would be, here is your answer.  Any smaller, gravity would be weaker, and any bigger it would be stronger.

I like your scientific approach, but how can we know that the sphere makes a complete 2pi rotation in exactly 24 hours? It's certainly not obvious from my kitchen window.

sorry, but i found that ambiguous, i thought you made a typo


also, then if one were to fly in an airplane, what force makes the airplane still remain on earth?
and also, unless there is a object in the sphere that diffuses the light from the sun, everybody has day and night the same times, or when the sun is under the earth, everybody has night
and the stars would have to be a lot brighter than the sun if there is a medium in there right?
and i didnt read a explanation of sesonal changes in day/night paterns

also, then if one were to fly in an airplane, what force makes the airplane still remain on earth?
and also, unless there is a object in the sphere that diffuses the light from the sun, everybody has day and night the same times, or when the sun is under the earth, everybody has night
and the stars would have to be a lot brighter than the sun if there is a medium in there right?
and i didnt read a explanation of sesonal changes in day/night paterns

Standard FET applies for these questions.