please explain the FE theory to me

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Tom Bishop

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Re: please explain the FE theory to me
« Reply #30 on: December 28, 2009, 03:11:05 PM »
Bishop you are the one who always brings up aristotle. I like how you always deflect and can't seem to find any RE peer reviewed articles. Give me both FE and RE from science or nature or other big name journals. Those are reputable.

A reference from The English Mechanic, a scientific journal:

"The Flat Earth: another Bedford Canal experiment" (Bernard H.Watson, et al),
ENGLISH MECHANIC, 80:160, 1904

Bedford Canal, England. A repeat of the 1870 experiment.

"A train of empty turf-boats had just entered the Canal from the river Ouse, and was about proceeding to Ramsey. I arranged with the captain to place the shallowest boat last in the train, and to take me on to Welney Bridge, a distance of six miles. A good telescope was then fixed on the lowest part of the stern of the last boat. The sluice gate of the Old Bedford Bridge was 5ft. 8in. high, the turf-boat moored there was 2ft. 6in. high, and the notice board was 6ft. 6in. from the water.

The sun was shining strongly upon them in the direction of the south-southwest; the air was exceedingly still and clear, and the surface of the water smooth as a molten mirror, so that everything was favourable for observation. At 1.15 p.m. the train started for Welney. As the boats gradually receded, the sluice gate, the turf-boat and the notice board continued to be visible to the naked eye for about four miles. When the sluice gate and the turf-boat (being of a dark colour) became somewhat indistinct, the notice board (which was white) was still plainly visible, and remained so to the end of six miles. But on looking through the telescope all the objects were distinctly visible throughout the whole distance. On reaching Welney Bridge I made very careful and repeated observations, and finding several men upon the banks of the canal, I called them to look through the telescope. They all saw distinctly the white notice board, the sluice gate, and the black turf-boat moored near them.

Now, as the telescope was 18in. above the water, The line of sight would touch the horizon at one mile and a half away (if the surface were convex). The curvature of the remaining four miles and a half would be 13ft. 6in. Hence the turf-boat should have been 11ft., the top of the sluice gate 7ft. 10in., and the bottom of the notice board 7ft. below the horizon.

My recent experiment affords undeniable proof of the Earth's unglobularity, because it rests not on transitory vision; but my proof remains printed on the negative of the photograph which Mr.Clifton took for me, and in my presence, on behalf of J.H.Dallmeyer, Ltd.

A photograph can not 'imagine' nor lie!".
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Re: please explain the FE theory to me
« Reply #31 on: December 28, 2009, 03:13:20 PM »
Bishop you are the one who always brings up aristotle. I like how you always deflect and can't seem to find any RE peer reviewed articles. Give me both FE and RE from science or nature or other big name journals. Those are reputable.

A reference from The English Mechanic, a scientific journal:

"The Flat Earth: another Bedford Canal experiment" (Bernard H.Watson, et al),
ENGLISH MECHANIC, 80:160, 1904

Bedford Canal, England. A repeat of the 1870 experiment.

"A train of empty turf-boats had just entered the Canal from the river Ouse, and was about proceeding to Ramsey. I arranged with the captain to place the shallowest boat last in the train, and to take me on to Welney Bridge, a distance of six miles. A good telescope was then fixed on the lowest part of the stern of the last boat. The sluice gate of the Old Bedford Bridge was 5ft. 8in. high, the turf-boat moored there was 2ft. 6in. high, and the notice board was 6ft. 6in. from the water.

The sun was shining strongly upon them in the direction of the south-southwest; the air was exceedingly still and clear, and the surface of the water smooth as a molten mirror, so that everything was favourable for observation. At 1.15 p.m. the train started for Welney. As the boats gradually receded, the sluice gate, the turf-boat and the notice board continued to be visible to the naked eye for about four miles. When the sluice gate and the turf-boat (being of a dark colour) became somewhat indistinct, the notice board (which was white) was still plainly visible, and remained so to the end of six miles. But on looking through the telescope all the objects were distinctly visible throughout the whole distance. On reaching Welney Bridge I made very careful and repeated observations, and finding several men upon the banks of the canal, I called them to look through the telescope. They all saw distinctly the white notice board, the sluice gate, and the black turf-boat moored near them.

Now, as the telescope was 18in. above the water, The line of sight would touch the horizon at one mile and a half away (if the surface were convex). The curvature of the remaining four miles and a half would be 13ft. 6in. Hence the turf-boat should have been 11ft., the top of the sluice gate 7ft. 10in., and the bottom of the notice board 7ft. below the horizon.

My recent experiment affords undeniable proof of the Earth's unglobularity, because it rests not on transitory vision; but my proof remains printed on the negative of the photograph which Mr.Clifton took for me, and in my presence, on behalf of J.H.Dallmeyer, Ltd.

A photograph can not 'imagine' nor lie!".


I don't see a photograph anywhere in that post.
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
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Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
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It is just the way it is, you understanding it doesn't concern me.

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Tom Bishop

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Re: please explain the FE theory to me
« Reply #32 on: December 28, 2009, 03:14:51 PM »
I don't see a photograph anywhere in that post.

That would be because it's not in the post. It's archived in a library.

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markjo

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Re: please explain the FE theory to me
« Reply #33 on: December 28, 2009, 03:18:57 PM »
I don't see a photograph anywhere in that post.

That would be because it's not in the post. It's archived in a library.

Sorry, I thought that you were going to provide some photographic evidence.  Never mind.
Science is what happens when preconception meets verification.
Quote from: Robosteve
Besides, perhaps FET is a conspiracy too.
Quote from: bullhorn
It is just the way it is, you understanding it doesn't concern me.

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Tom Bishop

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Re: please explain the FE theory to me
« Reply #34 on: December 28, 2009, 03:25:20 PM »
Sorry, I thought that you were going to provide some photographic evidence.  Never mind.

You know where to find it. It's available at the Library of Congress. We've been over this.

Re: please explain the FE theory to me
« Reply #35 on: December 28, 2009, 03:29:29 PM »
Some of us don't have access. How do we know you aren't lying? You could be in on the conspiracy.

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Tom Bishop

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Re: please explain the FE theory to me
« Reply #36 on: December 28, 2009, 03:57:33 PM »
Some of us don't have access. How do we know you aren't lying? You could be in on the conspiracy.

If you want it, get it. Otherwise shove off.

Re: please explain the FE theory to me
« Reply #37 on: December 28, 2009, 04:30:36 PM »
Using that attitude, why don't you make me a map that fits with flight times. Otherwise shove off.


Also that's one article. If I really have to, I will give you peer reviewed articles (from now, with modern technology) of the earth being round.

Re: please explain the FE theory to me
« Reply #38 on: January 02, 2010, 08:44:29 PM »
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I am being hypothetical here with the book. I promise you if you want an actual book I will find it. I am talking about say a geology textbook or something to that effect that has like 5000 different proofs of the earth being round from evidence and theory.

Doesn't exist.



Dr Karl Kruszelnicki does have a chapter in his book 'Never Mind the Bullocks: Here's the Science, titled Flat Earth: The Truth is on the Horizon which explains how the Earth cannot be flat in many ways. Also, there is a book called How We Learned the Earth is Round, by Patricia Lauber Perhaps, Tom, you should do a bit more research and spend more time in finding these books, look some up in Google books search, I'm sure you will find plenty.
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